2011v3 MATX woes

cdawall · Dec 22, 2016

So I currently have GB X99M-Gaming 5 in my daily/gaming rig. It works great with the CPU@4.5 and a single RX480. After adding a second RX480 to the mix I get constant shut downs under load. I tried fans over the MOSFET heatsinks (board has a heatpipe connecting the chipset/mosfet coolers) and it prolonged the fail time, but didn't fix it. I can run about an hour and the system shuts off, sits for about 30 seconds and powers back up. GB support responded in a timely manner, but have no fix for the issue.

I assume this is a power delivery issue on the board, something is getting hot that shouldn't and I am popping an OCP or overtemp for a component. At this point I am going to just give up on the GB board. Of the MATX boards available am I safe to assume the Asus X99-M WS is going to not have this issue? It has 2, 8 pins for the CPU and a 6 pin for the PCI-e.

I am tired of this non-working crossfire nonsense. Adding the second card caused more issues than I could have imagined. The cards test good in another non-GB MATX board. Ironically my brothers rig with the same motherboard has the same issue and this happens with the video cards at stock or overclocked and the CPU at stock or overclocked on both rigs.

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Ferrum Master · Dec 22, 2016

Tried actually upping some bridge voltages?

cdawall · Dec 22, 2016

I have. My issue is it doesn't work with everything bone stock, that means there is an issue to me.

Bill_Bright · Dec 22, 2016

I would open up the side panel and blast a desk fan in there. If it holds then, you can probably assume/confirm something else is getting hot. And as always, I would swap in a known good PSU to rule the current one out.

cdawall · Dec 22, 2016

Bill_Bright said:
I would open up the side panel and blast a desk fan in there. If it holds then, you can probably assume/confirm something else is getting hot. And as always, I would swap in a known good PSU to rule the current one out.

Basically did that took a 200+ CFM 120MM and pointed it at the board that prolonged failure time (went to about an hour vs 30+45 minutes). This same failure happened with my TPQ1000w which is currently powering a higher wattage AMD build and the new Seasonic platinum 750w, which isn't even getting hot enough to kick the fan on...

This same failure happened in my brothers build with these cards and trying with one of his lower wattage XFX cards. (He has a very similar setup 5930K, 16GB, NVME SSD, XFX 480, 1000w antec)

Bill_Bright · Dec 23, 2016

So it happened on your system, then you moved a card to your brother's system and it happened there? That seems to point to one of those cards and not the motherboard to me.

cdawall · Dec 23, 2016

Bill_Bright said:
So it happened on your system, then you moved a card to your brother's system and it happened there? That seems to point to one of those cards and not the motherboard to me.

The cards work fine on my 990FX board. Brother has the exact same GB X99M, same issue existed with a pair of 290's, but I assumed it was a PSU issue.

Bill_Bright · Dec 23, 2016

Well, as we used to say in my old radio maintenance days, "it's not gremlins, it's 'FM'".

Not for frequency modulation but for a certain type of magic!

cdawall · Dec 23, 2016

Bill_Bright said:
Well, as we used to say in my old radio maintenance days, "it's not gremlins, it's 'FM'".

Not for frequency modulation but for a certain type of magic!

That is the first thing you have said that made me legitimately chuckle. PFM is how the planes I worked on flew if you asked any of my fellow maintainers. That is that same kind of magic, but in its purest form.

eidairaman1 · Dec 23, 2016

cdawall said:
That is the first thing you have said that made me legitimately chuckle. PFM is how the planes I worked on flew if you asked any of my fellow maintainers. That is that same kind of magic, but in its purest form.

Same With Mine lol

Ferrum Master · Dec 23, 2016

Few things.

Did try only a single card in the bottom slot? Does it black out?

Did you try to switch to PCIE2?

Last options are only hardmods...

but IMHO... GB knows what's with the board for sure. It has two revisions. What's yours?

cdawall · Dec 23, 2016

Mine is first gen. According to the gb tech support second revision did nothing for the power plane.

Card in the last slot has the same issue at least on my brothers mine is useless thats a 4x slot with the 5820k.

I haven't tried on pcie 2.0 I'm curious if it works. Probably the same issue. I am strongly thinking about just buying the Asus board and moving on.

Ferrum Master · Dec 23, 2016

cdawall said:
Mine is first gen. According to the gb tech support second revision did nothing for the power plane.

It is GB manner... it could be PCB layer fix also, that you cannot see...

Asus will be a solution... It should be... In your place I would bite GB's head as you have two boards with the same problem and demanded a new board that actually works!

cdawall · Dec 23, 2016

I actually went through their tech support and while they did try their best for troubleshooting the issue and responded back quickly all he could do was say send it in.

eidairaman1 · Dec 23, 2016

Ferrum Master said:
It is GB manner... it could be PCB layer fix also, that you cannot see...

Asus will be a solution... It should be... In your place I would bite GB's head as you have two boards with the same problem and demanded a new board that actually works!

Considering GB has numerous Revisions, it makes me feel uneasy about them.

@cdawall, bud I'd buy the Asus board and Then I would send the GA board in for RMA, might be worth a shot.

Folterknecht · Dec 23, 2016

Before you do the following contact GB techsupport and get their approval (warrenty voiding ...)

demount the the power delivery heatseaks via the scews on the back side and check if the thermal pads make good contact with the elements below. Before reassembling the whole thing apply nonconductive TIM between the pads and the elements (very small amounts) and tighten the thing down real good.

cdawall · Dec 23, 2016

Folterknecht said:
Before you do the following contact GB techsupport and get their approval (warrenty voiding ...)

demount the the power delivery heatseaks via the scews on the back side and check if the thermal pads make good contact with the elements below. Before reassembling the whole thing apply nonconductive TIM between the pads and the elements (very small amounts) and tighten the thing down real good.

After I order the Asus I'm going to strip the board and see if I can get it happy with two cards.

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2011v3 MATX woes

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

Ferrum Master

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

Bill_Bright

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

Bill_Bright

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

Bill_Bright

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman

Ferrum Master

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

Ferrum Master

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman

Folterknecht

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

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