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Ladies and gents....


OP seems to have left the building :)
 

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of course a GPU upgrade will make a diff.

but i wasnt speaking of GPU upgrades, i was speaking of CPU upgrades.

I am just reinforcing the point that it makes no difference to change CPU.
 
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Hence my original comment to just buy a graphics card that can play games well.
that's what i imply since the beginning ... ;)
 
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So how did you make those numbers up? Completely dependent on game there is no way you can say something will be 20% slower with literally no source based off of cache.

Here is the pentium G3258 vs the 4770K with and without overclocking. Notice how it makes no difference.

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/6...niversary-cpu-gaming-performance/index10.html

It depends on the game. In some (or even most) games it makes no difference. But in Hitman the performance of the G3258 tanks, at least according to the benchmarks in the linked article.
 
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It depends on the game. In some (or even most) games it makes no difference. But in Hitman the performance of the G3258 tanks, at least according to the benchmarks in the linked article.
which is exactly what we debated about.

do people read previous post in a thread before posting? specially when the thread has only 2 pages ;) (tho you do add another + to the "current CPU is enough" ... even if i suspect the GPU would also be enough, for what the OP ask )
also i did mention CPU upgrade help with minimal fps, more specifically going from 2 to 4 core in that review it seems ... tho i doubt the impact would be the same versus a HT enabled i3 or a i5 (same gen)

Ladies and gents....


OP seems to have left the building :)
nonetheless ... feels like talking in the void :laugh:
 
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Why would the OP come back................
 
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I am really disappointed in everybody. Most of you said that the GeForce GTX 950 Ti is not good for gaming, but most have missed the fact that THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A GTX 950 Ti. Maybe a GTX 950.
Regardless I do agree that the i3 is a pretty capable little cpu. You should change your gpu to a model that your power supply can handle.

Ha ha- yeah just saw that - of course I was thinking of the lowly 950 and an article I read about Nvidia releasing a 950 Ti - I think on Kitguru.
Too much coffee. Too little sleep.

Anyway good eye.

And where did you go OP?
 

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Our combined genius scared him off. Mine did anyway. It happens.
 
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GO look at the second hand market, you can get like a i7 2600K and mobo for like $200, no need to spend mega $$$ on new shit when old shit will do just as good.
 
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So how did you make those numbers up? Completely dependent on game there is no way you can say something will be 20% slower with literally no source based off of cache.

Here is the pentium G3258 vs the 4770K with and without overclocking. Notice how it makes no difference.

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/6...niversary-cpu-gaming-performance/index10.html

while i "kind" of made them up from past experience.
so , not wanting to be a "Troll" ...
i went through the effort of using the GTAV benchmark to compare a 4790K (4589Mhz, 2400ddr3) 4Cores,HTon vs 2Cores,HTon ( not an exact comparsion because, I have SLI gtx980's meaning 8X pcie, and with the i3-6300 it would be OC to 4560, and ddr4 3040ddr4, pcie 16x...)
in any case, the numbers are from the log file GTAV benchmark, all veryhigh, EXCEPT shadows high, and all advanced graphics props on, and distance detail full (these settings also allow 4k60p gtx980SLI)

TL;DR ... roughly 20% reduction in fps using a 2c/4t core 4790k, vs a 4c/8t core 4790k... using a gtx980. at 1080p on acer xb270hu.



2 cores HTon... 4790K 4589Mhz (2 cores turned off in BIOS)

=== SYSTEM ===
Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200)
DX Feature Level: 11.0
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz (4 CPUs), ~4.0GHz
16384MB RAM

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980, 4203MB, Driver Version 365.19
Graphics Card Vendor Id 0x10de with Device ID 0x13c0


=== SETTINGS ===
Display: 1920x1080 (FullScreen) @ 144Hz VSync OFF
Tessellation: 3
LodScale: 1.000000
PedLodBias: 0.200000
VehicleLodBias: 0.000000
ShadowQuality: 2
ReflectionQuality: 2
ReflectionMSAA: 4
SSAO: 2
AnisotropicFiltering: 16
MSAA: 0
MSAAFragments: 0

MSAAQuality: 0SamplingMode: 0
TextureQuality: 2
ParticleQuality: 2
WaterQuality: 2
GrassQuality: 2
ShaderQuality: 2
Shadow_SoftShadows: 2
UltraShadows_Enabled: true
Shadow_ParticleShadows: true
Shadow_Distance: 1.000000
Shadow_LongShadows: true
Shadow_Split
ZStart: 0.930000
Shadow_SplitZEnd: 0.890000
Shadow_aircraftExpWeight: 0.990000
Shadow_DisableScreenSizeCheck: false
Reflection_MipBlur: true
FXAA_Enabled: true
TXAA_Enabled: false
Lighting_FogVolumes: true
Shader_SSA: true
DX_Version: 2

CityDensity: 1.000000
PedVarietyMultiplier: 1.000000
VehicleVarietyMultiplier: 1.000000
PostFX: 3
DoF: false
HdStreamingInFlight: true
MaxLodScale: 1.000000
MotionBlurStrength: 0.000000

Frames Per Second (Higher is better) Min, Max, Avg
Pass 0, 22.135378, 94.758339, 72.395111
Pass 1, 39.910507, 119.671463, 72.264534
Pass 2, 58.757687, 152.754318, 85.651268
Pass 3, 56.917000, 128.582962, 98.529381
Pass 4, 25.168856, 154.891342, 73.976242

Time in milliseconds(ms). (Lower is better). Min, Max, Avg
Pass 0, 10.553161, 45.176548, 13.813087
Pass 1, 8.356211, 25.056059, 13.838047
Pass 2, 6.546460, 17.019051, 11.675250
Pass 3, 7.777080, 17.569443, 10.149257
Pass 4, 6.456139, 39.731644, 13.517854

Frames under 16ms (for 60fps):
Pass 0: 539/671 frames (80.33%)
Pass 1: 515/666 frames (77.33%)
Pass 2: 788/789 frames (99.87%)
Pass 3: 906/908 frames (99.78%)
Pass 4: 6324/8267 frames (76.50%)


Frames under 33ms (for 30fps):
Pass 0: 670/671 frames (99.85%)
Pass 1: 666/666 frames (100.00%)
Pass 2: 789/789 frames (100.00%)
Pass 3: 908/908 frames (100.00%)
Pass 4: 8263/8267 frames (99.95%)

4 cores HTon... 4790K 4589Mhz ... (normal with HT on)

=== SYSTEM ===
Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200)
DX Feature Level: 11.0
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz (8 CPUs), ~4.0GHz
16384MB RAM

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980, 4203MB, Driver Version 365.19
Graphics Card Vendor Id 0x10de with Device ID 0x13c0


=== SETTINGS ===
Display: 1920x1080 (FullScreen) @ 144Hz VSync OFF
Tessellation: 3
LodScale: 1.000000
PedLodBias: 0.200000
VehicleLodBias: 0.000000
ShadowQuality: 2
ReflectionQuality: 2
ReflectionMSAA: 4
SSAO: 2
AnisotropicFiltering: 16
MSAA: 0
MSAAFragments: 0

MSAAQuality: 0
SamplingMode: 0
TextureQuality: 2
ParticleQuality: 2
WaterQuality: 2
GrassQuality: 2
ShaderQuality: 2
Shadow_SoftShadows: 2
UltraShadows_Enabled: true
Shadow_ParticleShadows: true
Shadow_Distance: 1.000000
Shadow_LongShadows: true
Shadow_Split
ZStart: 0.930000
Shadow_SplitZEnd: 0.890000
Shadow_aircraftExpWeight: 0.990000
Shadow_DisableScreenSizeCheck: false
Reflection_MipBlur: true
FXAA_Enabled: true
TXAA_Enabled: false
Lighting_FogVolumes: true
Shader_SSA: true
DX_Version: 2

CityDensity: 1.000000
PedVarietyMultiplier: 1.000000
VehicleVarietyMultiplier: 1.000000
PostFX: 3
DoF: false
HdStreamingInFlight: true
MaxLodScale: 1.000000
MotionBlurStrength: 0.000000


Frames Per Second (Higher is better) Min, Max, Avg
Pass 0, 29.119850, 111.703575, 86.650322
Pass 1, 36.647354, 111.298447, 79.818130
Pass 2, 70.941208, 156.577988, 94.140587
Pass 3, 67.843918, 175.709015, 118.909996
Pass 4, 29.046926, 169.466721, 90.632965

Time in milliseconds(ms). (Lower is better). Min, Max, Avg
Pass 0, 8.952265, 34.340836, 11.540638
Pass 1, 8.984852, 27.287100, 12.528481
Pass 2, 6.386594, 14.096180, 10.622411
Pass 3, 5.691227, 14.739715, 8.409722
Pass 4, 5.900864, 34.427052, 11.033513

Frames under 16ms (for 60fps):
Pass 0: 800/808 frames (99.01%)
Pass 1: 689/741 frames (92.98%)
Pass 2: 871/871 frames (100.00%)
Pass 3: 1099/1099 frames (100.00%)
Pass 4: 10078/10189 frames (98.91%)


Frames under 33ms (for 30fps):
Pass 0: 807/808 frames (99.88%)
Pass 1: 741/741 frames (100.00%)
Pass 2: 871/871 frames (100.00%)
Pass 3: 1099/1099 frames (100.00%)
Pass 4: 10188/10189 frames (99.99%)
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sorry for "repost" but... seems i can not edit my #36 post... i did a re-test using a i3-6300 4560Mhz, 3040ddr4 16161636, 2t... on a Msi z170 mortar.

Interesting, the overclocked i3-6300, on 16x pcie3 is faster than "half" a 4790k. on 8xpcie, but we all know that 8x vs 16x pcie does not make a difference... right?)
(i used the same ssd on the 6300 system,as the 4790 system, to make it easier for me to test.)


2cores HTon... i3-6300 4560ddr4 3040ddr4. on a asus vg278 non-gsync monitor

=== SYSTEM ===
Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200)
DX Feature Level: 11.0
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-6300 CPU @ 3.80GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.8GHz
16384MB RAM

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980, 4203MB, Driver Version 365.19
Graphics Card Vendor Id 0x10de with Device ID 0x13c0


=== SETTINGS ===
Display: 1920x1080 (FullScreen) @ 119Hz VSync OFF
Tessellation: 3
LodScale: 1.000000
PedLodBias: 0.200000
VehicleLodBias: 0.000000
ShadowQuality: 2
ReflectionQuality: 2
ReflectionMSAA: 4
SSAO: 2
AnisotropicFiltering: 16
MSAA: 0

MSAAFragments: 0
MSAAQuality: 0
SamplingMode: 0
TextureQuality: 2
ParticleQuality: 2
WaterQuality: 2
GrassQuality: 2
ShaderQuality: 2
Shadow_SoftShadows: 2
UltraShadows_Enabled: true
Shadow_ParticleShadows: true
Shadow_Distance: 1.000000

Shadow_LongShadows: true
Shadow_SplitZStart: 0.930000
Shadow_SplitZEnd: 0.890000
Shadow_aircraftExpWeight: 0.990000
Shadow_DisableScreenSizeCheck: false
Reflection_MipBlur: true
FXAA_Enabled: true
TXAA_Enabled: false
Lighting_Fog
Volumes: true
Shader_SSA: true
DX_Version: 2
CityDensity: 1.000000
PedVarietyMultiplier: 1.000000
VehicleVarietyMultiplier: 1.000000
PostFX: 3
DoF: false
HdStreamingInFlight: true
MaxLodScale: 1.000000
MotionBlurStrength: 0.000000

Frames Per Second (Higher is better) Min, Max, Avg
Pass 0, 15.648060, 98.663277, 80.260979
Pass 1, 41.892967, 113.502396, 81.681664
Pass 2, 52.913933, 131.891907, 89.502068
Pass 3, 69.174690, 134.463654, 106.567673
Pass 4, 39.631512, 134.840652, 80.963058

Time in milliseconds(ms). (Lower is better). Min, Max, Avg
Pass 0, 10.135484, 63.905685, 12.459354
Pass 1, 8.810387, 23.870356, 12.242650
Pass 2, 7.581966, 18.898615, 11.172926
Pass 3, 7.436954, 14.456155, 9.383709
Pass 4, 7.416161, 25.232447, 12.351312

Frames under 16ms (for 60fps):
Pass 0: 737/748 frames (98.53%)
Pass 1: 714/755 frames (94.57%)
Pass 2: 828/829 frames (99.88%)
Pass 3: 989/989 frames (100.00%)
Pass 4: 8169/9097 frames (89.80%)


Frames under 33ms (for 30fps):
Pass 0: 747/748 frames (99.87%)
Pass 1: 755/755 frames (100.00%)
Pass 2: 829/829 frames (100.00%)
Pass 3: 989/989 frames (100.00%)
Pass 4: 9097/9097 frames (100.00%)

4 cores HTon... 4790K 4589Mhz ... (normal with HT on) on a acer xb270hu Gsync at 1080p

=== SYSTEM ===
Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200)
DX Feature Level: 11.0
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz (8 CPUs), ~4.0GHz
16384MB RAM

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980, 4203MB, Driver Version 365.19
Graphics Card Vendor Id 0x10de with Device ID 0x13c0


=== SETTINGS ===
Display: 1920x1080 (FullScreen) @ 144Hz VSync OFF
Tessellation: 3
LodScale: 1.000000
PedLodBias: 0.200000
VehicleLodBias: 0.000000
ShadowQuality: 2
ReflectionQuality: 2
ReflectionMSAA: 4
SSAO: 2
AnisotropicFiltering: 16
MSAA: 0
MSAAFragments: 0

MSAAQuality: 0
SamplingMode: 0
TextureQuality: 2
ParticleQuality: 2
WaterQuality: 2
GrassQuality: 2
ShaderQuality: 2
Shadow_SoftShadows: 2
UltraShadows_Enabled: true
Shadow_ParticleShadows: true
Shadow_Distance: 1.000000
Shadow_LongShadows: true
Shadow_Split
ZStart: 0.930000
Shadow_SplitZEnd: 0.890000
Shadow_aircraftExpWeight: 0.990000
Shadow_DisableScreenSizeCheck: false
Reflection_MipBlur: true
FXAA_Enabled: true
TXAA_Enabled: false
Lighting_FogVolumes: true
Shader_SSA: true
DX_Version: 2

CityDensity: 1.000000
PedVarietyMultiplier: 1.000000
VehicleVarietyMultiplier: 1.000000
PostFX: 3
DoF: false
HdStreamingInFlight: true
MaxLodScale: 1.000000
MotionBlurStrength: 0.000000


Frames Per Second (Higher is better) Min, Max, Avg
Pass 0, 29.119850, 111.703575, 86.650322
Pass 1, 36.647354, 111.298447, 79.818130
Pass 2, 70.941208, 156.577988, 94.140587
Pass 3, 67.843918, 175.709015, 118.909996
Pass 4, 29.046926, 169.466721, 90.632965

Time in milliseconds(ms). (Lower is better). Min, Max, Avg
Pass 0, 8.952265, 34.340836, 11.540638
Pass 1, 8.984852, 27.287100, 12.528481
Pass 2, 6.386594, 14.096180, 10.622411
Pass 3, 5.691227, 14.739715, 8.409722
Pass 4, 5.900864, 34.427052, 11.033513

Frames under 16ms (for 60fps):
Pass 0: 800/808 frames (99.01%)
Pass 1: 689/741 frames (92.98%)
Pass 2: 871/871 frames (100.00%)
Pass 3: 1099/1099 frames (100.00%)
Pass 4: 10078/10189 frames (98.91%)


Frames under 33ms (for 30fps):
Pass 0: 807/808 frames (99.88%)
Pass 1: 741/741 frames (100.00%)
Pass 2: 871/871 frames (100.00%)
Pass 3: 1099/1099 frames (100.00%)
Pass 4: 10188/10189 frames (99.99%)
 
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Storage kingston kc3000 2TB, amongst others. Fanxiang s770 2TB
Display(s) benq ew3270u, or acer XB270hu, acer XB280hk, asus VG 278H,
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continued from #36...
extra, extra, this just in....:lovetpu:
so I removed the gtx980, so i could try 16x pcie on the 4790k...

so what can i conclude about the i3-6300 overclocked to the "same" clock rate of a 4 core 4790k (noHT)?... the 4790k gets twice the minimum FPS on pass0 /test 0, but close or about 10 percent faster average FPS than a i3-6300.

4 cores NO HT... 4790K 4589Mhz ... (normal with HT on) on a acer xb270hu Gsync at 1080p

=== SYSTEM ===
Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200)
DX Feature Level: 11.0
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz (4 CPUs), ~4.0GHz
16384MB RAM

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980, 4203MB, Driver Version 365.19
Graphics Card Vendor Id 0x10de with Device ID 0x13c0

Frames Per Second (Higher is better) Min, Max, Avg
Pass 0, 25.604931, 120.169708, 98.796402
Pass 1, 43.553162, 111.960243, 83.333771
Pass 2, 66.634018, 135.235764, 98.404388
Pass 3, 77.908646, 151.607559, 116.506607
Pass 4, 57.153267, 143.496597, 94.651314


=== SETTINGS ===
Display: 1920x1080 (FullScreen) @ 119Hz VSync OFF
Tessellation: 3
LodScale: 1.000000
PedLodBias: 0.200000
VehicleLodBias: 0.000000
ShadowQuality: 2
ReflectionQuality: 2
ReflectionMSAA: 4

SSAO: 2
AnisotropicFiltering: 16
MSAA: 0
MSAAFragments: 0
MSAAQuality: 0
SamplingMode: 0
TextureQuality: 2
ParticleQuality: 2
WaterQuality: 2
GrassQuality: 2
ShaderQuality: 2
Shadow_SoftShadows: 2

UltraShadows_Enabled: true
Shadow_ParticleShadows: true
Shadow_Distance: 1.000000
Shadow_LongShadows: true
Shadow_SplitZStart: 0.930000
Shadow_SplitZEnd: 0.890000
Shadow_aircraftExpWeight: 0.990000

Shadow_DisableScreenSizeCheck: false
Reflection_MipBlur: true
FXAA_Enabled: true
TXAA_Enabled: false
Lighting_FogVolumes: true
Shader_SSA: true
DX_Version: 2
CityDensity: 1.000000
PedVarietyMultiplier: 1.000000

VehicleVarietyMultiplier: 1.000000
PostFX: 3
DoF: false
HdStreamingInFlight: true
MaxLodScale: 1.000000
MotionBlurStrength: 0.000000


2cores HTon... i3-6300 4560ddr4 3040ddr4. on a asus vg278 non-gsync monitor



Frames Per Second (Higher is better) Min, Max, Avg
Pass 0, 15.648060, 98.663277, 80.260979
Pass 1, 41.892967, 113.502396, 81.681664
Pass 2, 52.913933, 131.891907, 89.502068
Pass 3, 69.174690, 134.463654, 106.567673
Pass 4, 39.631512, 134.840652, 80.963058
 
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