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LOL I'd love to see some real benchmark comparisons of the two CPUs.

10-core? That can't be cheap. How much would you bet it's more expensive (even substantially so) than a 5600x? Also, I know not all of those 10 cores are "performance" cores.
 
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Let's see - there were some SOTR benchmark leaks with tuned memory that looked very meh. That may have just been SOTR in an unoptimized environment or whatever.

Really excited to see these reviews... hoping for another e6300 :D.
 
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Judging CPUs by a single artificial benchmark isn't a time-honored way to comprehensively assess performance differences between models.

This is why thoughtful CPU review sites (e.g. Anandtech, Tom's Hardware) put each through a battery of tests to come up with some sort of consolidated score that still might be irrelevant to Joe Consumer.

Heck, some sites will even throw in performance-per-watt and performance-per-dollar comparisons to boot.

Even the "real world" office productivity test suites aren't an accurate representation of real world performance because everyone uses their PC differently. A typical office productivity test benchmark may include Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and Outlook routines. Well, guess what? I use Excel heavily (but no macros and I don't connect to databases these days) but I haven't opened a PowerPoint presentation for four years. I'll use Word a couple of times a year and MS Office 2019 Home & Student doesn't even include Outlook. Web browser benchmark? How many of them open 30 tabs? I rarely have more than 5-6 tabs open which makes me an oddity compared to many. I use Thunderbird as my primary Windows e-mail client. No office productivity test suite includes that application.
 
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There are 2 recent CPU-Z ‘leaks’ about 12600k, one with stock settings achieves ~47% higher MT score compared to 5600x and another overclocked (on W10?) ~50% higher. Even stock 12600k scores higher than 11900k and 5800x on CPU-Z MT, according to the rumor. I didn’t find the double score you mention.
 
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The original quote came from a social media account.

I'm not sure about everyone else here but I for one do not believe that everything on the Internet is 100% accurate.

It could be pure fanboy fabrication, it could be user error, it could be a golden sample, it could be FUD. There are dozens and dozens of other explanations on why or why not this result emerged.

Again, no one in their right mind would really judge a CPU (or any other PC component) by a single benchmark.

CPU-Z doesn't even run very long -- another strike against it.
 
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Ill just leave this hear

 
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I didn’t find the double score you mention.
That's because it doesn't exist. That's the thing.

The i5-11600k has a MT score of 4468 in CPU-Z. The 5600X has a score of 4813.
A score of 7058 (according to that leak) doesn't "double" these scores. It falls 2000 points short.
Those conclusions are ridiculous.

Ill just leave this hear
So a laptop i9 is slower than desktop i9. Duh.


Ha!

 
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That's because it doesn't exist. That's the thing.

The i5-11600k has a MT score of 4468 in CPU-Z. The 5600X has a score of 4813.
A score of 7058 (according to that leak) doesn't "double" these scores. It falls 2000 points short.
Those conclusions are ridiculous.


So a laptop i9 is slower than desktop i9. Duh.


Ha!


Your missing the point and you didnt see the Video then as it shows that the 11980HK gets beat by the AMD 5900HX but they show that the 11980HK is faster which is false, like 99.9% of leaked benchmarks current are.
 
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Serious Intel fanboy article. Dunno if it's deliberate or just plain dumb.

The source is @TUM_APISAK on Twitter. He is definitely not a fanboy of anything. If you follow him, you'll get to see early bench runs of just about everything. He was there for the Zen 3 early benchmarks. He just posts the numbers and whatever he can about the config.

For anyone actually interested in these things, he is one worth following. Most recent tweet below :

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12600K = 2x 5600x​

As it should. It is high time wintel moves on from 14nm.
And no, it is not a fanboy article. It's an article about early test results. That is all.
 

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20% faster, double the cores, triple the wattage

Even the leaked numbers dont look that amazing:
15% faster in AOTS (sure, thats good)
In MT they mention it beating the 5800x... it's 2.1% faster than mine (all core OC makes that score faster, i'm just using PBO)


Thing is, it's a 10 core 16 thread chip.
IT HAD BETTER F*CKING BEAT a 6 CORE 12 THREAD CHIP IN MULTI THREADED.


Intel:
10 core 150W* chip faster in multi threaded than competing 6 core 65W chip!
*Throws confetti*


*They say 150W, but i fear 250W
 
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20% faster, double the cores, triple the wattage

Even the leaked numbers dont look that amazing:
15% faster in AOTS (sure, thats good)
In MT they mention it beating the 5800x... it's 2.1% faster than mine (all core OC makes that score faster, i'm just using PBO)


Thing is, it's a 10 core 16 thread chip.
IT HAD BETTER F*CKING BEAT a 6 CORE 12 THREAD CHIP IN MULTI THREADED.


Intel:
10 core 150W* chip faster in multi threaded than competing 6 core 65W chip!
*Throws confetti*


*They say 150W, but i fear 250W

12400, a 6-core 65W chip, is also beating the 5600X.

12600K also beats 5800X from what we know.
 

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12400, a 6-core 65W chip, is also beating the 5600X.

12600K also beats 5800X from what we know.
That one should be a fair comparison, being 6 core 12 thread (no E cores)
If its 15% faster per core, lets hope its 15% faster overall and a good competitor


I also hope these scores dont require top tier motherboards and high end RAM - i *want* intel to be genuinely faster than AMD, so that AMD can do the same thing again with AM5 (I'm a consumer, i want competition)

I just cant help the sarcasm from shitty marketing
 
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20% faster, double the cores, triple the wattage

Even the leaked numbers dont look that amazing:
15% faster in AOTS (sure, thats good)
In MT they mention it beating the 5800x... it's 2.1% faster than mine (all core OC makes that score faster, i'm just using PBO)


Thing is, it's a 10 core 16 thread chip.
IT HAD BETTER F*CKING BEAT a 6 CORE 12 THREAD CHIP IN MULTI THREADED.


Intel:
10 core 150W* chip faster in multi threaded than competing 6 core 65W chip!
*Throws confetti*


*They say 150W, but i fear 250W

Did you check out the prices for the new Intel CPU's/RAM/ and Motherboards in AUS? talk about crazy expensive! $550 for 2X16GB DDR5.....umm no thank you! ontop of a $600 Mobo just to support it and thats the cheapest! yikes! DDR4 is a good few hundred $$ less though.
 
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The source is @TUM_APISAK on Twitter. He is definitely not a fanboy of anything.
I'm not talking about the original source. I'm talking about the author of that article: Arjun Krishna Lal.
All TUM_APISAK posted was the figures. The interpretation should have been done correctly.
And no, it is not a fanboy article. It's an article about early test results. That is all.
It intentionally makes it look like Intel's results are better than they actually are (saying 2x multithread when there's a shortfall of 2000 points - close to 25%).
 
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Did you check out the prices for the new Intel CPU's/RAM/ and Motherboards in AUS? talk about crazy expensive! $550 for 2X16GB DDR5.....umm no thank you! ontop of a $600 Mobo just to support it and thats the cheapest! yikes! DDR4 is a good few hundred $$ less though.
about the same in Canada. I know one set of DDR5 for $360 but motherboards are stupid expensive.

I'll wait till the premium is gone and prices are reasonable.
 
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Be warned - that could be a while. I'd say 2 or so years.

Everyone is eager to recoup the financial losses they had because of the pandemic. I don't see prices returning to normal on retail any time soon even if the prices on wholesale level come down to reasonable levels.

When I got my 3060Ti I got it at close to MSRP, but retailers were already demanding a markup of $100-$150 (this was end of December).
 
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Be warned - that could be a while. I'd say 2 or so years.

Everyone is eager to recoup the financial losses they had because of the pandemic. I don't see prices returning to normal on retail any time soon even if the prices on wholesale level come down to reasonable levels.

When I got my 3060Ti I got it at close to MSRP, but retailers were already demanding a markup of $100-$150 (this was end of December).

That's fine. I barely game anyway these days. Mostly play retro games to bring me back to good times when games were actually good. I dont need a powerful computer at all. My machine is already over powered (10700KF, 32GB DDR4 3000 RAM, etc).

I just love building machines. And honestly, if they want me to stop with ridiculous prices, I am fine with that.
 

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I just love building machines. And honestly, if they want me to stop with ridiculous prices, I am fine with that.
Thats me!



One day my 3090 will be as fast as a 5060ti and a ryzen 8600x, and if all i can get is a budget upgrade at that time due to high prices, that's what i'll get
I just love building the damn things
 
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I'm a stickler for performance and upgradeability, but if you gave me money to buy parts and just build something, what I would love to build is a mini-ITX system with good cooling and performance, and even aesthetics if possible. It'd be in the category of "something different" as I've always just done ATX with mid tower cases. The main hurdle of having mini-ITX systems is that they're expensive because of the lower market share, plus upgradeability is limited and the systems are hard to cool so you can't push them like you can a system with a beefy air/liquid cooler.
 
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Hence why I'm waiting for the next APU's using RDNA2. Good kit of DDR5 and maybe we can get some great gaming performance. Build a small gaming machine that way.
 

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Benchmark Scores I don't quite know how i managed to get such a top tier PC, I am not rich.
I'm a stickler for performance and upgradeability, but if you gave me money to buy parts and just build something, what I would love to build is a mini-ITX system with good cooling and performance, and even aesthetics if possible. It'd be in the category of "something different" as I've always just done ATX with mid tower cases. The main hurdle of having mini-ITX systems is that they're expensive because of the lower market share, plus upgradeability is limited and the systems are hard to cool so you can't push them like you can a system with a beefy air/liquid cooler.
On topic: Man these intels are gunna be bad for ITX, unless its the variants with far, far less cores

Off topic-ish:
ITX done to your own personal specs is a *dream*
Rev 1: 2700x + RX 470

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(Really bad lighting rn as its 11PM here, but i added an EK AIO and a 1070ti)

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