X79 and/or rampage IV OC'ing thread for those of us still left....

[dalekdukesboy]

I would say the Asic is irrelevant, there's no evidence high or low plays a big role on whether your clocks are high or not.

I think the quality of that 980ti isn't the best because it's the cheap model of MSI. But generally 1450 is okay, not really good, but not really bad either. It's not like 1480 would help you get a lot higher fps, it wont. But 1480 is the average any 980ti or gm200 can do.

If you think your gpu is degraded or degrading I would not push it at the highest power settings and go with what's a good balance at 1400mhz or so, 50mhz won't make a big difference anyway, but you're risking your whole gpu if you push it too much.

Ps. I'd never risk the card by playing on insane power limits like 150%. Benchmarking a few minutes maybe okay but never hours of playing. For that 100-110% is the limit for what is healthy for the gpu. I never use more than 100% myself. A friend has a nice 980ti I think he uses it at 90-100% at 1430mhz or so.

I was joking about 150%....the power limit is 120 period, unless you flash bios or play with it. Main point is something is goofy because all of a sudden it is using much more power to do less. Yeah, right now it goes to 120% and it boosts to like 1300 mhz...so no idea what that is about but that's what it does.

 

[Kanan]

Uh, simply don't let it use 120%. Did you mess with the bios? Because it sure sounds like it. I'd not go over 110% as I said earlier.

If everything is normal, if you didn't customize the card via bios, it sure sounds like the card is breaking down. Get rid of it before it's too late then. And if you have warranty, use it.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

I flashed bios but that was a while ago and everything was fine, and all I did was flash it to the msi gaming card profile so that really doesn't change much. Yeah thankfully not going to be gaming much anyway going away for about a week to FLA to visit folks then I'll deal with it. Right now nothing is going right with things so I'm just not touching it for a while.

 

[Kanan]

Yeah, but maybe you used it at a 120% for too long, it's not really healthy for cards to run over their limits. GPUs are rather sensible, more so than motherboards or CPUs.

FLA=Florida? Enjoy your stay

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Update, as I was away in Florida from Feb 2nd to 14th I wasn't posting here...just realized I was posting right up till day before lol thought it was longer. Anyway I posted in another thread that I was coming back here to update this thread etc but I just ordered 2 new sets of nice memory I got here in this system...really nice micron modules that are even cheaper now than when I originally ordered them! I also ordered few miscellaneous nice ball bearing fans that are 60-80 mm which I have very few of to use on mobo and other small spaces I need air but have no room for the umpteen millions of 120 mm and 140 mm fans I have laying around.

Well maybe IB-E IMC is better but the mess is the platform X79 not the cpus, if at all, I mean I'm pretty happy, never had any problems. I think problems with the platform start as soon as you start to play around with overclocking, more like special overclocking, not the simple one I'm doing increasing multiplier and voltage and set everything else to auto lol. But I very very much doubt X99 is any better there and you can't compare E platform to the consumer one.

If you change the cpu and bandwidth goes down its almost clear to me that the 3930k must be defective. Didn't you say you got it cheap somewhere? Sounds to me like IMC isn't working correctly and this is something you can't correct, unless it's a software failure of windows 7 which I very much doubt at this point. But you can install a second windows and try it out of course, to be sure.

Edit: another possibility is the bios. You could try a older version.

I just wanted to readdress this post because despite you liking your x79 overall you do say the x79 platform/board etc itself is the mess and weak point, I kinda agree. It works well, but yeah just fyi, once you push the FSB over 100 in particular and you push memory etc just expect blue screens, restarts, and general issues with pci-e bus, windows, and drivers/hard drive storage etc. It is very picky about memory, voltage and FSB speed so if you push those and are "off" at all with settings you get issues. So you can do it, but it's a process and requires patience as well as just an understanding you will have failures and forementioned issues all along the way. But...as you and others say this does make it a very challenging, annoying, but rewarding platform because it isn't too "easy" by any means it can be beyond challenging at times.

 

[Kanan]

Update, as I was away in Florida from Feb 2nd to 14th I wasn't posting here...just realized I was posting right up till day before lol thought it was longer. Anyway I posted in another thread that I was coming back here to update this thread etc but I just ordered 2 new sets of nice memory I got here in this system...really nice micron modules that are even cheaper now than when I originally ordered them! I also ordered few miscellaneous nice ball bearing fans that are 60-80 mm which I have very few of to use on mobo and other small spaces I need air but have no room for the umpteen millions of 120 mm and 140 mm fans I have laying around.



I just wanted to readdress this post because despite you liking your x79 overall you do say the x79 platform/board etc itself is the mess and weak point, I kinda agree. It works well, but yeah just fyi, once you push the FSB over 100 in particular and you push memory etc just expect blue screens, restarts, and general issues with pci-e bus, windows, and drivers/hard drive storage etc. It is very picky about memory, voltage and FSB speed so if you push those and are "off" at all with settings you get issues. So you can do it, but it's a process and requires patience as well as just an understanding you will have failures and forementioned issues all along the way. But...as you and others say this does make it a very challenging, annoying, but rewarding platform because it isn't too "easy" by any means it can be beyond challenging at times.

Yep, and that's why I don't push the FSB over 100, I know those problems from other, older problems long ago. The one platform where it ran pretty well was on Socket 939 and my Athlon 64 X2 3800+, at 240Mhz for 2400 MHz (+400MHz) or at 280MHz for 2800 MHz on the CPU, it ran pretty pretty good! Up until now the best OC experience I ever had, but yeah, it was a 300€ CPU and 120€ MB so not exactly cheap lol. Since Phenom II 940 I'm only using multi to overclock and it's so much better because Ram is untouched. I have to say I'm still puzzled why my CPU (the 3960X) needed more voltage after some time to run nice, remember I had to increase it from 1.31 to 1.35 and later on to 1.36 and atm it's running on 1.37V. Kinda puzzled, I hope the CPU isn't degrading! Mobo as well ofc, those are rare, I don't want to see it die.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Yep, and that's why I don't push the FSB over 100, I know those problems from other, older problems long ago. The one platform where it ran pretty well was on Socket 939 and my Athlon 64 X2 3800+, at 240Mhz for 2400 MHz (+400MHz) or at 280MHz for 2800 MHz on the CPU, it ran pretty pretty good! Up until now the best OC experience I ever had, but yeah, it was a 300€ CPU and 120€ MB so not exactly cheap lol. Since Phenom II 940 I'm only using multi to overclock and it's so much better because Ram is untouched. I have to say I'm still puzzled why my CPU (the 3960X) needed more voltage after some time to run nice, remember I had to increase it from 1.31 to 1.35 and later on to 1.36 and atm it's running on 1.37V. Kinda puzzled, I hope the CPU isn't degrading! Mobo as well ofc, those are rare, I don't want to see it die.

Yeah, truthfully I've abused my cpu from my athlon fx-55, which I overclocked 200 mhz to "make" it an fx-57 and had no idea what I was doing so I tried all sorts of voltages and only had stock cooler on it all the way up to my current cpu on x79 with core duo's inbetween I pushed to 5.0 ghz etc...and through all that I think I never saw a need to increase voltage on cpu within the time I used it till I retired it for newer platform. So I admit I'm puzzled and don't get that at all....other than the cpu is just burning out slowly...how long have you had it and how much gaming and other high stress do you put on it a day in hours if you had to guess? It could be just you used it for many hours OC'd and it's tired and it's not that you overvolted it or had that extreme of an overclock but maybe that plus just pure hours used like every other mechanical thing it eventually wears out. Kinda like light bulbs, washing machines, cars, etc, they either need fixing or replacing after X hours of use abused or not because physical matter used for mechanical tasks whatever they are eventually wear out in some way. That is my best guess and explanation especially where you haven't abused it or done anything that extreme with it. Also yeah I just pushed the FSB to 101 after getting some great timings etc solid at 2400 mhz and stability went from perfect to almost zero. I'm doing it partially because I just posted about the FSB and kinda wondered where that line is where you can push it a bit and not need much tweaking, and where you step over the line you need massive adjustments to keep it stable with relatively little gain in performance. But yeah, so far it's pretty funny how much even 1.0 mhz or even less on FSB makes all the difference in a perfectly stable OC at 100 FSB! Part of the problem is they should have unlinked the PCI-E bus and other systems from the FSB because you have no choice but to overclock everything at once when you OC the FSB and that makes it all the more difficult.

 

[Kanan]

Well if I have to guess I would say I didn't use it much. Light usage in payday 2 for about 10 hours a week and maybe 30 hours heavy usage in bf1. I think voltage is high enough now, could very well be the main board too.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

So a total of 30 hours gaming? Or is that per week and if so how long? You could be right, I'm just trying to understand exactly how long you've had it/used it. Heck I've had my Es since August 2012 so I'm amazed it isn't more tired than it is, only reason I'm using the 2nd board is first board got damaged and I have a retail processor and newer bios with many stability updates which helps on this already at times wobbly platform. So yeah unless you spent thousands of hours gaming and/or thousands of hours number crunching at 100% type utilization I'd agree especially since I've never seen a cpu degrade noticeably ever...I've only seen mobos fail to start etc which I believe is board issues and other things...so you may be right board could be what is bit tired maybe? Still, the big change seems odd all of a sudden that I don't get. I just took apart old board I'm going to use the heatsink and fan from it because I cleaned it up and new board fan for PCH died and I think that can't be helpful in keeping it cool while I push it....

Just in case anyone ever cared what the back/front of heatsink assembly of a Rive iv looks like that's it...I took off the aluminum foil-like shield that goes over the lower heatsink which shows the funky metal studs and little fan that blows over them to keep PCH cool. Kinda interesting plus I blew dust out of there lol.

 

[Kanan]

Uhm 5-10 hours a week payday 2 + 30 hours bf1 in general, so it would be about 150 hours or so maybe less or more just a guess. Mainboard I have since end of 2013 so it's a bit old now, I don't know how old the cpu is but could be from a few months after release date, it's a revision C2.

Yeah well I hope system stays stable with 1.37V now constantly for a long time, I don't want to increase it again! Hehe I think it's okay for now, stable.

Nice job on that cooler cleaning.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Uhm 5-10 hours a week payday 2 + 30 hours bf1 in general, so it would be about 150 hours or so maybe less or more just a guess. Mainboard I have since end of 2013 so it's a bit old now, I don't know how old the cpu is but could be from a few months after release date, it's a revision C2.

Yeah well I hope system stays stable with 1.37V now constantly for a long time, I don't want to increase it again! Hehe I think it's okay for now, stable.

Nice job on that cooler cleaning.

Yeah no shit, I hear that I get uneasy whenever I have to up voltages and things like that crop up because I am fairly paranoid that at some point I will cause premature croaking of my hardware from my beating of it lol. Thanks, yeah it was kind of a learning experience, last heatsink and only other one I removed from a board was a nvidia 680i sli back when they made boards for core 2 duo! lol. So yeah been a while and that heatsink was much simpler than this one and only had 2 heatsinks and couple screws, this one obvious covers whole board with 4 heatsinks and had almost a dozen screws, was a pain in the ass to put back on because with the heatpipes very flexible so screwholes don't line up easily let me tell you. However irony is this....fan still doesn't work lol, so I think it is an issue with the connection where the little fan plugs into board not the fan itself. But it's a tiny whiny fan that was only used for space it wasn't very good anyway so I just for the moment while I wait for my Newegg order of fans to come in just put a 120 mm antec right on the upper portion of the heatsink that is above fan...which is directly above the PCH so yeah it's cooler now than it woulda been by far with that little fan anyway. I also managed some nice stable runs since I did that with lower voltages than I was failing at before I switched heatsinks and put fan on PCH so I think that made all the difference was too hot for stability and I don't even have fans over VRM area but it's cooler just due to the heatpipes and how it all connects etc.

This is with that 1 mhz overclock on the FSB that before was not stable at all I referenced a couple days ago, I actually lowered several voltages and now it's stable and the throttling I got in results went away....before even with 100 mhz fsb those Gflops would start at 162 or so and by few runs they'd drop to 150's and last few often were 140's...so if it passed at all it was throttling. Little shit but kinda fascinating to me to see the differences in results when you just apply cooling to things and give it "what it wants" so to speak. See, this is one of those moments where x79 to me is very rewarding, when you actually figure shit out and "get" what the fuck it's doing and not like when you have to raise voltages and change settings yet get greeted with failed results, blue screens when you're just surfing web or hanging programs etc etc...Anyway FYI for everyone with x79, as reviewers often said heat IS the main enemy to this platform and when you get components cool it really is night and day the way the platform reacts particularly if you are overclocking even mildly.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Also if few hundred hours of gaming and other relatively "light" surfing, programs etc is all you've done with it since 2013 I agree that's not much and doubt it had much effect by itself on CPU/board/etc. I've done way more gaming on this, I was 24/7 playing Skyrim on it early on along with a couple others I've got easily 500+ hours gaming just with couple games I recall and that log time, I played a few others I uninstalled like Dragon age 1 and 2 so just with what I recall yeah just noting that vs. you doing less for little less time even I doubt anything you've done even made a minor dent in components. Shit happens, coulda been processor beat before you got it, or the board has a weak spot somewhere now requiring more voltage...who knows, but if you can keep it happy at 1.37 till next upgrade or processor/board swap etc you'll be good I'd say.

 

[Kanan]

Yeah I don't like these little whiney fans on Asus Mainboards either, I know it well from my S939 board called A8N-SLI (Nforce4), after 4 years or so it was broken and I called Asus to ask them for a replacement, they were kind enough to sent me a free replacement and I replaced it, PC went back to be functional again, so a happy end. I guess on your board it had to be on it, or too high temps, I guess it has so many more features compared to mine which is kinda skeleton X79 plus a few USB 3.0 extra, that it had to have (sorry if my English sucks) active cooling on it.

Thanks for the tips, I'm also very jealous of your low temps, haha. Would buy a water cooler as well but money is short atm.

I hope stuff isn't really degraded as you're saying, I'm still planing to use this platform for 2-3 years or even more if the 8 core Xeon we talked about is buyable then, for the next upgrade and kinda "refreshment" of the platform and PC.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Yeah I don't like these little whiney fans on Asus Mainboards either, I know it well from my S939 board called A8N-SLI (Nforce4), after 4 years or so it was broken and I called Asus to ask them for a replacement, they were kind enough to sent me a free replacement and I replaced it, PC went back to be functional again, so a happy end. I guess on your board it had to be on it, or too high temps, I guess it has so many more features compared to mine which is kinda skeleton X79 plus a few USB 3.0 extra, that it had to have (sorry if my English sucks) active cooling on it.

Thanks for the tips, I'm also very jealous of your low temps, haha. Would buy a water cooler as well but money is short atm.

I hope stuff isn't really degraded as you're saying, I'm still planing to use this platform for 2-3 years or even more if the 8 core Xeon we talked about is buyable then, for the next upgrade and kinda "refreshment" of the platform and PC.

Yeah, don't worry be happy. My best comical yet serious advice, I've been unemployed since late April so unemployment and help from my folks through that and now the recent losses I had have really dinged sense of self let's just say. I only say this not to whine but to say understand many of us don't have crap either I just bought stuff for PC to help me be distracted and figured screw worrying about that I don't have money just charge the credit card and spend nothing on anything else besides bills...and that's basically how I've operated for 9 months.

Hardly have gone out, use barely any gas for car, stretch my food and drink water for a while if I run out of juice/gatorade/soda etc. So yeah envy my temps, but don't envy where I'm at lol, I only said that mostly when you mentioned money figured it might be comforting to you plus just me saying I TOTALLY get how you feel! I'm betting your processor will outlive its' use and whatever the voltage quirk is it's not a big deal.

Yeah, I have only had this AIO for few months now but I am spoiled, barely hits 70 degrees on hottest core and mostly in 60's for 4.44 ghz with 1.4+ volts....with my Noctua I was constantly bumping 80+ degrees and that was at similar speeds and only 1.34 volts with the ES lol. Not sure how low I can get volts to the cpu but it definitely needs more than the ES but it also has about 10 degree higher temp max.

Overall it is pretty close minus needing higher voltage and the IMC is good and hits 2400 mhz plus on memory so not earth shattering but perfectly acceptable. Your English is fine btw, mostly don't even notice it I'd almost think it was your first language. Anyway I pushed on a bit and got higher result stable on memory with 102 mhz FSB so not bad...however this is dual channel till my new memory comes in so hopefully I'll get a couple good sticks to replace the one I have that isn't very good at overclocking.

Oh, yes on that 8 core IVY that is definitely my goal...after all this effort why the hell would I want to scrap this just to dump totally new unknown hardware like Ryzen in? lol. Yeah would be fun, but too much money to buy whole thing plus have to start OC knowledge of it all over. So that is WHY I hope Ryzen hurries the hell up and kicks ass and is in big volume so I can get that 8 core or nice IVY for diddly squat because Ryzen tanks the value on such things...that is my hope anyway.

 

[Kanan]

Yeah distraction and what we do for that. I think we sit in the same boat here., the whole 6 core Xtreme and stuff was based on that. I totally know how it's to live on low money, I don't think I know something else. Just I'm so used to it now, that I don't care. I think I actually never really cared.

Thanks for the comment on my english, most appreciated lol, gives me some peace of mind.

Yeah Ryzen will probably tank 6/8 core and even 4 core prizes totally down, Intel even started to give i3's overclockability and gave Pentium's HT to counter Ryzen, they really did the least all the time, until they had to do more, and this is just the first effect Ryzen had on the market, "the best is yet to come" hehe. AMD also used this slogan for "Ryzen +", the next gen one. I totally want to go for that Xeon, Ivy Bridge architecture and 22nm is a nice bonus on top of the 2 additional cores.

Friend of mine's board died a few days ago, he's trying to get a replacement, Asrock marketing screwed him, a Z-board for LGA1155 and it had bad/weak VRM section and it wasn't really cheap either, so it was marketed as a luxurious overclocker board sorta but was totally mediocre in the end. His overclocks weren't hard either, he pushed his i5 2500K to only 4.3 or 4.4 GHz, but I told him last year that his board is the culprit of him, having to reduce the clocks on the CPUs, because the board is simply not made for big overclocks. I have to say I'm not surprised, Asrock always had a fishy touch to it - better always check everything twice there before you buy something from them.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Interesting, I almost bought Asrock instead of Asus a few times, basically just a lower end Asus board and I have read reviews on their "extreme" boards etc and they seem to be pretty good. But good to hear that real life feedback and such. Anyway I hear you totally, I bought this whole system a month or two after my wife passed so I completely bought it as a toy, overkill distraction at the time...much as you seem to say you did exactly the same thing buying yours. Anyway I have phone interview in couple hours and I get not caring etc but you're obviously very smart and know a couple languages ( I speak one well and studied French/Spanish and that was years ago and I hardly know more than few words and phrases now) so I'd say accept where you are and don't beat yourself up, however don't give up either on doing much better because you have obvious potential and no reason you can't get there if you put your mind to it. Anyway my thought on that bit of this.

Back to "distraction" lol. That last test at 101 FSB was not nearly as far as board would go...I just kept upping voltages on Memory and used the Asus utility to up FSB in Windows and this is final test I got to run 10 runs on IBT stable check this out.

Way better than I ever got before...but again it's dual channel so add two sticks and those really nice tight timings and stability might vanish lol. But it was interesting to see what it'd do...but this is where I hate this platform and want to piss on it some days, I tried to boot into windows with these settings and it absolutely refused...matter of fact it was lower settings by far I was at 102 FSB in bios! But by changing in windows you can get to 103.4 and be stable under IBT? Ugh...talk about a tease. Not sure what its' deal is but it gets stuck on 70 code every time when I try to boot with a relatively high FSB, that is a PCH code but no voltage I change to PCH changes it. So I think it's more an issue with CPU IMC failing as it tries to boot, especially considering you can get it stable in windows if you change settings from there. I have a slow boot option and a few other things to play with but if nothing else I got it stable in windows lol.

 

[Kanan]

Sorry to hear your wife passed away. Well thanks, I'll try, my life is quite complicated I'm simply somewhere lost in the middle but things are going uphill now!

Yeah Asrock sure is in general a good brand, but some things they do aren't, it's only a reminder to be cautious with some brands, not to not buy them at all. Generally Asrock is one of the best brands I guess, but I think my Nr. 2 after Asus is still Gigabyte. I made very good experience with MSI as well. But Asus > all, never any problems, boards always top notch quality, not the smallest issues and the one I'm using now I bought used too, despite that it does great.

Yeah I don't know what the problem with Windows is sometimes, but the problem lies with Windows boot up stage not the board I think.
So you made the final switch to the 3930K for good? No going back?

 

[johnspack]

Might as well post in here too... soon I will be joining. e5-1650 xeon ordered, now I'm looking for an x79 mobo, like a rive. I will have cash by friday, and think I have a US address to send it to if needed. If anyone can help please msg....

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Might as well post in here too... soon I will be joining. e5-1650 xeon ordered, now I'm looking for an x79 mobo, like a rive. I will have cash by friday, and think I have a US address to send it to if needed. If anyone can help please msg....

I wish I had a good one to sell you, I have a dead one due to bent cpu pins but if socket was replaced on it the rest is great used it for like 3 years, RIVE 4....I bought a new/used Rive to replace it few months ago when I tried bending few pins back and went from a dual channel only mobo to one that wouldn't boot at all. Anyway good luck finding one and if I see or hear of any I'll let you know, welcome to thread!

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Sorry to hear your wife passed away. Well thanks, I'll try, my life is quite complicated I'm simply somewhere lost in the middle but things are going uphill now!

Yeah Asrock sure is in general a good brand, but some things they do aren't, it's only a reminder to be cautious with some brands, not to not buy them at all. Generally Asrock is one of the best brands I guess, but I think my Nr. 2 after Asus is still Gigabyte. I made very good experience with MSI as well. But Asus > all, never any problems, boards always top notch quality, not the smallest issues and the one I'm using now I bought used too, despite that it does great.

Yeah I don't know what the problem with Windows is sometimes, but the problem lies with Windows boot up stage not the board I think.
So you made the final switch to the 3930K for good? No going back?

Thanks, she passed April 2012 and in August'ish? I got this as an early toy for my Sept birthday and ultimate distraction etc. Then I told you I think earlier in thread I lost my girlfriend I was dating for about a month in January when she went suddenly as well. Lol, not funny but definitely all you can do is take it for what it is and move on best you can and I may insist anyone dating or marrying me get life insurance from now on for their kids' sake...smh.

Seriously though back to board etc...yeah boot menu can be goofy and yes if I really raise the voltage I get windows to start booting, but never finishes and hangs infinitely. So the issue isn't that the processor/memory can't do it but something in the board boot process and/or windows booting that doesn't like the memory above 2440 mhz or so. I had issues even with the ES on occasion booting above 2450 but just not as bad. But yeah definitely is annoying I got all the way to 104 fsb and 2490 mhz to pass 9 runs in IBT when I adjusted in windows! But I can't get 2440 or so to cold boot at all? Totally silly, I can see gaining a few mhz by cheating and adjusting in windows for suicide runs but for heavy stress testing shouldn't be such a huge difference.

However I'm going to post a few screenies from latest test, and yes I'm not going back to ES this bios is way better and till I replace it with IVY this 3930k does just fine. Hungrier for voltage for CPU stability but otherwise performs similarly and plays nice with my memory. Getting high mhz on memory and/or really tight main timings are NOT the way to get most performance out of your memory anyway...

I have played with secondary and even the tertiary settings and fyi THAT is where you can really squeeze more out of your memory. Biggest boost by far is adjusting one setting in secondary timings....Dram refresh Interval. I've played with it only a couple times but mostly just had it on auto and it was what it was. However I just literally cut in half and my memory is still stable it's crazy! Anyway granted my other timings are fairly tight too but just leaving the rest as they were and doing that I got by far the highest bandwidth and memory efficiency score rated by the Asus memtweak tool. Anyway for those of you who want an easy boost if you need bandwidth for certain programs and/or can't get much more out of your memory due to high density or high mhz that is one setting you may be able to lower and get better performance if you are being bottlenecked by memory.

 

[Kanan]

I feel you man, that's a big tragedy. I guess you come back stronger every time the life hits at you like that.

Yeah if the old bios is such a pain, going back isn't really cool I guess, I wouldn't know I don't know your mainboard and bios really well, but I'm using latest bios from 2014 on my mainboard as well, so I'm generally the one who want the latest .rom as well.

Thanks on that pro tip with the memory, maybe I'll try that out some time, if things get steep or so, you never know.

btw. I looked for the Xeon 8 core we both want to buy, it only has 3 listings in Germany and all of them are 1000 or a lot higher hahaha. Atm its pointless, I still hope it will be available for good money one day.
http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_odkw...E5+1680+v2.TRS0&_nkw=Xeon+E5+1680+v2&_sacat=0

 

[dalekdukesboy]

I feel you man, that's a big tragedy. I guess you come back stronger every time the life hits at you like that.

Yeah if the old bios is such a pain, going back isn't really cool I guess, I wouldn't know I don't know your mainboard and bios really well, but I'm using latest bios from 2014 on my mainboard as well, so I'm generally the one who want the latest .rom as well.

Thanks on that pro tip with the memory, maybe I'll try that out some time, if things get steep or so, you never know.

btw. I looked for the Xeon 8 core we both want to buy, it only has 3 listings in Germany and all of them are 1000 or a lot higher hahaha. Atm its pointless, I still hope it will be available for good money one day.
http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_odkw...E5+1680+v2.TRS0&_nkw=Xeon+E5+1680+v2&_sacat=0

Yeah, my first girlfriend turned later friend passed in 2005, since you got most of story might as well have it all lol, she was cancer, my wife and latest girlfriend were cardiac arrests sudden, my GF knew she had issue but stuck to diet etc and hadn't had a problem for 10 years, my wife no one knew just was totally out of nowhere, but either way I can tell you hardly makes a difference other than easier to explain, sudden heart stoppages are always shocking. Anyway no worries on all of that just giving you more of truncated but "whole" basic story since it has come up a few times now and you're right, you get stronger long term however weak you feel short term as the sucker punch of life hits you lol.

Back to topic, but feel free to wander btw since I do here and on other posts. That timing I had backwards...you want a HIGHER number on refresh rate, lower it is the more it refreshes which is fine but...it lowers performance for as it refreshes itself memory can't be crunching numbers so in theory you want highest number possible with longest pause between refreshes. Long story short I read this by Raja on Asus thread when I looked it up last night was a very helpful explanation to another member who was confused on this timing. Also yes newest bios possible is helpful, I can tell you from using 2012 and even earlier bios's with this board versus this newest one they made it is way more stable and much easier to restart and reset when you are OC'ing and settings fail etc. Very few blue screens now, only happen mainly when you've got one voltage significantly low and no real hard freezes or weird slowdowns or long pauses etc. It's so much better I almost forgot how annoying it was before till I think about it. Only issue is the booting into windows with FSB overclocked and that as you said appears to be a booting weakness of board and/or windows. I believe it's a bit of both for the bios screens do odd things then you get to windows load screen and it hangs after a ceertain point....

Also yeah there is one of those xeons I've watched since the trex random murderer guy mentioned it, right around 1,000 then and still same but I don't expect much change there till Ryzen hits and sells etc so only like a week till then I think so next couple weeks/month you may see that price and/or the other processors from x99 down also receive big price cuts if Ryzen is close to equaling x99 and is much cheaper. Intel will have no choice but to really cut the pricing on x99 to keep it inline and sell it till they release something to counter Ryzen. However I see it, it's a win for us because it will force them to sell current slop for what it's really worth and will push them to innovate and get even better products out quickly to compete with a hopefully reinvigorated AMD...win/win.

Oh just an hour ago my stuff from Newegg arrived! Christmas in February, latest distraction lol. All this stuff is literally one tenth the price of that 8 core beast by the way...I spent 20 dollars on 3 month membership to Newegg premium and between 50% off shipping 3 day express and few items getting discounted I saved over 30 bucks on order so kinda no brainer there. Anyway that is the memory I have played with and it seems to really be quality stuff and it's only 69 bucks a kit for 8 gigs which isn't bad at all for nice micron low voltage chips that overclock like mad. Anyway now I have a few sets I can play with and figure out which ones are most potent and see what I can do with quad channel now.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Had to reset bios at first since I was having issues when I put the 2 new dimms in but I reset bios and then put in my OC values and then dialed in Memory and used 3 of 4 of old sticks which I tested as good OC'ers and put in one of the new 4 modules and it's a keeper! Best results ever for relatively low voltages on the memory with quad channel and really tight settings on the 3930k, also better than any results I got on ES. I haven't even put a fan on VRM just two fans placed over half of the memory sticks as well as over the PCH and lower bits of the heatpipe I replaced and it's keeping everything cool enough and no throttling using over 12 gigs of memory for 10 runs and 55 minute test. I got lucky and picked one good OC'ing stick in 4 I bought but so far seems most of these are really good clockers, only one of 4 original sticks wouldn't cooperate at 2400 mhz or more unless you had loose timings...which for a 1600 mhz 1.35 volt kit is still way over specs so pretty happy with memory. I still have 3 of new sticks which I may not get to use in a while or ever but if I get bored I can test them see how good they are or if any of these fail or have issues I have backups, which is a nice luxury to have.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

This stuff is great memory, I actually tightened timings, lowered voltage slightly, and upped fsb 1 mhz and upped memory by 24 mhz and passed IBT and cracked 70k on write!

 

[Kanan]

Yeah, my first girlfriend turned later friend passed in 2005, since you got most of story might as well have it all lol, she was cancer, my wife and latest girlfriend were cardiac arrests sudden, my GF knew she had issue but stuck to diet etc and hadn't had a problem for 10 years, my wife no one knew just was totally out of nowhere, but either way I can tell you hardly makes a difference other than easier to explain, sudden heart stoppages are always shocking. Anyway no worries on all of that just giving you more of truncated but "whole" basic story since it has come up a few times now and you're right, you get stronger long term however weak you feel short term as the sucker punch of life hits you lol.

I'm glad you've taken it that well man, admirable. Life is never easy, but this... no one can hope to encounter things that bad, but you seem to be a strong and positive person and this is a truly good thing.

Also yeah there is one of those xeons I've watched since the trex random murderer guy mentioned it, right around 1,000 then and still same but I don't expect much change there till Ryzen hits and sells etc so only like a week till then I think so next couple weeks/month you may see that price and/or the other processors from x99 down also receive big price cuts if Ryzen is close to equaling x99 and is much cheaper. Intel will have no choice but to really cut the pricing on x99 to keep it inline and sell it till they release something to counter Ryzen. However I see it, it's a win for us because it will force them to sell current slop for what it's really worth and will push them to innovate and get even better products out quickly to compete with a hopefully reinvigorated AMD...win/win.

I sincerely hope so. AMD has to be back, on both fronts, CPU and GPU. It's odd the same company is responsible on two fronts to make things better for us consumers. I think Ryzen will be a great success, and Vega will be good too, just not as succesful as Ryzen will be. I think Nvidia will still be faster.

Oh just an hour ago my stuff from Newegg arrived! Christmas in February, latest distraction lol. All this stuff is literally one tenth the price of that 8 core beast by the way...I spent 20 dollars on 3 month membership to Newegg premium and between 50% off shipping 3 day express and few items getting discounted I saved over 30 bucks on order so kinda no brainer there. Anyway that is the memory I have played with and it seems to really be quality stuff and it's only 69 bucks a kit for 8 gigs which isn't bad at all for nice micron low voltage chips that overclock like mad. Anyway now I have a few sets I can play with and figure out which ones are most potent and see what I can do with quad channel now.

Nice stuff, which fans are these exactly, and what exactly are you planning to do with them?

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Had to reset bios at first since I was having issues when I put the 2 new dimms in but I reset bios and then put in my OC values and then dialed in Memory and used 3 of 4 of old sticks which I tested as good OC'ers and put in one of the new 4 modules and it's a keeper! Best results ever for relatively low voltages on the memory with quad channel and really tight settings on the 3930k, also better than any results I got on ES. I haven't even put a fan on VRM just two fans placed over half of the memory sticks as well as over the PCH and lower bits of the heatpipe I replaced and it's keeping everything cool enough and no throttling using over 12 gigs of memory for 10 runs and 55 minute test. I got lucky and picked one good OC'ing stick in 4 I bought but so far seems most of these are really good clockers, only one of 4 original sticks wouldn't cooperate at 2400 mhz or more unless you had loose timings...which for a 1600 mhz 1.35 volt kit is still way over specs so pretty happy with memory. I still have 3 of new sticks which I may not get to use in a while or ever but if I get bored I can test them see how good they are or if any of these fail or have issues I have backups, which is a nice luxury to have.

Buying low voltage memory to overclock is a great idea. 2400 MHz is DDR4 level of bandwidth, great!

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This stuff is great memory, I actually tightened timings, lowered voltage slightly, and upped fsb 1 mhz and upped memory by 24 mhz and passed IBT and cracked 70k on write!

Truly impressive. No one should say ever again X79 is old or outdated. With that kind of bandwidth it is still to stay for a long time!