8 cores for multi tasking ?

[MightyNerdy93]

Hey guys
is 8 cores cpu like the 9700x will be enough for light gaming , video editing , streaming ?
im thinking about this cpu because i dont need the 9800x3d but the base clock is only 3.8 so idk

thanks guys

 

[yfn_ratchet]

Streaming/video editing can depend more on your GPU more than your CPU, as modern editing and streaming software software offloads a lot of the work to the GPU's hardware encode/decode engines and video memory. A modern 8-core CPU like the Ryzen 7 9700X would do just fine for lighter streaming/video production workloads, assuming you have a sufficiently up-to-date GPU (RTX 2070/RX 7600/Arc A750). In terms of games, the 9700X can handle anything you can throw at it, albeit not as well as its X3D counterpart.

 

[Macro Device]

Light gaming can even be done on an i3-10100. Well, depends on how light. Some games don't even require an i3 and bode well with Pentium processors.
Video editing... AFAIK it's mostly done with a GPU anyway so 9700X should suffice.
Streaming is also mostly done on a GPU so... Yeah, this one will serve you just fine. Unless for some reason you wanna throw the best quality possible, then 8 cores, even that fast, ain't nuff. But I'd rather use the GPU encoder because it's so much cheaper on performance and doesn't ruin image quality that bad anymore.

For example, I use an i5-12400F which is significantly more relaxed than 9700X. In whatever game I play I can reach triple digit worth of FPS if I lax the settings enough for my GPU to catch up. Yes, GPU is my limiting factor for the most part. 9700X is enough for hardcore competitive gaming (sure, X3D gives more edge but if you lose with a 9700X it's still a skill issue) or whatever AAA experience as of now.

P.S. I purposefully didn't account games like Microsoft Flying Simulator because these games run like shit on everything.

 

[_roman_]

8 Cores with 16 Threads

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I'm happy with my ryzen 7600x in windows 11 pro and gaming with radeon 7800Xt in WHQD. No issues.

6 core ryzen 7600x is similar as fast as the 8 core previous ryzen 5800x in may 2023.

More ryzen Cores or 9800X3d are most likely needed for high end graphic card gaming and some workloads. I'm close to hit my 20 years gentoo installation date. I compile a lot and I do not see any issues - regardless windows 11 pro or gnu gentoo linux.

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you may look in the software you will be using and the operating system. you may check if that software and operating system than can use e.g. cuda from nvidia or similar features.

 

[hat]

GPU powered transcoding isn't what you want if you want the top quality possible. There's going to be a compromise somewhere. You'll need more bitrate to reach the same quality as CPU driven transcoding, or if you stay at the same bitrate, quality will suffer. It probably doesn't matter so much unless you're going for the top quality possible, or the best compression (less bitrate) for a given quality target. I sure wouldn't use it to rip a DVD and store on my Plex server. So, if you're a stickler for top quality or the best compression, get a beefier CPU like the 9950x. It's pricy, but it's the best way to crunch through even the latest, heaviest games and do CPU transcoding for your stream.

 

[cvaldes]

Hey guys
is 8 cores cpu like the 9700x will be enough for light gaming , video editing , streaming ?
im thinking about this cpu because i dont need the 9800x3d but the base clock is only 3.8 so idk

Kids have been editing 4K video on their smartphones for about 10 years. Whatever computer you buy today will be able to handle it.

Don't worry about clock frequencies for your usage case. Only dorkwads care about that.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Solid CPU, don't worry about the base clock, it runs faster than that. If you need help putting a build together, just drop us a budget and we'll help you cook something nice. Sometimes, with careful budget planning, you may even be able to grab that 9800X3D

 

[MightyNerdy93]

thanks guys

I wanted to add that im playing mosltly comp games which i know that are cpu heavier
i'm willing to pair this cpu with the 5070ti (i thought about the 5080 but the price is omg)
i also gonna use a 32 4k oled monitor 24hz

so one comment here said that i dont need to lay on my gpu so much regarding streaming

 

[AleXXX666]

Hey guys
is 8 cores cpu like the 9700x will be enough for light gaming , video editing , streaming ?
im thinking about this cpu because i dont need the 9800x3d but the base clock is only 3.8 so idk

thanks guys

you think right. But, don't look at base clock on modern CPUs which have "turbo boost" (or, "factory auto overclock").
https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/desktops/ryzen/9000-series/amd-ryzen-7-9700x.html - Max. Boost Clock - Up to 5.5 GHz
https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/desktops/ryzen/9000-series/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d.html - Max. Boost Clock - Up to 5.2 GHz
So, the clock all cores will run on X3D marketing prnstar is even lower than on "normal" 9700X.
In all other things, these two are SAME, but, price difference between them is.. a good "medium" motherboard or good 64 GB 2-sticks RAM kit.
Even 12-corer 9900X is IN BETWEEN them in terms of price, think about performance other than in FEW GAMES which are "optimized" for "3D cache".

thanks guys

I wanted to add that im playing mosltly comp games which i know that are cpu heavier
i'm willing to pair this cpu with the 5070ti (i thought about the 5080 but the price is omg)
i also gonna use a 32 4k oled monitor 24hz

so one comment here said that i dont need to lay on my gpu so much regarding streaming

i've done a quick google for the task you want.
little review:

CPU streaming has better video quality, but more impact on the internal computer latency while gaming.

GPU streaming has worse video quality, but way less impact on the computer latency while gaming.

Also consider opening the game before starting the stream and take a look at the taskmanager, if the cpu is at very high usage, let's say 80 to 90 % then it would be better to use the gpu for streaming and vice versa.

If there is a game using almost all of the gpu resources, then it would be better to use the cpu for streaming.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Twitch/comments/128v8vp/should_i_stream_from_my_cpu_or_gpu

https://www.cclonline.com/page/streaming-pc-buying-guide/#:~:text=Monitors%20IPS%20Monitors-,Does%20streaming%20use%20CPU%20or%20GPU%3F,type%20of%20encoding%20you%20choose.

I tried streaming once, though, I DON'T FCKN GET HOW TO USE OBS.
I ended up using Windows Xbox game bar or whatsever lol. That time I learned hard that CPU could be 100% with streaming so game will lag lol. So yes, GPU was preferred. It was generic "720p", not fancy "4K" stuff lmfao. GPU native tools are also WAY EZ than OBS in terms of "average blonde usage" - Nvidia Shadowplay or AMD ReLive.

 

[phanbuey]

... in FEW GAMES which are "optimized" for "3D cache".

What? There's no games optimized for 3D cache - 3D cache is faster in pretty much every game by about 30% unless you're GPU bottlenecked. Theres a tiny handful of games that don't benefit from cache but they're outliers.

If you can swing a 9800x3d then great but if you're playing on a 5070ti in 4k then it's not really worth - might as well grab the 9700x and spend the rest of the money on stepping up to a 5080.

For 4k 240HZ the GPU matters so much more than anything else - you will be pretty much GPU bottlenecked the whole time so a 5080 that you OC the pants off of actually makes sense even though it costs a kidney basically get the GPU - budget board, budget 6000 cl30 kit, 9700x, budget everything else and a 5080 will give you the best experience.

You can even get a 7700x (or even a 7700 - unlocked you can OC it) for alot less as well and that will also serve you well at 4k with that card -- it's not much slower than a 9700x at all.

You can juice a 7700 to stock 9700x speeds...

 

[hat]

so one comment here said that i dont need to lay on my gpu so much regarding streaming

The hit to your GPU performance from streaming should be very negligible. You're getting that performance (or not having to have an ultra beefy CPU) in return for giving up on some image quality and compression.

 

[JustBenching]

If you need more cores, go for intel, if you need the maximum gaming performance at 720p go for the 9800 x3d. I don't see a point going for the 9700x..

 

[AleXXX666]

What? There's no games optimized for 3D cache - 3D cache is faster in pretty much every game by about 30% unless you're GPU bottlenecked. Theres a tiny handful of games that don't benefit from cache but they're outliers.

If you can swing a 9800x3d then great but if you're playing on a 5070ti in 4k then it's not really worth - might as well grab the 9700x and spend the rest of the money on stepping up to a 5080.

For 4k 240HZ the GPU matters so much more than anything else - you will be pretty much GPU bottlenecked the whole time so a 5080 that you OC the pants off of actually makes sense even though it costs a kidney basically get the GPU - budget board, budget 6000 cl30 kit, 9700x, budget everything else and a 5080 will give you the best experience.

You can even get a 7700x (or even a 7700 - unlocked you can OC it) for alot less as well and that will also serve you well at 4k with that card -- it's not much slower than a 9700x at all.

You can juice a 7700 to stock 9700x speeds... - their base clock is identical.

 

[MightyNerdy93]

guys look , i feel like 8 cores will be great for me
im just looking to start streaming / create content
and if it will will go well for me , i always can upgrade the cpu to 12 or 16 cores

but how is the pairing of 9700x and 5070ti ?

i also saw some videos on yt that 5070ti is ok for 4k..

 

[lexluthermiester]

is 8 cores cpu like the 9700x will be enough for high end gaming , video editing , streaming ?

Corrected and yes the 9700X with a 5070ti will be a kick ass setup, even at 4k. Buy, build, enjoy!

 

[Waldorf]

@hat
lol wut?
not sure on what you base that, but encoding quality between gpu/cpu is the same, as long as i use the same settings for codec/container/res/bitrate/framerate/color etc.

 

[Melvis]

Short answer = Yes
Long answer = Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeessss