Thanks to Windows 11, Scalpers Buy Out Add-on TPM 2.0 Modules

Makaveli · Jun 25, 2021

lynx29 said:
I switched to Linux Mint latest beta about an hour ago... loving every damn second of it. Seriously no need for Windows anymore, unless you only care about AAA latest games.

I just switched to Linux Mint (latest beta release) I AM FREAKING IN LOVE!!! TAKE CARE WINDOWS 10 and 11 LMAO

So first impressions so far today... it's smooth!!! So smooth! It's very user friendly... I have already installed Steam with two clicks, updated all my drivers from the welcome window that pops up on first install, installed proprietary Nvidia driver, got gsync working. Steam has an awesome...

www.techpowerup.com

Um some of us work on our machines and need windows?

So the last part about only if you care about AAA latest games not 100% accurate.

Camm · Jun 25, 2021

People are dumb fucks, by the time of launch, TPM 1.2 will work for Windows 11, allowing anyone from Haswell up to run Windows 11.

Scalpers scalped themselves.

Space Lynx · Jun 25, 2021

Makaveli said:
Um some of us work on our machines and need windows?

So the last part about only if you care about AAA latest games not 100% accurate.

that's true. and i just said that a moment ago in the thread I made! well done! congrats!

lexluthermiester · Jun 25, 2021

Makaveli said:
Um some of us work on our machines and need windows?

So the last part about only if you care about AAA latest games not 100% accurate.

Yup, pretty much this. Linux is good, but can't do everything Windows can.

Instead of rambling on about Linux(off-topic) let us all instead give microsoft the shaft by breaking/cracking/circumventing all of their bullshit limitations and intrusions.
To be clear, I'm NOT promoting piracy. Go buy a damn CDKey. Then rip Windows 11 a few new ones and teach microsoft who's boss!(that would be us, the users)
HACK microsoft's PLANET!!

(While I'm being funny, I'm also totally serious. Hack, crack and rip all the microsoft stuffs. As long as you own it, you have the right to modify it. Legally protected right.)

yotano211 · Jun 25, 2021

lynx29 said:
will be going to Linux anyway now, so scalpers and M$ can eat it. damn, it feels good to be free once and for all. Linux to the moon!

I'll stay on windows 10 for at least 1.5yrs after win 11 is released. I'll wait until they iron out all the defects of windows 11. I wish I can still go back to win 7.

trparky · Jun 25, 2021

MxPhenom 216 said:
It still doesn't work. I just tried the compatibility tool on my 8700k and with both PTT and dTPM enabled in BIOS neither option passed. So don't be too thankful.

All I need was to flip that setting in my Gigabyte motherboard's UEFI and that was I needed to do to make that tool say that my system is supported.

RedBear · Jun 25, 2021

MxPhenom 216 said:
It still doesn't work. I just tried the compatibility tool on my 8700k and with both PTT and dTPM enabled in BIOS neither option passed. So don't be too thankful.

Did you disable CSM (and are you using a GPT partition)? I believe Windows 11 needs a pure UEFI environment. My 2600x passes the test alright after enabling fTPM in the bios.

InVasMani · Jun 25, 2021

Windows 11 seems like Microsoft is going full Windows S Mode with the standard affair of them making a 1 or 2 changes they know people will actually want that should've and could've probably been done a decade or two ago if they weren't so busy doing questionable stuff instead like forcing CandyCrush, OneDrive, Edge, and Bing malware on systems.

I had to sign up for a Microsoft account on a Windows S Mode laptop just to get out of Windows S Mode to install Mozilla Firefox awhile back on a laptop and it was infuriating quite frankly it involved a bunch of hassle and was completely unnecessary and frankly intrusive as hell and should be made illegal to force that on customers. It's probably less involved actually to install Linux start to finish than removing Windows S Mode in some instances. It would depend a bit on the Linux variant and how hands off the installation process, but it goes to show you how bad Windows S Mode is.

All in order for Microsoft to force you into only using it's Windows store approved APPS. I don't think even something like Foobar music player works in Windows S Mode. I mean Mozilla Firefox doesn't so I can't imagine what programs work on Windows S Mode that aren't Microsoft products, but I imagine their own programs just work seamlessly which is rather anti competitive behavior I'd argue. It's of course under the guise of security. Nothing makes me feel more secure about my personal data than being forced to give it away to Microsoft to uninstall it's Window S Mode malware/ransomware.

Nash · Jun 25, 2021

InVasMani said:
Windows 11 seems like Microsoft is going full Windows S Mode with the standard affair of them making a 1 or 2 changes they know people will actually want that should've and could've probably been done a decade or two ago if they weren't so busy doing questionable stuff instead like forcing CandyCrush, OneDrive, Edge, and Bing malware on systems.

I had to sign up for a Microsoft account on a Windows S Mode laptop just to get out of Windows S Mode to install Mozilla Firefox awhile back on a laptop and it was infuriating quite frankly it involved a bunch of hassle and was completely unnecessary and frankly intrusive as hell and should be made illegal to force that on customers. It's probably less involved actually to install Linux start to finish than removing Windows S Mode in some instances. It would depend a bit on the Linux variant and how hands off the installation process, but it goes to show you how bad Windows S Mode is.

All in order for Microsoft to force you into only using it's Windows store approved APPS. I don't think even something like Foobar music player works in Windows S Mode. I mean Mozilla Firefox doesn't so I can't imagine what programs work on Windows S Mode that aren't Microsoft products, but I imagine their own programs just work seamlessly which is rather anti competitive behavior I'd argue. It's of course under the guise of security. Nothing makes me feel more secure about my personal data than being forced to give it away to Microsoft to uninstall it's Window S Mode malware/ransomware.

It's literally two steps to change from Windows S. That OS was never intended to be a general purpose consumer OS for powerful PC's. It's a purposefully locked down, secure, efficient OS for lower end laptops (aka chromebooks) in large enterprises, schools. Microsoft can't guarantee the security or performance for users who are downloading crapware and files from all over the net.

windwhirl · Jun 26, 2021

Nash said:
Haha, looking at you scalper should have gone artisan 5g Fighters Plus.

Asus TPM on hand.

View attachment 205413

Why does that look like something someone would use to smoke their way to death?

phanbuey said:
They need as much data as they can ~~sell~~ get.

If we're gonna go with that, Windows 10 already does it, and they also had those updates for Windows 7 with telemetry included.

lexluthermiester said:
Wait, on chip? Are they doing that now? Last time I checked TPM was a motherboard bound thing...

Apparently there's a TPM implementation in AMD's Platform Security Processor (PSP), and Intel also has their own implementation of the same idea.

lexluthermiester said:
Yup, pretty much this. Linux is good, but can't do everything Windows can.

Instead of rambling on about Linux(off-topic) let us all instead give microsoft the shaft by breaking/cracking/circumventing all of their bullshit limitations and intrusions.
To be clear, I'm NOT promoting piracy. Go buy a damn CDKey. Then rip Windows 11 a few new ones and teach microsoft who's boss!(that would be us, the users)
HACK microsoft's PLANET!!
View attachment 205427

(While I'm being funny, I'm also totally serious. Hack, crack and rip all the microsoft stuffs. As long as you own it, you have the right to modify it. Legally protected right.)

NGL, it's weird reading that with Agent Smith's voice lol

katzi · Jun 26, 2021

eidairaman1 said:
I see ms facing antitrust suit again

For making some security mandatory? Doubt it.

Caring1 · Jun 26, 2021

erocker said:
These scalpers are just wannabe future pharma CEO's.

Or stock market traders.

Hachi_Roku256563 · Jun 26, 2021

lynx29 said:
will be going to Linux anyway now, so scalpers and M$ can eat it. damn, it feels good to be free once and for all. Linux to the moon!

Nah ill be sticking to windows
my computers perfectly capable so i see no reason not to it is the better os for gaming after all

Frank_100 · Jun 26, 2021

TheoneandonlyMrK said:
As if, they'll likely auto update at some point, force wiping your shit, fail to put 11 on then fail a rollback.
BSD no drive found.

Clonezilla.

TheLostSwede said:
Doesn't matter, as you apparently need an 8th gen Intel CPU at the very minimum as well...

The really amusing part here is that a Celeron (read Atom) N4000 is supported...

Windows processor requirements Windows 11 supported Intel processors

This specification details the Intel processors that can be used with Windows 11 customer systems that include Windows products, including custom images.

docs.microsoft.com

It would seem no non Zen architecture AMD CPUs are supported.

Windows processor requirements Windows 11 supported AMD processors

This specification details the AMD processors that can be used with Windows 11 customer systems that include Windows products, including custom images.

docs.microsoft.com

So an i9 7900X with a soldered lid is not powerful enough to run windows 11? Ha Ha Ha.

Guess I'll just have to forgo the upgrade.

Hachi_Roku256563 · Jun 26, 2021

Frank_100 said:
So an i9 7900X with a soldered lid is not powerful enough to run windows 11? Ha Ha Ha.

its not power its security

AsRock · Jun 26, 2021

HAHA no harm done, well not to me should clear up before 3-4 years pass by.

Frank_100 · Jun 26, 2021

Nash said:
Labor?

Seating one of these on a motherboard qualifies as labor?
(downsized pic)
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and a masters degree.

ixi · Jun 26, 2021

Sometimes I wondor. Are there scalpers between techpowerup users

.

Looks like scalping will be a big problem for a while...

Frank_100 · Jun 26, 2021

Isaac` said:
its not power its security

When I want security I use Linux and an air Gap.

ThrashZone · Jun 26, 2021

Frank_100 said:
Clonezilla.

So an i9 7900X with a soldered lid is not powerful enough to run windows 11? Ha Ha Ha.

Guess I'll just have to forgo the upgrade.

Hi,
7900x has pigeon poop inside not solder lol

Frank_100 · Jun 26, 2021

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
7900x has pigeon poop inside not solder lol

I sent it off to be de-lidded. So it has solder or maybe liquid metal.

It runs really cool.

Deleted member 185088 · Jun 26, 2021

It seems Microsoft doesn't want people to "upgrade" to Windows 10, this TPM requirement is just stupid, most people have no idea what a bios is let alone use it.

MxPhenom 216 · Jun 26, 2021

Xex360 said:
It seems Microsoft doesn't want people to "upgrade" to Windows 10, this TPM requirement is just stupid, most people have no idea what a bios is let alone use it.

Most people buy prebuilts, laptops, surface's so this thing isnt exactly a super big problem for them.

ThrashZone · Jun 26, 2021

Frank_100 said:
I sent it off to be de-lidded. So it has solder or maybe liquid metal.

It runs really cool.

Hi,
Liquid metal is not solder but indeed cooler it will be :cool:

Hachi_Roku256563 · Jun 26, 2021

Frank_100 said:
When I want security I use Linux and an air Gap.

You said a i9 was not powerful enough to run win 11 it's not powerful it's security

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Thanks to Windows 11, Scalpers Buy Out Add-on TPM 2.0 Modules

Makaveli

I just switched to Linux Mint (latest beta release) I AM FREAKING IN LOVE!!! TAKE CARE WINDOWS 10 and 11 LMAO

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Windows processor requirements Windows 11 supported Intel processors

Windows processor requirements Windows 11 supported AMD processors

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