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I have a problem. I told my wife I wouldn't buy another upgrade for my computer this year since I bought my 2900XT. However I found a 8800GT 1gig for less than 200 bucks. Iv looked at dozens of benchmarks and I'm not sure which is the better. They seem pretty close with the 8800 pulling ahead in some places.

ATI used to be my team but after they stuck us 2900XT users with the 3870 for half the price
within just a few months Im kinda sore. The 1900 series was around for at least a year before the 2000 series. And when the 2000 series came its flagship was 400 bones. Not like the 3870. See where I am coming from?

So now that you have some background here are my questions.

1. Do you guys think the 8800GTs will have a longer lifespan than the 2900s? Also how are the drivers for the 8800GT? Can it still get better or are the capped out?

2. After years of playing battlefield on ATI and Nvidia are the shadows still fixed on the Nvidia? I'm asking because ATIs shadows look like crap on that engine.

3. Is the performance gain of the 8800GT over the 2900XT worth a month of bitching and "alone time" :shadedshu

Any sugestions are welcome! :respect:
 
3. Is the performance gain of the 8800GT over the 2900 worth a month of bitching and "alone time" :shadedshu

I personally wouldn't put my computer before my family, so I'd say don't get it if it will annoy/upset your wife.
 
You could always return the 2900XT for a refund (if possible) and use the $ towards a better card... =) You could even site the release of the 3870 so soon after your purchase as your reason for a refund and if you bitch enuff they'll usually give in and let you either extange it or give oyu a refund. As to ATI vs. nVidia look at it like this; AMD realizes that they will remain in 2nd place with CPU performance for the near future, so they are putting more effort towards their graphics line. Another thing to look at is that ATI is coming to the table with newer stuff faster than nVidia as far as features go, such as dual GPU cards and extra stuff in the DX10 cards that Ms decided to support in DX10.1
 
I appreciate the advice Jimmy. I do. No sarcasm. Its just Iv been married for over 10 years and have two kids. I would never but something like this before my family. However you dont know my wife. She doesn't need an excuse to be pissed off at me. She just needs oxygen. Its just how much Im willing to deal with. Im guessing a good two weeks on this one.
 
You could always return the 2900XT for a refund (if possible) and use the $ towards a better card... =) You could even site the release of the 3870 so soon after your purchase as your reason for a refund and if you bitch enuff they'll usually give in and let you either extange it or give oyu a refund. As to ATI vs. nVidia look at it like this; AMD realizes that they will remain in 2nd place with CPU performance for the near future, so they are putting more effort towards their graphics line. Another thing to look at is that ATI is coming to the table with newer stuff faster than nVidia as far as features go, such as dual GPU cards and extra stuff in the DX10 cards that Ms decided to support in DX10.1

Well Im going to sell my 2900 to buy the 8800. I figured I can still get 200+ for the 2900 and thats enough for the 8800. But is the 8800 worth the trouble?
 
Lol, i feel your pain.
unless you are going to make an upgrade to an 8800gts or something of the like, i wouldnt recommend that you upgrade your card in such small increments. If you do, here in 2 months that card will be obsolete, etc, etc...
 
I thought the 8800gts was slower than the GT. Its specs are slower. Correct?
 
Here was the answer for my wife:

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I don't get my upgrade until she get's hers :D
 
Well Im going to sell my 2900 to buy the 8800. I figured I can still get 200+ for the 2900 and thats enough for the 8800. But is the 8800 worth the trouble?

I know what you mean about her flipping out and shit... If you sell the old and buy the new, give her the extra $ or buy her something with the extra $. =) if she still bitches, return what you bought her to the store and give the $ to your kids instead. =P
 
I thought the 8800gts was slower than the GT. Its specs are slower. Correct?

There's two versions of the GTS. There's the original 340MB one, which is slower, and then there's the new 512MB/1GB version which uses the G92 core and is a bit quicker than the 8800 GT.

Quite confusing really.
 
Well Im going to sell my 2900 to buy the 8800. I figured I can still get 200+ for the 2900 and thats enough for the 8800. But is the 8800 worth the trouble?

8800GT (512mb) VS. 2900xt on Battlefield 2142 (1600x1200)

http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=857&model2=1057&chart=278

If my setup is hitting less then 30fps and the and the new card will keep me well above that mark, I'd be willing to spend 2 weeks in the dog house for that privilege.
 
nooooo don't buy the 8800gt!! the drivers are less than stellar and if you just sell it and buy a hd3870 or 2 for that matter it will smoke that 8800gt in most places, also if you intend to go dual cards nvidia has a long way to go before they can match up with how good ati cards scale together.
 
2900XT is a beast man. IMO, I would say stay with what you have. BTW, Whats max res of the monitor you game on? Anser that and I can give you an even better answer.
 
1600 16:10. However Iv been doing 1450 lately due to frame rate issues.

As for buying the 3870.....well its the whole reason I might leave ATI and go back to Nvidia. Did you read the first post?
 
What kind of frame rate issues? Possible that your card is overheating?
 
nooooo don't buy the 8800gt!! the drivers are less than stellar and if you just sell it and buy a hd3870 or 2 for that matter it will smoke that 8800gt in most places, also if you intend to go dual cards nvidia has a long way to go before they can match up with how good ati cards scale together.

Are you suggesting here that the HD3870 "smokes" the 8800GT?? Not sure also what you mean by "drivers are less than steller", having owned one HIS 3870 and four 8800GT's I can tell you one thing, the driver set for the 3870 is some way behind the 8800GT! :p
 
Naa just less than 35fps in COD4. Shes rock solid. Also according to Uber Noobs link to Toms Hardware the 8800 smokes the 2900

Hey Tatty One the card in your sig is the exact one I am looking at buying for less than 200!!!
 
35 fps?! WIth all eye candy?
 
I have a problem. I told my wife I wouldn't buy another upgrade for my computer this year since I bought my 2900XT. However I found a 8800GT 1gig for less than 200 bucks. Iv looked at dozens of benchmarks and I'm not sure which is the better. They seem pretty close with the 8800 pulling ahead in some places.

ATI used to be my team but after they stuck us 2900XT users with the 3870 for half the price
within just a few months Im kinda sore. The 1900 series was around for at least a year before the 2000 series. And when the 2000 series came its flagship was 400 bones. Not like the 3870. See where I am coming from?

So now that you have some background here are my questions.

1. Do you guys think the 8800GTs will have a longer lifespan than the 2900s? Also how are the drivers for the 8800GT? Can it still get better or are the capped out?

2. After years of playing battlefield on ATI and Nvidia are the shadows still fixed on the Nvidia? I'm asking because ATIs shadows look like crap on that engine.

3. Is the performance gain of the 8800GT over the 2900XT worth a month of bitching and "alone time" :shadedshu

Any sugestions are welcome! :respect:

Man, I go through this situation all of the time. It's never a matter of "putting family first" because money isn't a huge issue for us, but my wife thinks it's a "waste" of money, simply because she doesn't understand the hobby. We've come up with some good compromises. Like, if I can come up with half of the money for something by selling something I already have, she won't give me crap.
 
you know the 2900 can outclock the 3870 right?, actually it can kinda overclock really well :?
 
Naa just less than 35fps in COD4. Shes rock solid. Also according to Uber Noobs link to Toms Hardware the 8800 smokes the 2900

Hey Tatty One the card in your sig is the exact one I am looking at buying for less than 200!!!

I didnt pay anywhere near that for the 2 of mine together.......;)
 
35 fps?! WIth all eye candy?
Of course thats with everything maxed out. I wouldnt have it any other way. However I like to be at least around 50+ to be ideal.

As for Paulieg comment you sound like me. With my wife its a battle between my computer and my Mustang GT. Money isn't the issue in my case for the most part. I'm not rich but I do well. Its more of a principle thing. I feel like ATI screwed me with the cost of the 2900. Its a great card but for them to release a better GPU in a few months time for half the price is just wrong man. This isnt about money as it is a lack of respect for the customer.
 
I didnt pay anywhere near that for the 2 of mine together.......;)

Is that the 1gig you have there? If so TALK TO ME! How do I acquire one for what you did? :respect:
 
I still say leave everything as is. If you need 50+ fps, turn off AA.
 
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