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AMD's RX 580, 570 and RX 550 Specifications and 3D Mark Results Leak

Jism said:
What? the 6 extra watts coming from the pci-e slot and not VRM? This was adressed with a driver update + only cheaply designed motherboards with oc's suffered from that. The 150W vs 5.8Tflops for ~ 220$ was a top card.

A better proces is a natural shift in any chip producer. It will spare costs for both AMD and Glofo and the chip is proberly better at higher clocks and lower voltage. Rebranding was done esp. for the OEM market if i'm not mistaken. The real deal is coming from Vega soon. :)
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It wasn't just 6 extra watt off of the PCI-e. That was 12v consumption compared to total allowable for the slot.
 
EarthDog said:
Think...

They don't need to... :)

it's not going to improve it 20%... ;)

They did... HAVEN'T BEEN for generations now... I dont recall one since the 6 series...(680 to 770)

Edit: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/222806-rebranded-graphics-cards/

Did something sneek by me there? Can't think of any, at least where I know in midrange+.. any budget cards? That said, amd seems to rebrand (what feels like) entire lineups with no/minimal changes a lot more often than Nvidia.
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1500/1266 = 1.18 buddy. Then consider that the stock 480 throttled a lot. I am not saying that will directly translate into 1:1 performance, but who knows?


P.S. 780 isn't 20% stronger than the pathetic 680 lol:

https://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_980/images/perfrel_1920.gif
 
As for the RX 550, 1849 in FS extreme settings is still WAY above what any iGPU could do. With the right connectors, it could bring life back to old systems that are running multiple monitors.
 
oxidized said:
Laughable cause you saw the original, i don't really think you'd realize it's a fake if you hadn't.

My point is, why should we believe a random shoot on the internet?



What's with you guys? Why so irascible?
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....whooa had to google that one...
 
I see a lot of people mentioning LPP and LPE, but did AMD and/or GF ever mention that 480 is on LPE, and that 580 will be on LPP. I don''t remember anyone ever mentioning the process type of Polaris10 aside from finfet 14nm.
 
ShurikN said:
I see a lot of people mentioning LPP and LPE, but did AMD and/or GF ever mention that 480 is on LPE, and that 580 will be on LPP. I don''t remember anyone ever mentioning the process type of Polaris10 aside from finfet 14nm.
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I don't believe AMD ever directly confirmed it.

If my memory serves me correctly, there were many rumor articles mentioning both. Although the more credible ones said LPE.


It is quite possible the 480 was made on dirt cheap 14nm LPE, and LPP was saved for the 500/Vega series. In fact that has been my hunch the entire time...
 
Well let's hope, planning to keep my 2600k a little longer, squeeze out most i can of it, and pair it up with a rx580 maybe
 
Without power usage numbers it's hard to say if a rebrand is justifiable. If there hitting 1500 at 150w than that's worthy of a name change. Isn't this what intel's been doing for years now[ with a socket change].
 
ShurikN said:
I see a lot of people mentioning LPP and LPE, but did AMD and/or GF ever mention that 480 is on LPE, and that 580 will be on LPP. I don''t remember anyone ever mentioning the process type of Polaris10 aside from finfet 14nm.
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Indeed, this rumor is just wrong. Polaris is already on LPP. There's not process change. AMD never used LPE.
At most it will be a new silicon revision.
 
IF Nvidia made rebranding was many years ago,amd seems is doing for now..

I mean what joke is this,laugh of us.
 
1500 Mhz is very likely a fake.
 
oxidized said:
Alright
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Most are here to speculate on rumours , your motive is to prove shit means naught and can be faked.
It's an odd pass time to me
MrMilli said:
Indeed, this rumor is just wrong. Polaris is already on LPP. There's not process change. AMD never used LPE.
At most it will be a new silicon revision.
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Where's your rumour busting proof because afaik and most of the industry knew , when Polaris came out only Lpe was available LPP has not been available long ,afaik RyZen is AMD's first cut at LPP though there is no Lpe anymore so that's deffinately not used.
Lpe wasn't dirt cheap btw , at risk production never is but it will have been subsidized in all likelihood.
 
sounds like a consumer win to me .. these cards push prices of the previous brand down ... this would be great for my friends that are waiting on cards under like 150 - 200 $
 
ADHDGAMING said:
sounds like a consumer win to me .. these cards push prices of the previous brand down ... this would be great for my friends that are waiting on cards under like 150 - 200 $
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In that respect, I agree. Any $150-$250 Radeon card can pound any PC Game in 1080p at 60-100Hz.
AMD usually holds the best Prices Performance crown. VEGA, based on what we've been told, will be the GPU game changer. Will be what Fury X was suppose to have been.
 
Super XP said:
In that respect, I agree. Any $150-$250 Radeon card can pound any PC Game in 1080p at 60-100Hz.
AMD usually holds the best Prices Performance crown. VEGA, based on what we've been told, will be the GPU game changer. Will be what Fury X was suppose to have been.
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Game changer? I love AMD but the only thing that matters is raw performance to everyone but huge nerds and power usage to some and really doubt Vega is going to trump top end Pascal, let alone anything nVidia has waiting.

Since the VAST majority of PC gamers are going to top out at 1070ish pricing I would like to see AMD make their current offering more efficient. Would be nice to see 480 performance at 120 watts and lower temps, especially the VRMs. I think trying to revolutionize the CPU and GPU space at the same time when you have no money is going to be pretty hard. Polaris was just a sloppy release.

Would be curious to see 470 and 480 performance, temps and power usage with the cards running at 1100-1200.
 
theoneandonlymrk said:
Where's your rumour busting proof because afaik and most of the industry knew , when Polaris came out only Lpe was available LPP has not been available long ,afaik RyZen is AMD's first cut at LPP though there is no Lpe anymore so that's deffinately not used.
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"We plan to begin volume production with a 14nm LPE (low power early) process in the first half of 2015 and then push ahead with a 14nm LPP (low power plus) process in the second half of the year. Based on chip design projects commissioned by our clients, we believe a number of clients will produce wafer starts using 14nm LPE process initially. However, we expect the number of clients as well as wafer orders to grow robustly when we enter the 14nm LPP process, which will help ramp up our market share and sales significantly."
 
oxidized said:
Took me about 5 mins

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Here after I Uninstalled Crimson 17.3.1 ( XFX 290 double dissipation)

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Win7.I don't know about Win10.
 
ShurikN said:
"We plan to begin volume production with a 14nm LPE (low power early) process in the first half of 2015 and then push ahead with a 14nm LPP (low power plus) process in the second half of the year. Based on chip design projects commissioned by our clients, we believe a number of clients will produce wafer starts using 14nm LPE process initially. However, we expect the number of clients as well as wafer orders to grow robustly when we enter the 14nm LPP process, which will help ramp up our market share and sales significantly."
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Extracted from where????????? Says who?????
 
siluro818 said:
I really fail to see what is the point of this particular rebrand...
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It is using yesterday's proven, mature, cost-effective technology to provide an expected level of performance without having to utilize today's technology which is more cost prohibitive in relation to what you already have.

It is a smart way to operate from a business perspective especially if you are AMD operating on tight budget with little room for error.
 
horsemama1956 said:
Game changer? I love AMD but the only thing that matters is raw performance to everyone but huge nerds and power usage to some and really doubt Vega is going to trump top end Pascal, let alone anything nVidia has waiting.

Since the VAST majority of PC gamers are going to top out at 1070ish pricing I would like to see AMD make their current offering more efficient. Would be nice to see 480 performance at 120 watts and lower temps, especially the VRMs. I think trying to revolutionize the CPU and GPU space at the same time when you have no money is going to be pretty hard. Polaris was just a sloppy release.

Would be curious to see 470 and 480 performance, temps and power usage with the cards running at 1100-1200.
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I get what you are saying, but AMD being cash strapped "MUST" innovate, that's how they survive and that's how they've survived for many years now. Purely by Innovation and cost effective products. But with unique innovations injected into those products.

Intel, with piles of cash can afford failure. AMD cannot.
I only say Game Changer about VEGA because it looks very impressive. But I have a suspicion, in order to utilize VEGA to its fullest extent, it may need special specific programing. Because it's quite different from what's out today ATM.

Those that are familiar with programming and coding may have better in site.
 
Microsoft revealed hardware used by Xbox Scorpio.
On GPU side of things it is a 16nm TSMC (woot) 40 CU (480 is 36) GPU.

Very puzzled I am.
 
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