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Air cooler or Liquid cooler for 9800x3d?

If anything it's the GPU that could impact the CPU temps with big tower cooler.
 
After my personal experience with both types of coolers, I almost always prefer a good air cooler over a good AIO because it is normally more silent (less noise sources) and generally more durable over the years. Also, a couple of very good coolers, even budget ones, are comparable to 240 and 280 AIOs.

So IMHO, go with Air. Unless the machine is for production purposes and will fully load up all cores over a long period, like many hrs. Think scientific purposes and large computes over time. Then a large AIO of 360 or 420 would be my choice of weapon, because noise is not the top priority anymore, it's the avoidance of thermal throttling, totally or for as long as possible.
 
I only give up 2-3c by going from a 360 to my EVO with T30s.
 
OP is in Greece, he ain't paying the tariffs.

OP - check Artic's page for refurbished AIO's. You can get LF III 420 for €38 plus €6 for shipping.

Only problem is... your case won't support it.

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my case?
 
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Unless you're also changing your case any bigger AIO won't fit in it.
 
I have phanteks g500a now.
 
It depend of so many things.

Do you plan to OC your ram to it's limit? If yes I'd go with and AIO because it will be easier to cool your ram with a fan.

Will you pair it with a big 300W++ GPU? You may have better GPU temps with an AIO, big tower cooler that are too close to the card can impact the GPU cooling.

Truth is 9800X3D's are very easy to cool, especially if you plan to undervolt. Mine dont even reach 50°C in games. It reach 58-60°C in cinebench. Keep in mind that my chip is undervolted tho.

If you chose a tower, I'd go with something cheap and not too big like something Thermalright, or anything that fit your esthetic as long as it's not too big. You can go big if you wish, it's just annoying for no real benefits IMO.

GL with your build! Enjoy!
Your points here are exactly why I'm considering an AIO for the same CPU even though it runs pretty cool under load. I've got a 4080S in the case with it that pulls 300W regularly, and it's just hard to get air circulating with that big fat heatsink in the way.

Second, the gpu fans themselves direct the gpu heat down at the base of the case where that warm air gets removed by the lower crossbreeze caused from front and rear fan.
I'm pretty sure the GPU fans pull air from the bottom of the case against the heatsink, leading to air venting out the sides of the GPU heatsink?
 
I have phanteks g500a now.
So you have a wide varaity of choices regarding (CPU) cooling:

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max a 420 AIO, or an up to 185 mm high air cooler in that PC case.

My choise would be an Arctic Liquid Freezer III 420, but feel free to disagree ;) .
 
Hello,I'm thinking to buy Be quite dark rock elite for air cooler

ASUS TUF GAMING LC II 360 ARGB,CORSAIR NAUTILUS 360 RS ARGB,Arctic Liquid Freezer III 420 or 360,Be Quiet Pure Loop 2 or pure loop 2 fx for liquid cooler.Maybe some overclock but nothing crazy.The usage of pc is gaming.

be quiet! Pure Rock Pro 3

Deepcool AG620
https://www.skroutz.gr/c/673/cpu-fans/m/7852/Deepcool.html?keyphrase=ag620
 
Remember curve shaper?

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Medium temperature (“1T gaming workloads”) = 50°C

What is to gain to get below 50c ?
Does the cpu clock a "bin" higher during gaming?

fyi:
With a G2, 3x fans, frame and ptm i can get my 9800x3d to 90c+ if i really let it loose and give it something substantial to digest.

So i don´t know how happy one can truly get choosing one of those smaller suggested air coolers...
 
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How many of those pipes on the G2 are covering the IHS?

Little coolers are ok, can handle my 9900X at 250w.

What are you doing to see 90c on your X3D, and what kind of wattage is it putting out at 90c?
 
How many of those pipes on the G2 are covering the IHS?

Little coolers are ok, can handle my 9900X at 250w.

What are you doing to see 90c on your X3D, and what kind of wattage is it putting out at 90c?
And then shrimpy comes along and slaps faces with an unmounted FX/Opteron HeatPipe cooler on an 14900K lol.

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So you have a wide varaity of choices regarding (CPU) cooling:

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max a 420 AIO, or an up to 185 mm high air cooler in that PC case.

My choise would be an Arctic Liquid Freezer III 420, but feel free to disagree ;) .
I agree but black version costs 175 euros.That's why i'm thinking Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420,Unless if i buy a white Arctic Liquid Freezer III 420 for 100euros.
 
Air cooler or Liquid cooler for 9800x3d?
Noctua NH-U12A chromax.black
 
Phanteks G500A? Great, welcome to the club. :D Well then, you have a lot of flexibility if you want to go with an AIO.

My reasoning for choosing an AIO is the following: Price to performance of course, I paid like 80 euros with shipping for the Arctic Freezer, also mounting at the top of the case meant that I didn't need extra fans.
Whereas if I had chosen a cheaper air cooler meant that I also would've needed 3 extra fans for the top of the case as exhaust, so in the end the final price would've been similar.
And as you mentioned, possible compatibility issues with the RAM. I didn't like being constrained.

With the Kingston Fury RAM the NH-D15's front fan will have to sit higher, on top of the RAM.
The be quiet! cooler will have similar issues.

I wonder when will they make a D15S G2. Oh well. The original is pretty good, if someone wants a NH-D15 with no clearance problems, buy that
 
Hello,I'm thinking to buy Be quite dark rock elite for air cooler

ASUS TUF GAMING LC II 360 ARGB,CORSAIR NAUTILUS 360 RS ARGB,Arctic Liquid Freezer III 420 or 360,Be Quiet Pure Loop 2 or pure loop 2 fx for liquid cooler.Maybe some overclock but nothing crazy.The usage of pc is gaming.


Thermalright PA 120SE
 
It's your choice, find what you like, within your budget, otherwise you can and will end up with a lot of silly suggestions usually based on what other people like.
 
9800X3D is so easy to cool at stock settings, litterally anything will work
 
Go for your preferred aesthetic and value. That said I would like to highlight the amazing LE720 by Deepcool for the cost of 1x Corsair fan you get a 360 AIO with copper, RGB and 3 fans at $50 USD. I use this on my friends build and OC'd at -25 PBO he sees 45 idle / 55-65 gaming / 75-85 prime95 smallest ftt run at 5.1-5.2ghz effective clocks.


Deleted my old post to clarify :)
 
What about Arctic 360 iii pro?Arctic ii 420mm is available for 70 euros.

70 euros is insanely good price if it will fit in your case, damn
 
The problem is actually in AMD's design. Why hasn't AMD fixed the chiplets issue which causes dramatically worsened thermal efficiency for any cooling solution?

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^^^ Throttle fest here.

95°C is also a stupid temperature target, when Intel allows 115°C. :banghead:


 
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Just use a plain cheap Arctic Freezer 36 Air cooler in combination with the included contact frame and MX-6 paste. This thing is built for LGA1700.

This is the performance to be expected:
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Technotice even tried with unlimited power settings on the 14900K (this was obviously before degradation of the higher end Intel CPUs). Worked flawlessly on air with CB in MC mode. The performance is in the 360 AIO range (but with slightly better fans on it, the original Arctic P12 PWMs which they tested it later on in the video performed somewhere between 240 and 360 AIOs). I bought one of those, and it is really that good. For example, at 300W (which is insane nowadays) the i9 won't throttle in a Cinebench Multicore run, all cores perform and the temps are below 90 Celsius.

The Freezer 36 is also dead quiet, even at high loads. In terms of noise-normalized performance, it's mostly leading the charts vs other air coolers. The other unique thing about this is that it generates a stiff airflow from front to back, which is very good to transport the heat to the back, but because of that rigid air tunneling only minor amounts of air gets lost to cool down VRMs and the socket outer area (which most air coolers tend to somewhat cool down too because more air gets lost on the way). So in this regard it is comparable to an AIO, too ;)

Also, just to make sure, most reviews don't test the Freezer 36 with the included contact frame and mx-6 like in the video above, so be prepared to see some mediocre reviews. But trust me, this thing flies on LGA 1700. I bought mine for approx $22 new from Amazon a yr ago - I can strongly recommend that to anyone on LGA1700. BUT: Do not buy for AM5, the performance is not that good there (better use the Thermalright air coolers or some budget AIO like the Freezer III variants for most bang of your buck cooling with AMD).
Just because it works on a 14900k doesn't mean it will work on a 9800x 3d. Any air cooler can cool upwards of 300 watts on a 14900k cause it's a big die. The 9800x 3d is harder to manage - most coolers will struggle to keep a 9800x 3d cool at stock in a cinebench run @ 150 watts.
 
300w isn't that insane either, my 12 core with PBO will do a bit over 250. I am sure a 9950X could hit a lot closer.

If you use static clocks, 300w would be very easy to achieve.

I wouldn't use that cooler on AM5.
 
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