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Arctic Liquid Freezer III Pro 280 A-RGB & 420 A-RGB CPU Coolers Now Available

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High-end cooling meets an impressive variety of colours: Addressable LEDs in the fans and pump head enable fully customizable lighting to suit personal taste. Thanks to compatibility with common mainboard standards and ARCTIC's recommended software SignalRGB, colors and effects can be easily controlled and perfectly matched to the entire setup. The new 280 and 420 A-RGB variants as well as the existing models of the Liquid Freezer III Pro series are available in the ARCTIC Webshop with a "Payback" discount. The discount is automatically applied in the shopping cart. Also, available on Amazon, eBay and selected partners.



Pricing (Arctic Webshop Pricing)
  • Liquid Freezer III Pro 420 A-RGB: €105.99
  • Liquid Freezer III Pro 420 A-RGB White: €116.49
  • Liquid Freezer III Pro 280 A-RGB: €89.90

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While I'm happy to finally see the 420/280 versions, they're still a no buy until they have a non contact frame mount option available for Intel.

I don't see how it's so hard to just have a "normal" Intel mount.
 
non RBG LF3 is about $100 on amazon, rgb version is 9 bucks more.
 
One of the "pros" (pun intended) is that it's affordable, well it has to be in order to offset the cost of a compatible case which certainly isn't going to be cheap in the case of the 420 variant.

PR move, nothing more, the so-called improvements of the Pro are in Arctic's benefit not the end user's.

The disadvantage the non-Pro had in review results was that it wasn't necessarily at the very top in the brute force/full rpm category. Where it shined was in the noise normalized category (the one that interests end users, even if they don't realize it at first). But for the less informed/less tech savvy demographic, aka the ones that look only at the balls to the wall results, Arctic risked not being among their buying options.

So they went ahead and cobbled up a version that would also perform very well in the full rpm category, thus maximizing the product's chances of being on everyone's short list.

In this regard it's a success, in the noise normalized category however it's pretty much the same as the non-Pro.

The only real change is the Intel contact frame which now has an offset so that it performs better on LGA1851, but not necessarily on LGA1700. It's interesting how they're forcing the use of the contact frame even if on LGA1851 it's not mandatory (practically speaking) like on LGA1700. There is still a minimal bend, but not one that warrants a contact frame.
Well not a poorly designed one such as this, if someone is determined to use this type of accessory they might as well buy something properly designed like the Thermalright one, and then whatever cooler (air or liquid) that has standard mounting. And the performance will be similar to the Pro but with the added benefit of less AIO bulk.

^The takeaway is this:
AMD users rejoice, you basically got more of the same, if it fits in your case it's a valid option.
Intel users look elsewhere, seriously it's one of the worse options, especially for LGA1851 users.
 
One of the "pros" (pun intended) is that it's affordable, well it has to be in order to offset the cost of a compatible case which certainly isn't going to be cheap in the case of the 420 variant.
my LF 2 420 cost me about $200 and a bad mounting bracket.
 
my LF 2 420 cost me about $200 and a bad mounting bracket.
Different conditions back then? :eek:
Nowadays (the first months of this year) the non-Pro without RGB 360 variant for less than $80 (when discounted) was definitely affordable.

For AMD users it is pretty much the default option, thanks to the offset mounting.
In my country at least I've read on some forums about people upgrading from the LF3 to the LF3 Pro, like literally changing the entire AIO just for the fans. The hype is crazy, almost inversely proportional to the size of that coldplate.
 
Different conditions back then? :eek:
Nowadays (the first months of this year) the non-Pro without RGB 360 variant for less than $80 (when discounted) was definitely affordable.

For AMD users it is pretty much the default option, thanks to the offset mounting.
In my country at least I've read on some forums about people upgrading from the LF3 to the LF3 Pro, like literally changing the entire AIO just for the fans. The hype is crazy, almost inversely proportional to the size of that coldplate.
if i have a 2nd box that would use the LF2, I would buy the LF3 Pro.
 
@DeathtoGnomes

It's understandable, vs the LF2 the LF3 is a better product, more over you being an AMD user makes total sense. Now the non-Pro is EOL so it's harder to buy that.

It's interesting to see the progression, in 2024 they basically carried over the rad and fans from the LF2, now the fans got changed. I would've changed something else but there is that.
 
wow is it amazing all the bad mouthing going on. omg the RAD omg THE COLDPLATE. Do you have ANY clue how this stuff works when throwing these rando comments?

This cooler, for the price , is insane, ok wow the fans are noisy at full speed - but they are not if you turn them down. The rad can dissipate easy without high speed on the fans.

Coldplate is not even close to being "bigger = better" so please , stop with all this uninformed bs.

You can buy this cooler at 1/3 the price 5 years ago of a shitty corsair shitty mcrgb cooler. So how is that a problem?

How are you spewing so much hate about a freaking contact frame, for 80$ including an entire cooler is just beyond me. Maybe look at ur favorite brands like corsair and logitech - you get to pay so much for , for even less, so wtf are we even on about?

To me its not really about what is the best , right/wrong. Its about the fact you get a kick ass performance cooler for almost zero money , and people are still crying, its amazing. Yes go buy your 350$ corsair rgb00ler and zip it. If you dont like this its fair, but you cannot argue the fact its a price performance that kills every single other aio, and you pay less than a midtier noctua air cooler, lol.
 
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@DeathtoGnomes

It's understandable, vs the LF2 the LF3 is a better product, more over you being an AMD user makes total sense. Now the non-Pro is EOL so it's harder to buy that.

It's interesting to see the progression, in 2024 they basically carried over the rad and fans from the LF2, now the fans got changed. I would've changed something else but there is that.
yea even the fans i got with mine were pretty flimsy and shitty, they would vibrate while powering on and off. These new fans have higher static pressure than many fans i have seen, so now we just need to figure out how loud they are.
 
@DeathtoGnomes

It's understandable, vs the LF2 the LF3 is a better product, more over you being an AMD user makes total sense. Now the non-Pro is EOL so it's harder to buy that.

It's interesting to see the progression, in 2024 they basically carried over the rad and fans from the LF2, now the fans got changed. I would've changed something else but there is that.
what would you have changed? Let us know. :D

If this came in at some price premium then meeh, but we are talking a cheap ass cooler, and you complain about the old one not being available ......... ? why not just buy the new one that is already cheaper than the old one lol. All these comments just makes zero sense with 1 second of scrutiny.

All the comments keep forgetting we are talking a super price efficient option at fractions of some of its competitors........... why are you comparing to fans where a single fan costs the same as this entire aio ? Is that sensible to you? I wonder why there is not fitted 100$ of cobber in this thing. hmmmm ........

The old 420 fans , I have a customer with a gf that is sound sensitive beyond normal gf sound sensitive. He is playing 5,1 with memory oc and 4,2 cache (on the 280 lf3) 11600k- in hottest of summer days, without a freaking noticeable sound in the room. On the old 280 model. That chip can eazy draw 150/200 watts under pressure, and the cooler doesnt care. So why all this badmouthing ? Its performing absolutely amazing for my ultra sound sensitive customer, in wattages even beyond a 9800x3d in gaming mode ........... its 80$ , and its still not good enough. :D amazing :D
 
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so now we just need to figure out how loud they are.
Quite loud, that's why I said in the beginning that when noise normalized it's super close to the non-Pro.
See here, at 25% PWM it's like the others, but when you increase the rpm it gets progressively louder much faster than most, ending up among the loudest.
You can corroborate the noise results with the temp results:
So at 50% PWM it reaches 46dBA with 1735 rpm.
At 100% PWM it reaches 62 dBA with 3000 rpm.

On AMD for 225W 100% PWM it gets 83.1°C.
For 225W @45dBA it gets 85.8°C.
So 2.7°C difference for making it significantly louder.
If at 1735 rpm it gets to 46 dBA then at 45 dBA it must close to 1700 rpm (between 1650 and 1700 let's say).

On Intel for 250W 100% PWM it gets 77.0°C.
For 250W @45dBA it gets 78.8°C.
So 1.8°C difference for making it significantly louder.
For this example (LGA1700) it doesn't make much sense to make it louder.

Another example:

It definitely hints at changing the fans so that it can look better in the full rpm category (the likely review scenario).
But when noise normalized (which is the likely end user scenario) it's almost the same as the non-Pro.
 
Quite loud, that's why I said in the beginning that when noise normalized it's super close to the non-Pro.
but are those exact same fans as on the 420? I thought they were better fans than what was on the 360s you posted.
 
Quite loud, that's why I said in the beginning that when noise normalized it's super close to the non-Pro.
See here, at 25% PWM it's like the others, but when you increase the rpm it gets progressively louder much faster than most, ending up among the loudest.
You can corroborate the noise results with the temp results:
So at 50% PWM it reaches 46dBA with 1735 rpm.
At 100% PWM it reaches 62 dBA with 3000 rpm.

On AMD for 225W 100% PWM it gets 83.1°C.
For 225W @45dBA it gets 85.8°C.
So 2.7°C difference for making it significantly louder.
If at 1735 rpm it gets to 46 dBA then at 45 dBA it must close to 1700 rpm (between 1650 and 1700 let's say).

On Intel for 250W 100% PWM it gets 77.0°C.
For 250W @45dBA it gets 78.8°C.
So 1.8°C difference for making it significantly louder.
For this example (LGA1700) it doesn't make much sense to make it louder.

Another example:

It definitely hints at changing the fans so that it can look better in the full rpm category (the likely review scenario).
But when noise normalized (which is the likely end user scenario) it's almost the same as the non-Pro.
62dB is screaming loud holy shit, but I am surprised it does so well on intel and much better versus the AMD CPU.
 
Do you have ANY clue how this stuff works when throwing these rando comments?
I do actually.
If other AIOs achieve similar performance when noise normalized despite using a regular thickness radiator then it means there are other parts/areas of the whole which also contribute to performance.
If these other parts of the LF3 would be on par with those on other AIOs then it would have a performance advantage thanks to the thicker rad. Since it doesn't, these other parts are thus deficient.
Coldplate is not even close to being "bigger = better" so please , stop with all this uninformed bs.
Yes it is. That's one reason why the GA II Lite is a such a strong performer.
Here and here.
The small coldplate of the LF3 doesn't even account for the offset. More over it's not square, it's 45x40mm. And that 40mm isn't enough for AMD because it leaves a bit of the IHS uncovered and not enough for Intel because with the offset contact frame it also leaves a bit of the IHS uncovered. A few more milimeters at least on this axis, that's all it took.
what would you have changed? Let us know. :D
The coldplate and radiator. Slightly larger coldplate and thinner radiator. The days of the 14900KS are over, this design approach is obsolete, such a thick rad is probably better for push-pull (with somewhat weaker fans but being dead quiet) but that is beyond the scope of most people.
How are you spewing so much hate about a freaking contact frame, for 80$ including an entire cooler is just beyond me.
It's causing people unnecessary trouble.
ok wow the fans are noisy at full speed - but they are not if you turn them down. The rad can dissipate easy without high speed on the fans.
So what's the point of having noisier fans than before if you're supposed to turn them down?
You can buy this cooler at 1/3 the price 5 years ago of a shitty corsair shitty mcrgb cooler. So how is that a problem?
Yes go buy your 350$ corsair rgb00ler and zip it.
The Nautilus certainly doesn't cost that much, and despite being a bit more expensive it's probably a better alternative for Intel systems.
Although not much reason to buy it when the Montech Hyperflow Silent is pretty much the same thing and cheaper. And at the same price as the GA II Lite the Nautilus is also a worse deal.
So for Intel there are certainly better alternatives than the LF3.
For AMD the GA II Lite is definitely worth considering even though it's slightly more expensive. And others, why not?
its 80$ , and its still not good enough.
I'm not advocating for it to be cheaper, I don't have a problem with the price but with its design.
The way you're spinning it you want every flaw to be downplayed/forgiven just because it's cheap.
Also making it seem like Arctic is doing everyone a favor by selling it cheaper than what it would be worth. Yes I'm sure they're thinning their margins just so that every poor soul can afford an LF3.

^Oh and to wrap this up, since you've given the verdict that what I've said previously is "hate" what exactly would constitute constructive criticism? And while you're at it please also describe what constitutes fanboyism.

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but are those exact same fans as on the 420? I thought they were better fans than what was on the 360s you posted.
No that was an example to show the 360 situation.
I'm expecting the new 140 fans to be louder than the older ones (but quieter than the Max).
There are other clues to help extrapolate.

Here we have the full lineup of the non-Pro compared with the improvised lineup of the Max.
We can see that all of the Max ones are louder (and obviously manage to achieve lower temps), and actually quite close to each other (2dBA max), despite the 240 having two 120 fans and the 420 having three 140 fans.
Well the same is true for the non-Pro, quite close in noise level.
Hence I'm expecting the new 420 Pro to be similar in noise to the 360 Pro.
 
I'm expecting the new 140 fans to be louder than the older ones (but quieter than the Max)
i guess we'll have to wait for the new reviews but i have disagree the 140 fan should be quieter over the rpm range
 
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