Intel's 13th Gen Raptor Lake Lineup Leaks

[Minus Infinity]

If were getting RL the non K models would be all you need. Why would you want to OC K processors when they'll suck power harder than a crypto farm. I shudder to think what ludicrous power draw the inevitable 13900KS coems with, easily 400W I'd say.

Any how RL is of zero interest, this gen, Zen 4 v-cache all the way, but I do eagerly await the (delayed) Meteor Lake with it's chiplet design.

 

[tussinman]

genuinly dont know why anyone would get this with Meteorlake coming

I think it's pretty obvious why it's going to be popular. Most of the Intel enthusiast buyers are already on the LGA 1700 platform so it's just a CPU drop in for them which is a no brainer.

For entry level and mid-level buyers raptor lake chips like the 13100, 13400, and 13600 will offer good bang for your buck especially paired with cheaper DDR4 ram and discounted 600 series B boards

If anything meteor lake is probably going to be the one that most people skip (enthusiasts already have a stable platform and low to mid level will chase the bang for your buck and not the latest and greatest)

 

[Crackong]

Microsoft bug11 required for all 13th gen SKUs

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

genuinly dont know why anyone would get this with Meteorlake coming

You mean a year from now

 

[ratirt]

There is no 12600 non-k? Is that one coming out later or it wont? 12900 and 12700 are in the list.

 

[tussinman]

There is no 12600 non-k? Is that one coming out later or it wont? 12900 and 12700 are in the list.

The 12600 non k came out in March and techpowerup reviewed it. It's still for sale, in your region for example komplett sells it currently

 

[ratirt]

The 12600 non k came out in March and techpowerup reviewed it. It's still for sale, in your region for example komplett sells it currently

damn sorry I been thinking about the 13th gen but it is like automatic reaction.
13600 non-k obviously. The 13900 and 13700 non K's are in the list.

 

[Gica]

The most important thing is that it maintains compatibility with DDR4. Not everyone wants extreme performance.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

whats on LGA1700? just 13xxx and12xxx only? or is 11xxx too?

 

[ixi]

genuinly dont know why anyone would get this with Meteorlake coming

Why would anyone buy 14th-gen if there will be 15th-gen .

 

[beedoo]

Why would anyone buy 14th-gen if there will be 15th-gen .

Don't be ridiculous; buy both - it's Intel, they'll be amazing!

 

[efikkan]

I wonder if it's due to the DDR5 support? I know DDR5 isn't true ECC, but it's halfway there.

All DDR5 have ECC on transmission, which corrects errors on transmission between CPU and RAM, but this is not the same thing as "ECC memory".
ECC memory with 1-bit correction requires extra memory chip(s) to store a 9th bit which is used as parity, plus it requires active validation by the CPU's memory controller and being enabled by the OS to handle the result. ECC memory checks for data integrity for the entire lifecycle of a block of memory, from the time it is written until the last time it is read back.

For the Intel CPU's that support ECC is that "official" or "unofficial" support? I really disliked the fact AMD had ECC support in their Ryzen CPU's but only in the pro versions was it "officially" supported.

ECC is pretty pointless if the hardware isn't verified for it, which is the case for Ryzen.
Intel offer ECC support on certain Alder Lake CPUs, but it needs a compatible motherboard and of course ECC memory modules to work.

Should be official, 12900k already does that but I haven't seen any mobos with ECC support, though considering there probably 100's of motherboards that support ADL I obviously haven't scanned all of them.

Only motherboards with the W680 chipset supports it, but there are very few of these available in retail. Supermicro have a couple, and I think Asrock and Gigabyte have announced/released(?) one each. Unfortunately there is nothing from Asus and MSI. Asus WS motherboards have been very solid in the past, so I wish they did.

 

[ixi]

whats on LGA1700? just 13xxx and12xxx only? or is 11xxx too?

12-13th gen. For 11th-gen it was socket 1200.

 

[Pumper]

genuinly dont know why anyone would get this with Meteorlake coming

DDR4 support.

 

[noel_fs]

surely leaks

 

[bobsled]

Leaks? No.
PR info fed via tech articles? Absolutely.

 

[R0H1T]

The most important thing is that it maintains compatibility with DDR4. Not everyone wants extreme performance.

DDR5 isn't "extreme performance" if anything forcing users to change boards every other year is!

 

[ZoneDymo]

I think it's pretty obvious why it's going to be popular. Most of the Intel enthusiast buyers are already on the LGA 1700 platform so it's just a CPU drop in for them which is a no brainer.

For entry level and mid-level buyers raptor lake chips like the 13100, 13400, and 13600 will offer good bang for your buck especially paired with cheaper DDR4 ram and discounted 600 series B boards

If anything meteor lake is probably going to be the one that most people skip (enthusiasts already have a stable platform and low to mid level will chase the bang for your buck and not the latest and greatest)

a no brainer? its another 350 to idk 800? dollars for a minimal upgrade.....I mean I guess if money is 100% not a factor but who whom is that the case?

I mean sure I have a 12600k now and IF in the far future I can get a 13900k for like 100 - 150 bucks I might get it...though chances are by that time we will have moved up so much in performance per watt that it would be a much better choice to just upgrade.
Its kinda like how SLI / Crossfire was rather silly back in the day and everyone said to just get a single newer gpu then another older gpu.

Meteorlake has been ermm hyped by intel since before alderlake was even out and you still see new information floating about on it, raptorlake is the boring more of the same update but meteorlake seems to be genuinely a step forward.

also I dont understand how you can make that last remark about meteorlake but then now see that that applies way more logically to raptorlake.

You mean a year from now

yes, a year from now, I just dont understand why you would jump onboard now when you havent for alderlake...

Why would anyone buy 14th-gen if there will be 15th-gen .

Like I said already, meteorlake seems ot genuinely be an evolution, raptorlake is more of the same that alderlake already is, so why opt in now when you havent done so already for alderlake.
Its kinda the same with Intel ARC, why would you get intel ark soon tm with the new stuff from AMD and Nvidia around the corner, you waited this long already for a new gpu that the A770 would even be an interesting upgrade for you....so why would you get that now with indeed something probably much better on the horizon.

DDR4 support.

I guess... but DDR5 is becoming faster and cheaper so idk if you want to buy that.
I have ddr4 with alderlake and its fine but there is a sense of it being old now.

 

[Animalpak]

Will they release a KS version during 2023 ?

 

[TheLostSwede]

Will they release a KS version during 2023 ?

Unknown at this point in time, but highly likely.

 

[shk021051]

Why would anyone buy 14th-gen if there will be 15th-gen .

because 13 gen is refresh but 14 is a new architect with the new node

 

[P4-630]

Got the 12100f and it's great for gaming. Will upgrade when 13th gen is cheaper )

Depends on what GPU you have.

 

[Gica]

DDR5 isn't "extreme performance" if anything forcing users to change boards every other year is!

Do you really think Alder Lake will be completely outgrown in a year? Why change a processor every year and the motherboard every two years?

 

[Metroid]

AMD 7xxx will be a better deal than 13xx intel because it generates less heat, 13xx still on 10nm and zen4 5nm. The day we get apples to apples aka same nm then intel might be a better deal till then amd will keep winning. Intel terminated a deal they had with tsmc about using their 3nm process, https://www.extremetech.com/computing/338679-intel-may-drop-tsmcs-3nm-tgpu-from-meteor-lake and that was bad.

 

[Gica]

AMD 7xxx will be a better deal than 13xx intel because it generates less heat, 13xx still on 10nm and zen4 5nm. The day we get apples to apples aka same nm then intel might be a better deal till then amd will keep winning. Intel terminated a deal they had with tsmc about using their 3nm process, https://www.extremetech.com/computing/338679-intel-may-drop-tsmcs-3nm-tgpu-from-meteor-lake and that was bad.

They terminated the contract because TSMC cannot offer mass production on the announced date. It seems that they will use 5nm for igp, the component that consumes the least, under one watt when 3D acceleration is not activated.
For the consumer, choosing a processor is identical to choosing shoes. They are praised in vain if you buy them two sizes smaller or larger.
Regarding consumption, my system with i5-12500 consumed 5.5 KW during the whole month of August for almost 7 hours of daily operation. I think I can foot the bill.
Update: my wattmeter report 0.864 Kw for september.
Update 2: maybe not https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/ryzen-7000-could-rumored-to-run-very-hot.html