• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

AVG Update Cripples Windows

mdsx1950

New Member
Joined
Nov 21, 2009
Messages
2,064 (0.39/day)
Location
In a gaming world :D
System Name Knight-X
Processor Intel Core i7-980X [4.2Ghz]
Motherboard ASUS P6T7 WS
Cooling CORSAIR Hydro H70 + 2x CM 2000RPM 120mm LED Fans
Memory Corsair DOMINATOR-GT 12GB (6 x 2GB) DDR3 2000MHz
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon HD6970 2GB CrossFire [PhysX - EVGA GTX260(216SP) 896MB]
Storage 2x Corsair Perf. 512GB | OCZ Colossus 1TB | 2xOCZ Agilities 120GB SSDs
Display(s) Dell UltraSharp™ 3008WFP [2560x1600]
Case Cooler Master HAF-X + NZXT Temp LCD
Audio Device(s) ASUS Xonar D2X | ONKYO HTS9100THX 7.1
Power Supply Silverstone ST1500 1500W [80 PLUS Silver]
Software Windows 7 Ultimate X64 (Build 7600)
Benchmark Scores Heaven 2.0 with Extreme Tessellation at 1080p - 96FPS
Same here, except for me was more like AVG7.5 -> Avast! -> ESET+NOD32. AVG 8 just didn't work for me. Plus, when I get asked what's the best free security suite I always reply MSE or Comodo, but this last one is only if that person has a grudge on Micro$oft...
I can say I'm very happy with my choice. Not going to change it in the near future.

Yeah ESET NOD32 rocks! My PC hasn't had a single virus yet! :rockout: :respect:
 
Joined
Oct 7, 2006
Messages
1,338 (0.21/day)
Processor e8200 3.93mhz@1.264v
Motherboard P5E3 Pro
Cooling Scythe Infinity
Memory 4gb of G.Skill Ripjaw 6-7-7-18@1404 and 1.62v
Video Card(s) HIS 5770 v2 940/1275mhz stock volts
Storage 1TB Hitachi
Display(s) Acer 22" Widescreen LCD
Case Blue Cooler Master Centurion
Audio Device(s) Onboard audio :(, and Klipsch 5.1 Pro Media's
Power Supply 650 Watt BFG
Software Vista 64 Ultimate
I tried the trial on Nod64 once, it did seem good.
 
Joined
May 19, 2009
Messages
1,821 (0.33/day)
Location
Latvia
System Name Personal \\ Work - HP EliteBook 840 G6
Processor 7700X \\ i7-8565U
Motherboard Asrock X670E PG Lightning
Cooling Noctua DH-15
Memory G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Black 32GB 6000MHz CL36 \\ 16GB DDR4-2400
Video Card(s) ASUS RoG Strix 1070 Ti \\ Intel UHD Graphics 620
Storage 2x KC3000 2TB, Samsung 970 EVO 512GB \\ OEM 256GB NVMe SSD
Display(s) BenQ XL2411Z \\ FullHD + 2x HP Z24i external screens via docking station
Case Fractal Design Define Arc Midi R2 with window
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC1150 with Logitech Z533
Power Supply Corsair AX860i
Mouse Logitech G502
Keyboard Corsair K55 RGB PRO
Software Windows 11 \\ Windows 10
It killed my XP installation two years ago.
 

F1reFly

New Member
Joined
Apr 12, 2010
Messages
227 (0.04/day)
Location
Indiana
Processor Phenom 2 965 Black Edition OC
Motherboard MSI G65
Cooling H50 Liquid Cooling
Memory 6 gig DDR3
Video Card(s) GTX 580
Storage Corsair Real SSD c300
Display(s) Sony 40" 3D LED TV
Case Fractal Design-define mini
Audio Device(s) Creative Sigma 3d
Power Supply Tagen 900 watt
Software Windows 7 x64
Linux FTW
i'm curious though, how does anyone truly know for a fact what a false positive is or is not? The best an AV can do is detect 98%, they can never detect 100%, the constant cat and mouse game thing and some AV's catch some that others don't.
its easy to say, oh thats just false positive and is prevalent in P2P,torrents stuff , but malware or not, it must have some shady or poor coding to mimic as such and those kinds of apps i can do without.
 
Last edited:

Easy Rhino

Linux Advocate
Staff member
Joined
Nov 13, 2006
Messages
15,441 (2.43/day)
Location
Mid-Atlantic
System Name Desktop
Processor i5 13600KF
Motherboard AsRock B760M Steel Legend Wifi
Cooling Noctua NH-U9S
Memory 4x 16 Gb Gskill S5 DDR5 @6000
Video Card(s) Gigabyte Gaming OC 6750 XT 12GB
Storage WD_BLACK 4TB SN850x
Display(s) Gigabye M32U
Case Corsair Carbide 400C
Audio Device(s) On Board
Power Supply EVGA Supernova 650 P2
Mouse MX Master 3s
Keyboard Logitech G915 Wireless Clicky
Software The Matrix
Linux FTW
i'm curious though, how does anyone truly know for a fact what a false positive is or is not? The best an AV can do is detect 98%, they can never detect 100%, the constant cat and mouse game thing and some AV's catch some that others don't.
its easy to say, oh thats just false positive and is prevalent in P2P,torrents stuff , but malware or not, it must have some shady or poor coding to mimic as such and those kinds of apps i can do without.

after your hacked ps3 comment, we must be on the same page today. i agree completely. there is a lot of funny stuff in those pirated games. if you read the comments on those sites they all say, "oh, it is a false positive." really? how can this be proved when the virus database only contains a small amount of information on it? i would stay far far away from pirated game.
 

F1reFly

New Member
Joined
Apr 12, 2010
Messages
227 (0.04/day)
Location
Indiana
Processor Phenom 2 965 Black Edition OC
Motherboard MSI G65
Cooling H50 Liquid Cooling
Memory 6 gig DDR3
Video Card(s) GTX 580
Storage Corsair Real SSD c300
Display(s) Sony 40" 3D LED TV
Case Fractal Design-define mini
Audio Device(s) Creative Sigma 3d
Power Supply Tagen 900 watt
Software Windows 7 x64
after your hacked ps3 comment, we must be on the same page today. i agree completely. there is a lot of funny stuff in those pirated games. if you read the comments on those sites they all say, "oh, it is a false positive." really? how can this be proved when the virus database only contains a small amount of information on it? i would stay far far away from pirated game.

Plus doesn't it make sense that malware people would want you to believe their false positives? I mean they test their stuff on sites like Virustotal.com and try to make their code so its as undetectable as possible and as long as they can beat some AV engines, they can say...oh its just false positive. Imagine how gullable some are...considering its the user who is the #1 security wall to break through and its going to be an application/game that they would want and because they want it so bad, they'll believe anything.

I also find it odd that legit applications like CCleaner or FireFox, dl'ed from proper sites are never detected as false positive...doesn't that alone tell people anything? :rolleyes:

Thats what i like about using a Linux VM or partition online...i never have to worry about even a suspicion, especially since i pay bills and do banking online...its never worth the risk imo. Not to say that linux is 100%, but its just far more rare
 

Easy Rhino

Linux Advocate
Staff member
Joined
Nov 13, 2006
Messages
15,441 (2.43/day)
Location
Mid-Atlantic
System Name Desktop
Processor i5 13600KF
Motherboard AsRock B760M Steel Legend Wifi
Cooling Noctua NH-U9S
Memory 4x 16 Gb Gskill S5 DDR5 @6000
Video Card(s) Gigabyte Gaming OC 6750 XT 12GB
Storage WD_BLACK 4TB SN850x
Display(s) Gigabye M32U
Case Corsair Carbide 400C
Audio Device(s) On Board
Power Supply EVGA Supernova 650 P2
Mouse MX Master 3s
Keyboard Logitech G915 Wireless Clicky
Software The Matrix
Plus doesn't it make sense that malware people would want you to believe their false positives? I mean they test their stuff on sites like Virustotal.com and try to make their code so its as undetectable as possible and as long as they can beat some AV engines, they can say...oh its just false positive. Imagine how gullable some are...considering its the user who is the #1 security wall to break through and its going to be an application/game that they would want and because they want it so bad, they'll believe anything.

I also find it odd that legit applications like CCleaner or FireFox, dl'ed from proper sites are never detected as false positive...doesn't that alone tell people anything? :rolleyes:

Thats what i like about using a Linux VM or partition online...i never have to worry about even a suspicion, especially since i pay bills and do banking online...its never worth the risk imo. Not to say that linux is 100%, but its just far more rare

agreed! finally, someone does not think i wear a tinfoil hat because i believe a lot of warez contains trojans and virii :respect:

i will be back to my linux system once i get a few things sold and then will run windows 7 as a vm when WINE does not cut it.
 
Joined
May 7, 2009
Messages
5,392 (0.99/day)
Location
Carrollton, GA
System Name ODIN
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
Motherboard Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite AX V2
Cooling Dark Rock 4
Memory G Skill RipjawsV F4 3600 Mhz C16
Video Card(s) MSI GeForce RTX 3080 Ventus 3X OC LHR
Storage Crucial 2 TB M.2 SSD :: WD Blue M.2 1TB SSD :: 1 TB WD Black VelociRaptor
Display(s) Dell S2716DG 27" 144 Hz G-SYNC
Case Fractal Meshify C
Audio Device(s) Onboard Audio
Power Supply Antec HCP 850 80+ Gold
Mouse Corsair M65
Keyboard Corsair K70 RGB Lux
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
Benchmark Scores I don't benchmark.
I was going to let this all slide, but now I have to say something.

Virus protection is not a cat and mouse thing as the cat wins that fight 99.9% of the time. It is more of a Spy vs. Spy thing. All and I mean all virus protection software systems are reactive programs. When a new virus or security issue that can be addressed by their system is released, the company integrates detection, quarantine, and remove into their software. This is why Virus protection software is the hands down most updated software ever. As such, no can or will offer 100% protection until A.I. is created.

As such, it doesn't really matter what software you use. The real important factors are cost, update efficiency, system resource usage, interface, and additional features. Since NOD32, Avast, AVG, etc. are all free, update 2 or 3 times a week, and are all user friendly, they can only be seperated by resource usage and additional features. I will admit AVG is a bit of a resource hog compared to leaner software like NOD32 and ClamWin, but I pay that price for the additional features and easier interface.

I personally thing a what, 1 day response and fix is damn good for any company. AVG has done a great job isolating the issue and resolving it as quickly as possible. For those who had to use another PC to create a boot disc or thumb drive, sorry for the inconvenience but such is life.

Now Linux is not any more or less secure with your data than Windows. We all know that people don't create viruses for Linux because they are after the largest audience possible. It is not safer because it lives in a better neighborhood so to speak. You want to know why? Banking data, personal information, etc. are not stolen from your computer. It is almost always stolen when being transported from your computer to the server you are sending it. Tricks like phishing, false logon screens, and wireless packet stealing are by far the most used and most effective means to jack someone's personal data. A simple SSL and common sense is a thousand times more effective than "I use Linux cause I am leet". To you I say, you are crazy and you need to learn to spell.

I could go into details about the actually security built into Linux which amounts to some good and some "Windows does the same thing, but it is optional while Linux forces the issue" (Like minimum password requirements) stuff. Linux also has a user base that actually helps with exploit detection and correction.
 
Joined
Apr 21, 2008
Messages
5,250 (0.90/day)
Location
IRAQ-Baghdad
System Name MASTER
Processor Core i7 3930k run at 4.4ghz
Motherboard Asus Rampage IV extreme
Cooling Corsair H100i
Memory 4x4G kingston hyperx beast 2400mhz
Video Card(s) 2X EVGA GTX680
Storage 2X Crusial M4 256g raid0, 1TbWD g, 2x500 WD B
Display(s) Samsung 27' 1080P LED 3D monitior 2ms
Case CoolerMaster Chosmos II
Audio Device(s) Creative sound blaster X-FI Titanum champion,Creative speakers 7.1 T7900
Power Supply Corsair 1200i, Logitch G500 Mouse, headset Corsair vengeance 1500
Software Win7 64bit Ultimate
Benchmark Scores 3d mark 2011: testing
i don't be surprise if i see AVG sell sex movies next year
 
Joined
May 19, 2007
Messages
4,520 (0.73/day)
Location
Perth AU
Processor Intel Core i9 10980XE @ 4.7Ghz 1.2v
Motherboard ASUS Rampage VI Extreme Omega
Cooling EK-Velocity D-RGB, EK-CoolStream PE 360, XSPC TX240 Ultrathin, EK X-RES 140 Revo D5 RGB PWM
Memory G.Skill Trident Z RGB F4-3000C14D 64GB
Video Card(s) Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC WC
Storage M.2 990 Pro 1TB / 10TB WD RED Helium / 3x 860 2TB Evos
Display(s) Samsung Odyssey G7 28"
Case Corsair Obsidian 500D SE Modded
Power Supply Cooler Master V Series 1300W
Software Windows 11
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: Now i know why i was getting a bsod i had to do a system restore to fix it :rolleyes: but cant complain using a mates copy so its free
 
Joined
Mar 11, 2008
Messages
675 (0.11/day)
Location
Hungary / Budapest
System Name Kincsem
Processor AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
Motherboard GIGABYTE X570S AERO G
Cooling Be Quiet Black Rock 4 Pro
Memory HyperX 128GB Fury 4×32GB 3200MHz HX432C16FB3K4/128
Video Card(s) Sapphire AMD RX 7900 XT Pulse
Storage Samsung 970PRO 500GB + Samsung 980PRO 2TB + Adata SX8200 2TB + WD Ultrastar HC550 16TB
Display(s) Acer QHD 27"@144Hz 1ms + UHD 27"@60Hz
Case Cooler Master CM 690 III
Power Supply Seasonic PRIME GOLD 850W
Mouse Logitech G502 Hero
Keyboard HyperX Alloy Elite RGB
Software Windows 10-64
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/4d8n02 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/g46uc
I used AVG 2-3 years ago, to Avast, but now, I have NOD Smart security on my windows
 
Joined
Feb 21, 2008
Messages
4,985 (0.85/day)
Location
Greensboro, NC, USA
System Name Cosmos F1000
Processor i9-9900k
Motherboard Gigabyte Z370XP SLI, BIOS 15a
Cooling Corsair H100i, Panaflo's on case
Memory XPG GAMMIX D30 2x16GB DDR4 3200 CL16
Video Card(s) EVGA RTX 2080 ti
Storage 1TB 960 Pro, 2TB Samsung 850 Pro, 4TB WD Hard Drive
Display(s) ASUS ROG SWIFT PG278Q 27"
Case CM Cosmos 1000
Audio Device(s) logitech 5.1 system (midrange quality)
Power Supply CORSAIR HXi HX1000i 1000watt
Mouse G400s Logitech
Keyboard K65 RGB Corsair Tenkeyless Cherry Red MX
Software Win10 Pro, Win7 x64 Professional
ESET is great with a small footprint but it isn't free. Avast still very good and free. :)
 
Joined
Jul 24, 2009
Messages
1,002 (0.19/day)
Czech made! That explains way too much. Glad I switched from that mess.

Its not like any of those Czech made (Avast!, AVG, NOD) are bad or were bad from beginning. AVG used to be quite nice antivirus few years ago (well maybe more than few.. like 98-99:D). But, quite a lot of ppl from those companies like to see money, a lot of money. And they really dont care that much about quality of SW they produce. Thats why AVG fallen down. Cause they cared more about how much they can squeeze from customers, than caring about quality.

Avast! is free, so maybe they care about quality bit more. :) (free for personal use only ofc, but even that mean something) Btw. if I remember correctly, AVG used to be free too, but its looong time since then.
 
Joined
Jul 20, 2008
Messages
4,016 (0.70/day)
Location
Ohio
System Name Desktop|| Virtual Host 0
Processor Intel Core i5 2500-K @ 4.3ghz || 2x Xeon L5630 (total 8 cores, 16 threads)
Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V || Dell PowerEdge R710 (Intel 5520 chipset)
Cooling Corsair Hydro H100 || Stock hotplug fans and passive heatsinks
Memory 4x4gb Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 || 12x4gb Hynix DDR3 1066 FB-DIMMs
Video Card(s) MSI GTX 760 Gaming Twin Frozr 4GB OC || Don't know, don't care
Storage Hitachi 7K3000 2TB || 6x300gb 15k rpm SAS internal hotswap, 12x3tb Seagate NAS drives in enclosure
Display(s) ViewSonic VA2349S || remote iDRAC KVM console
Case Antec P280 || Dell PowerEdge R710
Audio Device(s) HRT MusicStreamer II+ and Focusrite Scarlett 18i8 || Don't know, don't care
Power Supply SeaSonic X650 Gold || 2x870w hot-swappable
Mouse Logitech G500 || remote iDRAC KVM console
Keyboard Logitech G510 || remote iDRAC KVM console
Software Win7 Ultimate x64 || VMware vSphere 6.0 with vCenter Server 6.0
Benchmark Scores Over 9000 on the scouter
Thanks AVG! You just got the repair shop I work in some more customers!
 

WarEagleAU

Bird of Prey
Joined
Jul 9, 2006
Messages
10,812 (1.67/day)
Location
Gurley, AL
System Name Pandemic 2020
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 "Gen 2" 2600X
Motherboard AsRock X470 Killer Promontory
Cooling CoolerMaster 240 RGB Master Cooler (Newegg Eggxpert)
Memory 32 GB Geil EVO Portenza DDR4 3200 MHz
Video Card(s) ASUS Radeon RX 580 DirectX 12 DUAL-RX580-O8G 8GB 256-Bit GDDR5 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video C
Storage WD 250 M.2, Corsair P500 M.2, OCZ Trion 500, WD Black 1TB, Assorted others.
Display(s) ASUS MG24UQ Gaming Monitor - 23.6" 4K UHD (3840x2160) , IPS, Adaptive Sync, DisplayWidget
Case Fractal Define R6 C
Audio Device(s) Realtek 5.1 Onboard
Power Supply Corsair RMX 850 Platinum PSU (Newegg Eggxpert)
Mouse Razer Death Adder
Keyboard Corsair K95 Mechanical & Corsair K65 Wired, Wireless, Bluetooth)
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
Wow that is crazy!
 
Joined
May 7, 2009
Messages
5,392 (0.99/day)
Location
Carrollton, GA
System Name ODIN
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
Motherboard Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite AX V2
Cooling Dark Rock 4
Memory G Skill RipjawsV F4 3600 Mhz C16
Video Card(s) MSI GeForce RTX 3080 Ventus 3X OC LHR
Storage Crucial 2 TB M.2 SSD :: WD Blue M.2 1TB SSD :: 1 TB WD Black VelociRaptor
Display(s) Dell S2716DG 27" 144 Hz G-SYNC
Case Fractal Meshify C
Audio Device(s) Onboard Audio
Power Supply Antec HCP 850 80+ Gold
Mouse Corsair M65
Keyboard Corsair K70 RGB Lux
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
Benchmark Scores I don't benchmark.
Its not like any of those Czech made (Avast!, AVG, NOD) are bad or were bad from beginning. AVG used to be quite nice antivirus few years ago (well maybe more than few.. like 98-99:D). But, quite a lot of ppl from those companies like to see money, a lot of money. And they really dont care that much about quality of SW they produce. Thats why AVG fallen down. Cause they cared more about how much they can squeeze from customers, than caring about quality.

Avast! is free, so maybe they care about quality bit more. :) (free for personal use only ofc, but even that mean something) Btw. if I remember correctly, AVG used to be free too, but its looong time since then.

I see you are smoking the good shiznit. AVG is still free.

Free AVG Security 2011

Kids, just say NO!
 
Joined
Jun 22, 2010
Messages
525 (0.10/day)
Location
Portsmouth,UK
System Name DESKTOP-DFEPB9I :D
Processor Ryzen 7 5800X @ 4.5GHz all cores full time, 1.225V
Motherboard ROG Strix B550 E - gaming
Cooling Silverstone Permafrost 240mm Radiator
Memory 32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro 3600MHz (4x8GB)
Video Card(s) Zotac RTX 3080 Trinity
Storage Primary: Samsung Evo 970 500GB,Secondary: Samsung Evo 970 500GB + Samsung Evo 850 250GB
Display(s) Gigabyte G27Q 27" 1440p 144Hz 1ms IPS, FreeSync Premium + Gsync
Case Antec DP502 FLUX
Audio Device(s) Asus Supreme FX on board
Power Supply Corsair RM750W (2019)
Mouse Corsair M65 Pro RGB
Keyboard Corsair K70 V2 Cherry MX Brown
Software Windows10 Pro x64
hanks AVG! You just got the repair shop I work in some more customers!

Haha haha ::laugh:

I can't stand Avast's UI

Sorry,but are you talking about that shitty Winamp skin like of Avast! before version 5?If not I do very much disagree,because I think Avast! v5 UI is smooth and sexy.
 
Last edited:

F1reFly

New Member
Joined
Apr 12, 2010
Messages
227 (0.04/day)
Location
Indiana
Processor Phenom 2 965 Black Edition OC
Motherboard MSI G65
Cooling H50 Liquid Cooling
Memory 6 gig DDR3
Video Card(s) GTX 580
Storage Corsair Real SSD c300
Display(s) Sony 40" 3D LED TV
Case Fractal Design-define mini
Audio Device(s) Creative Sigma 3d
Power Supply Tagen 900 watt
Software Windows 7 x64
We all know that people don't create viruses for Linux because they are after the largest audience possible.

that quote said everything, It is why some of us use Linux.:rolleyes: Security has nothing to do with anything as it is about prevention. The user is the #1 security leak of any system and because Linux is Linux, we don't really have to worry nearly as much about Malware leaks into the system.
Phishing scams ..etc are prevented from common sense..thats a human exploit, not an OS exploit. malware like "blue pill" is a good example of why you can't rely completely on your AV product and adding Windows OS on top of it all only adds insult to the injury due to its massive userbase.
 

mdsx1950

New Member
Joined
Nov 21, 2009
Messages
2,064 (0.39/day)
Location
In a gaming world :D
System Name Knight-X
Processor Intel Core i7-980X [4.2Ghz]
Motherboard ASUS P6T7 WS
Cooling CORSAIR Hydro H70 + 2x CM 2000RPM 120mm LED Fans
Memory Corsair DOMINATOR-GT 12GB (6 x 2GB) DDR3 2000MHz
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon HD6970 2GB CrossFire [PhysX - EVGA GTX260(216SP) 896MB]
Storage 2x Corsair Perf. 512GB | OCZ Colossus 1TB | 2xOCZ Agilities 120GB SSDs
Display(s) Dell UltraSharp™ 3008WFP [2560x1600]
Case Cooler Master HAF-X + NZXT Temp LCD
Audio Device(s) ASUS Xonar D2X | ONKYO HTS9100THX 7.1
Power Supply Silverstone ST1500 1500W [80 PLUS Silver]
Software Windows 7 Ultimate X64 (Build 7600)
Benchmark Scores Heaven 2.0 with Extreme Tessellation at 1080p - 96FPS
I was going to let this all slide, but now I have to say something.

Virus protection is not a cat and mouse thing as the cat wins that fight 99.9% of the time. It is more of a Spy vs. Spy thing. All and I mean all virus protection software systems are reactive programs. When a new virus or security issue that can be addressed by their system is released, the company integrates detection, quarantine, and remove into their software. This is why Virus protection software is the hands down most updated software ever. As such, no can or will offer 100% protection until A.I. is created.

As such, it doesn't really matter what software you use. The real important factors are cost, update efficiency, system resource usage, interface, and additional features. Since NOD32, Avast, AVG, etc. are all free, update 2 or 3 times a week, and are all user friendly, they can only be seperated by resource usage and additional features. I will admit AVG is a bit of a resource hog compared to leaner software like NOD32 and ClamWin, but I pay that price for the additional features and easier interface.

I personally thing a what, 1 day response and fix is damn good for any company. AVG has done a great job isolating the issue and resolving it as quickly as possible. For those who had to use another PC to create a boot disc or thumb drive, sorry for the inconvenience but such is life.

Now Linux is not any more or less secure with your data than Windows. We all know that people don't create viruses for Linux because they are after the largest audience possible. It is not safer because it lives in a better neighborhood so to speak. You want to know why? Banking data, personal information, etc. are not stolen from your computer. It is almost always stolen when being transported from your computer to the server you are sending it. Tricks like phishing, false logon screens, and wireless packet stealing are by far the most used and most effective means to jack someone's personal data. A simple SSL and common sense is a thousand times more effective than "I use Linux cause I am leet". To you I say, you are crazy and you need to learn to spell.

I could go into details about the actually security built into Linux which amounts to some good and some "Windows does the same thing, but it is optional while Linux forces the issue" (Like minimum password requirements) stuff. Linux also has a user base that actually helps with exploit detection and correction.

I agree with your post except the part where you've mentioned the ESET NOD32 is free. It's ranked 2nd best paid AV out there. :rockout:
 

araditus

New Member
Joined
Feb 22, 2009
Messages
172 (0.03/day)
Location
Oklahoma
I havent used any form of AV in over 7 years now, and I never have had a virus, I just practice smart surfing techniques and have 3 bogus email accounts to sign up for things (except for TPU of course!) . :) All my family has AV and they are asking me to fix their stuff all the time.
 
Joined
May 7, 2009
Messages
5,392 (0.99/day)
Location
Carrollton, GA
System Name ODIN
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
Motherboard Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite AX V2
Cooling Dark Rock 4
Memory G Skill RipjawsV F4 3600 Mhz C16
Video Card(s) MSI GeForce RTX 3080 Ventus 3X OC LHR
Storage Crucial 2 TB M.2 SSD :: WD Blue M.2 1TB SSD :: 1 TB WD Black VelociRaptor
Display(s) Dell S2716DG 27" 144 Hz G-SYNC
Case Fractal Meshify C
Audio Device(s) Onboard Audio
Power Supply Antec HCP 850 80+ Gold
Mouse Corsair M65
Keyboard Corsair K70 RGB Lux
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
Benchmark Scores I don't benchmark.
I missed that one. Though, another thing is.. how good it works? Is it same version that caused BSOD?

I have been using AVG on my machines for 4 years now with the break down yesterday (note that was resolved in approx. 5 minutes) was the first time it has every done anything other than its job. So I am going to go with it being very stable. I just checked and I just noticed that it's memory usage has gone way down since I lasted looked at its processes a few months back. Currently only using about 30 MB of RAM to run in the background.

I agree with your post except the part where you've mentioned the ESET NOD32 is free. It's ranked 2nd best paid AV out there. :rockout:

And I stand corrected. NOD32 is not free for Windows. The Beta is still free to use and fully functional for Linux Distros.....for now.

I havent used any form of AV in over 7 years now, and I never have had a virus, I just practice smart surfing techniques and have 3 bogus email accounts to sign up for things (except for TPU of course!) . :) All my family has AV and they are asking me to fix their stuff all the time.

That is just the difference between a computer user and a power user. Your family doesn't have a clue what they are really doing. I doubt it is even virus and malware breaking stuff. More likely to be the 12 search bars they installed to play their Bejeweled and Zuma overloading their PC with ads.

You really should get some AV. Lets just say not all viruses are out to break your system. That is a myth.
 
Joined
Jun 16, 2008
Messages
3,175 (0.55/day)
Location
Brockport, NY
System Name Is rly gud
Processor Intel Core i5 11600kf
Motherboard Asus Prime Z590-V ATX
Memory (48GB total) 16GB (2x8GB) Crucial Ballistix Sport 3000MHZ and G. Skill Ripjaws 32GB 3200MHZ (2x16GB)
Video Card(s) GIGABYTE RTX 3060 12GB
Storage 1TB MSI Spatium M370 NVMe M.2 SSD
Display(s) 32" Viewsonic 4k, 34" Samsung 3440x1440, XP Pen Creative Pro 13.3
Power Supply EVGA 600 80+ Gold
VR HMD Meta Quest Pro, Tundra Trackers
Software Windows 10
Wow. I've never had it prevent booting, but it has caused problems with me before. Glad I stopped using it.
 
Joined
Dec 8, 2008
Messages
1,334 (0.24/day)
I havent used any form of AV in over 7 years now, and I never have had a virus, I just practice smart surfing techniques and have 3 bogus email accounts to sign up for things (except for TPU of course!) . :) All my family has AV and they are asking me to fix their stuff all the time.

No AV -> no way to know if there's virus/malware ->"I never had a virus in years"
 

Mussels

Freshwater Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 6, 2004
Messages
58,413 (8.19/day)
Location
Oystralia
System Name Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s) Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s) Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s) Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores Nyooom.
No AV -> no way to know if there's virus/malware ->"I never had a virus in years"

nah baby we dont need a condom, i've never been tested for STD's so i'm obviously clean!
 
Top