NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5050 Uses Slower GDDR6 Memory, Based on GB207 Silicon

[btarunr]

NVIDIA is preparing to launch a new lower mid-range graphics card SKU in July, the GeForce RTX 5050. Positioned below the RTX 5060, the RTX 5050 possibly targets a price-point under the $250 mark, looking for a slice of the pie commanded by the Intel Arc B580. We are now learning that NVIDIA is making design choices that enable it to sell this card with an aggressive price, specifically, the choice of older generation GDDR6 memory. The card will likely feature 8 GB of GDDR6 memory across a 128-bit memory interface. At this point, we don't know the memory speeds, but if we were to hazard a guess, it could be 18 Gbps, for 288 GB/s of memory bandwidth.

The RTX 5050 is also expected to debut and max out the new "GB207" silicon, the smallest chip based on the GeForce Blackwell graphics architecture. This chip is expected to come with 20 SM, for 2,560 CUDA cores, 80 Tensor cores, 20 RT cores, 80 TMUs, and an unknown number of ROPs. The RTX 5050 is expected to be given a total graphics power (TGP) value of 130 W. It will be possible to build cards with 6-pin PCIe power connectors (75 W from connector, 75 W from the PCIe slot), although we expect single 8-pin PCIe to be the standard. The 130 W TGP will make it possible to build low-profile or compact, ITX-friendly cards.



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[SilentComet47]

If they can actually hit sub-$250 with 8 GB VRAM and 130W TGP, this could be a solid option for budget 1080p builds. Not expecting miracles from the GB207, but if the efficiency is there, it might surprise.

 

[Bloste]

Seems the never released 4050, but in Blackwell edition and 128-bit memory interface instead of 96-bit:

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050 Specs

NVIDIA AD107, 2640 MHz, 2560 Cores, 80 TMUs, 32 ROPs, 6144 MB GDDR6, 2250 MHz, 96 bit

www.techpowerup.com

Edit: Meh, forget that. It seems the X050 are almost carbon copies generation after generation.

 

[rattlehead99]

Would have been nice if it was 75W or less.

 

[yfn_ratchet]

"We heard you guys loved the 3050 8GB when it came out, so much that we decided to do it again. 2070 performance on a good day, for a price you can only justify if you can't afford anything better."

What a crock. Cards in this awkward middle ground have never really found their niche: the 1060 3GB, the 1660/Ti/Super, the 3050 8GB... The kind of people that bought them bought them because they wanted to build something for themselves, but couldn't afford a better card (and/or didn't know better). Items like the 1050Ti, the 1650, and at this point the 3050 6GB find much greater success due to both being cheap and playing nice with cheap systems, i.e. office PCs with crappy proprietary power supplies.

Slot-powered is a powerful position in the market, and oftentimes makes up for a card's otherwise abysmal value proposition. Doesn't matter much if the card ain't worth $170 if the system in total costs less than a petsitter's paycheck.

 

[dgianstefani]

Would have been nice if it was 75W or less.

There will likely be a Quadro slot powered version like the RTX A2000.

Doesn't make much sense to power limit these cards to 75 W when APUs exist. Better for 95% of gamers to plug in a single cable and get, what, 30-40% more performance

 

[Kwadratowicz]

I hoped that 5050 could use only slot power, cause I've got 1650 with 6 pin power connector, and it is pain in the a.. with such small card, I need to use bigger psu just for this connector. -.- (I've got some sff proprietary psus from dell and other sff pc, but they don't have 6 pin for pcie. -.- )

 

[dgianstefani]

"We heard you guys loved the 3050 8GB when it came out, so much that we decided to do it again. 2070 performance on a good day, for a price you can only justify if you can't afford anything better."

What a crock. Cards in this awkward middle ground have never really found their niche: the 1060 3GB, the 1660/Ti/Super, the 3050 8GB... The kind of people that bought them bought them because they wanted to build something for themselves, but couldn't afford a better card (and/or didn't know better). Items like the 1050Ti, the 1650, and at this point the 3050 6GB find much greater success due to both being cheap and playing nice with cheap systems, i.e. office PCs with crappy proprietary power supplies.

Slot-powered is a powerful position in the market, and oftentimes makes up for a card's otherwise abysmal value proposition. Doesn't matter much if the card ain't worth $170 if the system in total costs less than a petsitter's paycheck.

Slot powered RTX 3050 was the best card you could get for low powered media machines/HTPC/gaming rigs, bar the much more expensive A2000 or using a weaker AMD APU without the benefit of DLSS.

RTX Video is very nice to have for your standard compressed 1080p stream on a 4K TV.

Likelihood is the new NVIDIA APU will replace slot powered GPUs for best in class at that power target.

 

[yfn_ratchet]

Slot powered RTX 3050 was the best card you could get for low powered media machines/HTPC/gaming rigs, bar the much more expensive A2000 or using a weaker AMD APU without the benefit of DLSS.

Indeed, the 3050 6GB is a decently popular homelab workhorse as well. Slot-in CUDA/NVENC capability is hard to argue against. I didn't have my ear to the ground about HTPC/homelab around the time the older slot-powered cards I mentioned were relevant, though I imagine they were similarly popular in those segments.

 

[lexluthermiester]

There will likely be a Quadro slot powered version like the RTX A2000.

Maybe. Hopefully they do consumer models.

Doesn't make much sense to power limit these cards to 75 W when APUs exist.

APU's can't upgrade a system that doesn't support them. We need single slot 75w versions of these cards.

 

[Macro Device]

Cards in this awkward middle ground have never really found their niche: the 1060 3GB

Nah, 1060 3 GB was an excellent seller and awesome value for quite a while, at least here in Russia. It used to par 1050 Ti's price while providing substantially more oomph. Cheap, power efficient and reasonably fast, it enabled gaming for poor since late '18. Only just now people who live on crumbs for salary are starting to upgrade from them, mostly to RX 6600. It only having 3 GB VRAM didn't matter for two reasons:
1. Games from then didn't require that much VRAM to run fine. 2. People paid like five cheeseburgers for these GPUs.

2070 performance on a good day, for a price you can only justify if you can't afford anything better

Please don't say you never saw it coming. I'm quite surprised with 5060 beating 4060 because, y'know, nVidia faced no pressure again. So 5050 being ballpark 2070 but with lower TDP is better than expected. Still garbage value anyway.

 

[john_]

the RTX 5050 possibly targets a price-point under the $250 mark

That's a high price. And with GDDR6, I would expect a price target of $199, $229 max because it is Nvidia. $250 is DOA.....well ok....now that I am thinking of it, it should be DOA, but it will sell and will sell great, no matter how bad of an option it will be. Nvidia sticker sells even rotten bread today.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Nah, 1060 3 GB was an excellent seller and awesome value for quite a while, at least here in Russia.

Not just Russia. The 1060 3GB was the budget card to have during that time.

 

[Macro Device]

Nvidia sticker sells even rotten bread today.

"AMD bread is too al dente, our bread is what the doc* ordered!"

*gastroenterologist's services are not included in the offer.

 

[john_]

Not just Russia. The 1060 3GB was the budget card to have during that time.

It was a scam. Half memory, cut down core compared to the 6GB version while retaining the same model name. RX 580 with 8GB or VRAM was at the same level or even better than GTX 1060 6GB. RX 570 with an extra GB of VRAM was a better, more future proof option than the GTX 1060 3GB, while selling cheaper. Even the older RX 480 8GB VRAM was a better option and that 3GB 1060, probably also selling cheaper than the 1060 3GB when it was released. GTX 1060 3GB was an option only if someone was going to use it for 12 months at most and then sell it, taking advantage that Nvidia cards retain their value in the second hand market, even when they are bad value. Probably it is an option today, as a PhysX card, for those wanting PhysX support, to use it alongside a Blackwell card or an AMD card.

 

[lexluthermiester]

It was a scam.

No, your statement is a scam. The 1060 3GB was an excellent budget card, full effing stop. Just stop with your nonsense.

 

[R0H1T]

Seems the never released 4050, but in Blackwell edition and 128-bit memory interface instead of 96-bit:

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050 Specs

NVIDIA AD107, 2640 MHz, 2560 Cores, 80 TMUs, 32 ROPs, 6144 MB GDDR6, 2250 MHz, 96 bit

www.techpowerup.com

Edit: Meh, forget that. It seems the X050 are almost carbon copies generation after generation.

Except the original(?) Maxwell 750/Ti which is more like today's 5060/Ti

Of course influencers & YTers weren't peddling 3k cards to drug game addicts back then so there's that!

 

[Macro Device]

Half memory, cut down core compared to the 6GB version while retaining the same model name

...and being a lot cheaper. 6 GB version wasn't worth it, it was too close to 1070 in price.
RX GPUs are fine and dandy but they ain't exactly the best power efficiency. Also they weren't better value, they mostly were a little more expensive than 1060s. So perhaps in Greece it was daft to buy 1060; in Russia it wasn't.

 

[tommo1982]

For an ITX I'd use A380, if it's not for gaming. It is a 75W card, perfect for small form factors. Gaming I'd go with 5060Ti or 9060XT 16GB. 5050 makes little sense.

 

[Scattergrunt]

GDDR6 & GB207, still 250 MSRP? Okay NVIDIA.

 

[dgianstefani]

It was a scam. Half memory, cut down core compared to the 6GB version while retaining the same model name. RX 580 with 8GB or VRAM was at the same level or even better than GTX 1060 6GB. RX 570 with an extra GB of VRAM was a better, more future proof option than the GTX 1060 3GB, while selling cheaper. Even the older RX 480 8GB VRAM was a better option and that 3GB 1060, probably also selling cheaper than the 1060 3GB when it was released. GTX 1060 3GB was an option only if someone was going to use it for 12 months at most and then sell it, taking advantage that Nvidia cards retain their value in the second hand market, even when they are bad value. Probably it is an option today, as a PhysX card, for those wanting PhysX support, to use it alongside a Blackwell card or an AMD card.

Show me the slot powered RX580

Except the original(?) Maxwell 750/Ti which is more like today's 5060/Ti

Of course influencers & YTers weren't peddling 3k cards to drug game addicts back then so there's that!

750/1050 Ti 75 W cards the GOAT. Slap in a second hand office pc and boom decent gaming rig for less than $200.

 

[bonehead123]

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5050 Uses Slower GDDR6 Memory

But of course it does, it's just another way for nGreediya to cut their BOM costs, and still slink out a barely usable card for whatever they think people will pay for it AND be able to say they have a "budget" model, targeted specifically at those users who don't know any better or simply don't care, as long as it has that nGreediya label on it, they can say they are part of the "kewl crowd"...

All the other stuff cited in this thread notwithstanding, it's just noise IMO

 

[Onasi]

Not just Russia. The 1060 3GB was the budget card to have during that time.

Yeah, people act as if budget GPUs aren’t a hot commodity everywhere in the world. Macro Device brought up prices in Russia, but these days I would say that wishing for attainable GPUs is kind of a global concern. Certainly, what I hear about constantly rising living costs from my American acquaintances doesn’t paint the picture of every USA citizen being a baller buying up 5090s and burning 100 dolla bills for heating.

 

[JustBenching]

...and being a lot cheaper. 6 GB version wasn't worth it, it was too close to 1070 in price.
RX GPUs are fine and dandy but they ain't exactly the best power efficiency. Also they weren't better value, they mostly were a little more expensive than 1060s. So perhaps in Greece it was daft to buy 1060; in Russia it wasn't.

It was daft in Greece, got both the 3gb and the 6gb 1060s, they both run out of GPU before they run out of vram.

 

[robb]

"Nvidia is preparing to launch a new lower mid-range graphics card"

LOL in what world would this thing be considered mid-range? 50 class is never mid-range and this is pathetic even for a 50 class so it's low end garbage at best.