4 years old system upgrade

[gamingpc1123]

I want to upgrade my 4 years old system, with new CPU and GPU. Right now i have ASUS PRIME B450M-A motherboard, 16gb DDR 4, Ryzen 5 3600 and GTX 1660ti 6GB and i have normal SSD. With this setup i can run Cyberpunk on high 1080p 45-50 fps and i can play most of new AAA games around 50 fps on high with this system. I was thinking to upgrade my CPU to Ryzen 5 5600x, my GPU to RTX 3060 12gb, my SSD to m2 and add 16 more GB of ram. Will this upgrade boost my FPS significant? And can this motherboard accept RTX 3060? Thanks for advices.

 

[nomdeplume]

Speaking very generally as AMD is not my forte. Also without awareness of your geographic location and pricing.

Use outside of gaming will highly impact any thoughts on a suitable upgrade within AM4. RAM speed, leaving alone matched pairs for the moment, is another consideration. GPU should be accepted but again we don't know your fps target. Will you be upgrading your monitor at any point in the near future?

 

[gamingpc1123]

My FPS target is 65-70 fps on high. I dont think there is any logic buying 1440p monitor with this setup.

 

[dgianstefani]

My FPS target is 65-70 fps on high. I dont think there is any logic buying 1440p monitor with this setup.

Upgrade GPU not CPU.

Get a 4060 Ti instead of a 3060.

For low FPS target like that, you don't need a stronger CPU.

SSD upgrade is a good idea.

RAM maybe not as may be better to save cash for new platform eventually.

 

[Princess Garnet]

In general, I'd say the graphics card needs upgraded way, way more than the CPU. Zen 2 is aging now, but it's still good enough until you get into the very high end graphics cards.

If you still want to upgrade the CPU later/along with it, I'd go with no less than the 5700X3D (or even the 5800X3D). The reason for that is because making a single generation change often isn't large enough of a change to be worthwhile, but the X3D models are even more of an uplift on top of that. That's also why I';d suggest considering the 5800X3D as well even though it's a worse value in a vacuum. You're not starting from nothing. You're starting from a 3600X. And the 5700X3D is ~7% to 8% slower than the 5800X3D. So relatively to your starting point, there's going to be a bigger relative difference the 5800X3D brings. That might make it worth considering over the 5700X3D if you're going to upgrade on AM4 at all, but I'd only look at the CPU after you focus on the GPU.

For gaming, a good SATA SSD is enough. Most games won't see a big difference from NVMe ones because they're not limited by sequential speed s much. So if you need to trim upgrade ideas to free up budget for elsewhere, that's the place to do it. I'd only get a new SSD if your current SATA one lacks DRAM and is a lower end model or something.

 

[GerKNG]

5700X3D, 32GB of RAM and maybe check the used market for something like a 6600XT, 6700XT or a 3060 Ti.

 

[Ruru]

5700X3D, 32GB of RAM and maybe check the used market for something like a 6600XT, 6700XT or a 3060 Ti.

You said exactly what I was going to say. though IF OP has good luck and he can snag a faster used GPU, then why not. With some luck, a cheap RX 6800 (XT) or a RTX 3080 can be a thing.

Upgrade GPU not CPU.

Get a 4060 Ti instead of a 3060.

For low FPS target like that, you don't need a stronger CPU.

SSD upgrade is a good idea.

RAM maybe not as may be better to save cash for new platform eventually.

Dunno.... 3600 is a bit slow at 1080p these days. I saw a noticeable difference when I upgraded from 3600 to 5800X, even at 4K. I had a 6700 XT as GPU.

 

[Macro Device]

Why do y'all recommend sidegrades? That's not even one half of a measure.
I'd go for an RTX 4070, preferrably Super. Later, when the buck is right, I'd swap the rest to Ryzen 9600 + 32 GB dual channel DDR5 of reasonable speed (6 GHz CL30ish for example). This will provide with another five years without any need to upgrade if appetites don't increase.

NB: RTX 4070 Super is more watt-happy than 1660 Ti so check your PSU before doing anything please.

 

[GerKNG]

well i don't know how much money he has. And he already said what he wants to achieve.
and when someone already comes with a low midrange build when it was new back then, i don't expect that a 1000 dollar upgrade is in the budget. that's why i rather go for the best value option for his needs.

a ~80% GPU performance bump and a drop in replacement to a CPU on par with a 12900k is not a sidegrade in the slightest.

 

[dgianstefani]

Why do y'all recommend sidegrades? That's not even one half of a measure.
I'd go for an RTX 4070, preferrably Super. Later, when the buck is right, I'd swap the rest to Ryzen 9600 + 32 GB dual channel DDR5 of reasonable speed (6 GHz CL30ish for example). This will provide with another five years without any need to upgrade if appetites don't increase.

NB: RTX 4070 Super is more watt-happy than 1660 Ti so check your PSU before doing anything please.

4060Ti is twice as fast as 1660Ti

 

[R0H1T]

And also nearly twice as bad value for money! If budget is an issue how about buying used/refurb parts?

The 4060/ti is extremely poor VFM even after so long of their release. At this point in their lifecycle they should've been heavily discounted, but the "AI" waves have made Nvidia even bolder with brazen theft

 

[DaemonForce]

Keep in mind the upgrade order that you're doing.
There are very serious problems with the R5 3600 and trying to pair it off to some 30xx Ti series or mainstream-flagship RX 7000 series cards.
To date I still don't have an explanation for it and it's getting old super fast.
Could probably pick up an accelerator and use that if money is tight.

 

[Macro Device]

4060Ti is twice as fast as 1660Ti

Which is just a tad better than a half measure. I don't see any valid reasoning behind upgrading to GPUs weaker than 300% your current one, unless you get paid for your calculating power.

 

[Why_Me]

I want to upgrade my 4 years old system, with new CPU and GPU. Right now i have ASUS PRIME B450M-A motherboard, 16gb DDR 4, Ryzen 5 3600 and GTX 1660ti 6GB and i have normal SSD. With this setup i can run Cyberpunk on high 1080p 45-50 fps and i can play most of new AAA games around 50 fps on high with this system. I was thinking to upgrade my CPU to Ryzen 5 5600x, my GPU to RTX 3060 12gb, my SSD to m2 and add 16 more GB of ram. Will this upgrade boost my FPS significant? And can this motherboard accept RTX 3060? Thanks for advices.

In case it hasn't already been asked on here, what country are you located and what is your budget?

 

[tussinman]

My FPS target is 65-70 fps on high. I dont think there is any logic buying 1440p monitor with this setup.

I want to upgrade my 4 years old system, with new CPU and GPU. Right now i have ASUS PRIME B450M-A motherboard, 16gb DDR 4, Ryzen 5 3600 and GTX 1660ti 6GB and i have normal SSD. With this setup i can run Cyberpunk on high 1080p 45-50 fps and i can play most of new AAA games around 50 fps on high with this system. I was thinking to upgrade my CPU to Ryzen 5 5600x, my GPU to RTX 3060 12gb, my SSD to m2 and add 16 more GB of ram. Will this upgrade boost my FPS significant? And can this motherboard accept RTX 3060? Thanks for advices.

You made a thread yesterday saying you had a 5700X with 32GB of ram and that you wanted to spend up to $550 Euros on a 4070 super so you could play 1440p ?

You need to figure out which scenario is correct and what do you actual want ? (your 2 threads are complete opposites).


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[Ruru]

Which is just a tad better than a half measure. I don't see any valid reasoning behind upgrading to GPUs weaker than 300% your current one, unless you get paid for your calculating power.

Totally agree. 4060 Ti is a pure joke and it's hella overpriced.

 

[Macro Device]

4060 Ti is a pure joke and it's hella overpriced.

Even if it was two Franklins, it'd still be a mediocre upgrade. And not because of 8 GB VRAM or whatnot but because it's not "wow" level faster.

 

[Ruru]

Even if it was two Franklins, it'd still be a mediocre upgrade. And not because of 8 GB VRAM or whatnot but because it's not "wow" level faster.

And the 16GB version is just waste of money. It lacks performance, not VRAM.

AMD has the same issue with RX 7600 vs 7600 XT

 

[Macro Device]

And the 16GB version is just waste of money. It lacks performance, not VRAM.

AMD has the same issue with RX 7600 vs 7600 XT

Once again, it's not about 4060 Ti per se. Isolated and sold for $200, it'd be an awesome value product. However, upgrading from 1660 Ti requires something faster than that. 1660 Ti isn't THAT far behind.

 

[Ruru]

Once again, it's not about 4060 Ti per se. Isolated and sold for $200, it'd be an awesome value product. However, upgrading from 1660 Ti requires something faster than that. 1660 Ti isn't THAT far behind.

Yeah, exactly.

Sucks that those mid-end cards aren't 200EUR like back in the day.

 

[Why_Me]

Once again, it's not about 4060 Ti per se. Isolated and sold for $200, it'd be an awesome value product. However, upgrading from 1660 Ti requires something faster than that. 1660 Ti isn't THAT far behind.

 

[Macro Device]

This isn't news. 131/61 is less than 300%.

 

[GamerGuy]

I'd say, a 5700X3D + 2x 16GB DDR4 3600CL16 RAM + XFX QICK319 RX 6750XT (which quite easily beats the RTX 3060 OP was looking at originally). I'd recently swapped the R9 5900X in my main rig to a R7 5700X3D, I do notice better framerate in a couple of games I play, as well as more consistent framerate in others (anecdotal) as I did not run any before/after tests. The 5900X isn't wasted though, it's in my 2nd rig....

 

[dgianstefani]

This isn't news. 131/61 is less than 300%.

So it doesn't fit your arbitrary requirements, this doesn't mean anything to the end user who has different requirements.

For most people, more than twice as fast counts as a considerable upgrade.

Especially considering going with the 4060 Ti does not increase their total system power consumption, but would actually reduce it if they frame limited to their refresh rate (60 FPS).

 

[Sithaer]

This isn't news. 131/61 is less than 300%.

When you are on a budget then 300% is kind of out of the realm of reality unless you find some really good second hand deal which doesn't happen everywhere. 'who made up that number anyway?'
I've upgraded from a GTX 1070 in 2022 'basically the same as a 1660 Ti/super' to my current RTX 3060 Ti and I've defo noticed that upgrade. 'that was the highest my budget allowed'