The board makers you mean, since AMD doesn't sell boards
Can't you sneak south of the border to get one cheaper?
Smuggle it back over inside your bear skin coat? Just cover it up in some maple syrup first so the customs dogs can't smell that new motherboard smell...
Well I first gotta wait until the border opens up again at the end of next month. The US agents don't care, unless you're of central Asian descent with violent Islamist leanings. The Canuckistan Gestapo, on the other hand, will send you inside to pay your taxes even if you literally have nothing to pay for. I once showed the booth some receipts for gas and food not exceeding $100, upon which the agent acted all alarmed and sent me inside. The others at the counter were confused as to why I was there with no actual outstanding balance and wasting their time. Take it up with the fatass that sent me here, then - he clearly believes he's above the law.
Sad that I should live a literal 5 minutes from the border and not have driven to the USA once after that incident.
MSI x570 Godlike - don’t flame me for overkill reasons
Just gonna share my latest idle temps. I do think everything is just too high in general. Very funny though is that it won't change with the side glass of the case off. So when I don't have a case/airflow issue, why are they so "+high at idle. I'm very curious if it will change with the new board or stay the same:
- [AMBIENCE TEMP: ca. 25°C]
- CPU: 50°C (CPU Core V: 1.406V)
- CPU Package: 62°C
- GPU: 60°C - it is a MSI 2070S. The card has a zero fan profile so it is normal that it's a bit high with no fans, but there are ppl with the same card reporting ca. 15°C lower idle temps
- Motherboard: 48°C
- Chipset: 70°C
- DIMM's: ca. 44°C
- M.2: 60°C (remember in the thread that once it was down to a normal 35°C? it is just fishy
- Upper case temp: 35°C (temp probe)
Your idle temps still look like everything has a +10C offset for some reason. You say that you don't have an airflow issue, and you certainly do have a lot of fans, but have you actually stuck your hand in your case to see how much air your fans are actually pushing? My case is tiny by comparison and I run a silent case fan profile but with just 2 NF-A12x25s as intake and 1 NF-A9 as exhaust, my System1 sensor is always sub-40C at idle, my DIMMS are below 35C, my NVMe drive at 35C.
My 2060S FE doesn't have fan stop so it idles at 30C, but my older 1070 in my other PC does. It idles at 44-50C with the fans at 0 rpm.
On the topic of idle temps, I've been revisiting my undervolting settings lately, because there appears to be an inexplicable, significant difference in idle temperatures with and without undervolting. At full load on stock settings, the Vcore it feeds the chip gives me between 0.025-0.05V of extra voltage to play with, so I always set -0.075V with Turbo LLC to try and minimize droop at load to where it's just enough to stay stable, without dropping any benchmark scores.
From what the sensors say, it shouldn't have any impact on idle behaviour. Average Voltage in RM is still ~0.2V and cores still sleep as they should, the temperature that RM reads is also about the same (similar to Tdie, I think). But on stock settings, idle temps regularly stay up in the 45-50C range on the Tctl/Tdie sensor, whereas with the undervolt, the temps are consistently between 30-40C and almost never peaking above that without some sort of activity going on, much closer to the more stable and lower Tdie and Taverage readings.
The conventional wisdom to avoid a spiky, loud idle is to close HWInfo and add hysteresis, but neither of those tips make a difference for me without undervolting. With an undervolt going on, they work like a charm.
So regardless of how most owners disapprove of undervolting because they think it always has to come at the cost of performance (clocks are definitely going to start dropping if you ax -0.1V off of Vcore without any LLC compensation), as long as your chip has extra breathing room at stock and you know what you're doing, there seems to be a definite benefit here. I just can't explain why there's a difference based on the sensor data. Yours still sounds like an airflow issue, however.
What do I miss?
