5600X3D reviews

[dgianstefani]

I used to enjoy his vids, and thought he was a good kid a few years ago.

But now the tone has changed.. I still watch, but I have disagreed with him more than once.

Good content, but a little more humility in his presentation and less assumption or jumping to conclusions would be good.

GN has fallen victim to being very popular, needs to be more grounded and careful with statements.

 

[LabRat 891]

all the hate towards Steve in this thread

Earned*
A lot like JayZ, but Steve *had* been genuinely trying to be honest. IDK wtf happened but:

1) many of their written case reviews (done by Patrick) were (are) excellent but switching over from written articles to videos sent them in a direction I personally don't care for. They really have moved away from case reviews which I personally believe was their bread and butter
2) GN has moved away from being a site to really creating Steve as an individual brand similar to Linus.
3) in doing so the videos seem to be more focused on creating outrage, as opposed to educating, in order to get views through clickbait headlines and length of video in order to create more ad views
4) their fake outrage over the techpowerup article (created two 20 minute videos out of it)
5) their article were they deemed most CPU cooler reviews to be flawed and not trusted but since GN are about to start testing coolers they can be trusted
6) in testing a certain intel CPU they had results that were not the same as other review sites using the same exact game, they refused to explain their review process on how they got those results
7) Steve went from not knowing the first thing about PSU to being a PSU expert in a matter of weeks
8) I don't care for Steve's antics in front of the camera

Now I will be the first to state most of these are personal reasons and Steve is hardly alone in his youtube "business practice" but when it comes to my cup of tea, I get to choose the tea leaves.

Yeah... That's a good list.
8) in particular; Steve sounds snide and negative about just about everything now. It wasn't that way just a few years ago.
Sure, we all can get a bit 'black pilled', but it's draining even listening to him, now (IMO).

 

[A Computer Guy]

Good content, but a little more humility in his presentation and less assumption or jumping to conclusions would be good.

GN has fallen victim to being very popular, needs to be more grounded and careful with statements.

Is it just me or is there a bit of a discrepancy in the GN video with respect to the DDR5 reference.

 

[deb]

Earned*
A lot like JayZ, but Steve *had* been genuinely trying to be honest. IDK wtf happened but:

Yeah... That's a good list.
8) in particular; Steve sounds snide and negative about just about everything now. It wasn't that way just a few years ago.
Sure, we all can get a bit 'black pilled', but it's draining even listening to him, now (IMO).

 

[dirtyferret]

all the hate towards Steve in this thread

I can't speak for the others but to me it's not hate. hate means you care and I don't care. I don't wish anything bad against the guy, I just don't watch his videos and his opinion doesn't carry any weight with me for the reasons I stated above.

 

[Sithaer]

Dunno, one can dislike a tech channel for whatever reason but imo GN/Steve does solid reviews and I do belive the numbers I see there when its about CPUs and GPUs rest I don't care much about anyway. 'Same with HWU, their mass review of mobos and whatever is crazy and I like those'
Jay and Linus I simply find entertaining at times and don't really watch them for the raw numbers.

Ofc when someting new is out and its reviewed my first place to check its here on TPU but I do like to have multiple sources especially if its something I might be interested in.

 

[SL2]

7) Steve went from not knowing the first thing about PSU to being a PSU expert in a matter of weeks

So, several people works with reviews at GN, but only one talks about it.. Come on, you must have figured out how that works?

Just because he's the guy in front of the camera doesn't mean he have to be an expert of everything. He can just as well present work done by others at GN. The videos clearly shows who does the most of the PSU testing, for instance.

https://www.kotaku.com.au/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2021/08/10/7aeb444a29e8d913c8fd51fc22cebb20.gif?quality=80&w=832

Jay and Linus I simply find entertaining at times and don't really watch them for the raw numbers.

Yeah, I'd never put Jay in the same category as GN. Jay seems way to average and random in what he's doing.

Linus is just hits for kids, where happy, annoying thumbnails is a priority (just like with mrbeast).
I don't doubt their knowledge, but the packaging is just wrong. Also, too many random subjects, like they've run out of ideas.

 

[dirtyferret]

So, several people works with reviews at GN, but only one talks about it.. Come on, you must have figured out how that works?

thanks captain obvious, I mean my decade in cable sports broadcasting didn't show me how production is actually done or anything. I just assumed Steve hit record on his phone and than quickly ran in front of the camera and did everything in one take. It's not like I mentioned patrick's work in case reviews at GN or anything like that.

Just because he's the guy in front of the camera doesn't mean he have to be an expert of everything.

no you don't, in fact this is W1zzards site yet he allows his reviewers to have their names on their individual reviews as opposed to his. In fact even Linus will bring out his reviewers on his show. Steve (or his ego) does little to none of that, he's in front of the camera all the time so he gets the blame. Otherwise he can explain who he brought on to do his reviews for him. Luckily he's brought Jon Gerow on a few times, if only steve would get out of the way and let Jon talk more.

https://www.kotaku.com.au/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2021/08/10/7aeb444a29e8d913c8fd51fc22cebb20.gif?quality=80&w=832

wow a link to another site, here's a link to corsair blowing up cheap PSUs

Perhaps you can use your immense powers of deductions to figure other queries that civilization has struggled with such as what religion is the pope, who is buried in grant's tomb and how many kardashians are there?

 

[sethmatrix7]

Looks like the 5800X3D price just went up

 

[eidairaman1]

Earned*
A lot like JayZ, but Steve *had* been genuinely trying to be honest. IDK wtf happened but:

Yeah... That's a good list.
8) in particular; Steve sounds snide and negative about just about everything now. It wasn't that way just a few years ago.
Sure, we all can get a bit 'black pilled', but it's draining even listening to him, now (IMO).

I stopped watching all those muppets

 

[chrcoluk]

If only these were available in the markets that mattered. Restricted to Micro Centers and thus the regions with the best tech coverage on the planet, these CPUs are effectively worthless to the world at large. Not even worth the reviews.



I wouldn't because I can't. I got a red top ROG Dominator DDR4 kit here basically staring at me all day saying "buy an A520 board for me", this chip would do the trick nicely...

Pretty much this, its a non product to most of the world.

1) many of their written case reviews (done by Patrick) were (are) excellent but switching over from written articles to videos sent them in a direction I personally don't care for. They really have moved away from case reviews which I personally believe was their bread and butter
2) GN has moved away from being a site to really creating Steve as an individual brand similar to Linus.
3) in doing so the videos seem to be more focused on creating outrage, as opposed to educating, in order to get views through clickbait headlines and length of video in order to create more ad views
4) their fake outrage over the techpowerup article (created two 20 minute videos out of it)
5) their article were they deemed most CPU cooler reviews to be flawed and not trusted but since GN are about to start testing coolers they can be trusted
6) in testing a certain intel CPU they had results that were not the same as other review sites using the same exact game, they refused to explain their review process on how they got those results
7) Steve went from not knowing the first thing about PSU to being a PSU expert in a matter of weeks
8) I don't care for Steve's antics in front of the camera

Now I will be the first to state most of these are personal reasons and Steve is hardly alone in his youtube "business practice" but when it comes to my cup of tea, I get to choose the tea leaves.

Not his biggest fan, but worth bearing in mind he employs other people to do a lot of investigation type work, and he is the editor and main presenter. Doesnt mean he is claiming to have done everything himself and claiming to be an expert in all the fields he presents.

 

[Veseleil]

all the hate towards Steve in this thread

More like speaking openly what many people think, but being afraid the masses will try to check their sanity after going all out and telling the truth.

Jay and Linus I simply find entertaining at times and don't really watch them for the raw numbers.

That is the core problem as I see it. I don't want to be entertained by any of them, I want the damn truth. As a tech lover, I'm entertained by technology itself, by using it myself, and reading about other people using it and all of the beautiful and smart ways of utilizing it.
When I want to get some laugh, I check if there's any new ZeFrank's videos out.

 

[freeagent]

No hate, still a good kid. He has many eyes on him.. who knows what you would do if you were in his position?

 

[Sithaer]

That is the core problem as I see it. I don't want to be entertained by any of them, I want the damn truth. As a tech lover, I'm entertained by technology itself, by using it myself, and reading about other people using it and all of the beautiful and smart ways of utilizing it.
When I want to get some laugh, I check if there's any new ZeFrank's videos out.

Well I watch various channels for diff reasons, not all of them have to be raw numbers only. 'for me at least, I'm totally fine with a lighter/entertainment style'
For raw numbers I mainly read the reviews on TPU anyway and then check whatever else channel I feel like to.

 

[Veseleil]

Well I watch various channels for diff reasons, not all of them have to be raw numbers only. 'for me at least, I'm totally fine with a lighter/entertainment style'
For raw numbers I mainly read the reviews on TPU anyway and then check whatever else channel I feel like to.

What I meant to say, technology wise, especially personal computers, I like pure scientific approach, no drama, no lame jokes. And I know I'm far from being the only one. Written stuff is much better for consumption.
There's too much entertainment with each topic nowadays, it hurts my intelligence.

 

[chrcoluk]

What I meant to say, technology wise, especially personal computers, I like pure scientific approach, no drama, no lame jokes. And I know I'm far from being the only one. Written stuff is much better for consumption.
There's too much entertainment with each topic nowadays, it hurts my intelligence.

I will always prefer written, I can consume it much faster than a presenter reading out the numbers to me.

 

[Veseleil]

I will always prefer written, I can consume it much faster than a presenter reading out the numbers to me.

That's why I prefer Morrowind over any newer TES title, for example.

 

[R00kie]

What channel was he a part of before Level one? The main guy had long black hair and kind of an alternative vibe. Wendell was the super smart guy in the back. They did great reviews and their PC building video was the best around.

That was Tek Syndicate, they had awesome podcasts on tech stuff back in the day, with Logan, Wendell, Qain and Pistol, until Wendell literally got pushed out of the channel, and everyone else besides Logan just up and left.

 

[Kapone33]

That was Tek Syndicate, they had awesome podcasts on tech stuff back in the day, with Logan, Wendell, Qain and Pistol, until Wendell literally got pushed out of the channel, and everyone else besides Logan just up and left.

I remember watching some of that Channel back in the day but I only ever saw the main presenter. I did enjoy it because it seemed they focused on Games.

 

[eidairaman1]

What I meant to say, technology wise, especially personal computers, I like pure scientific approach, no drama, no lame jokes. And I know I'm far from being the only one. Written stuff is much better for consumption.
There's too much entertainment with each topic nowadays, it hurts my intelligence.

The early days of PC part reviews before there was youtube, the videos were better, to the point.

 

[Deleted member 232534]

any reviews where they test it in 4K?

4K is not dependent on CPU so it should score similar to much pricey units?

 

[RAJOD1]

Micro center actually has a 12700k with Z board and DDR5 for only 20 more dollars than the 5600x3d+ddr4+b550 combo

If you live near micro center it's actually not a good deal the Intel system is significantly better overall (better ram, better motherboard, faster overall CPU, ability to upgrade to 13th or 14th gen later down the road)

I looked at both ended up getting AMD Combo as it was better in games. Bought two and 1 year later ZERO regrets not one issue on MB, RAM, etc and no tinkering with BIOS either. They were mated from the get go by microcener. The intel was slower in games and likely to have micro stutter vs amd vcache and the DDR5 memory issues that were plaguing people early on. It was more money + more risk of issues.
I would do the same thing if taken back in time. I can go 8 core update if ever needed too. But in 30+ years never done that, always update ALL so the vision of swapping in a new cpu for a future upgrade has never happened to me in 30+ years. So I expect I would be updating the entire MB/cpu/ram in 4 years. Not seeing any reason right now it does all i need with a 4070FE 1080/240hz.

 

[tussinman]

I looked at both ended up getting AMD Combo as it was better in games.

The website were on (techpowerup) has the 12700k slightly faster in games and much faster in applications. My point was if the difference in price was basically nothing then get the newer chipset with at least some possible upside.

Regardless this thread is almost a year old, and neither of these deals exist anymore so it's irrelevant at this point.

 

[RAJOD1]

The website were on (techpowerup) has the 12700k slightly faster in games and much faster in applications. My point was if the difference in price was basically nothing then get the newer chipset with at least some possible upside.

Regardless this thread is almost a year old, and neither of these deals exist anymore so it's irrelevant at this point.

Well the 5700x3d is newer and is relevant to some people. I have seen a ton of Intel people move to AMD 3D cache systems get rid of micro stutter. You have have higher frame rates yet have micro stutter. Plus many people "Not you" might want to know a long term report from people that made that decision. What is relevant and not to a post is not up to you but the eye of the reader sorry just the way that cookie crumbles.

 

[the54thvoid]

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