Adventures of the 939 build

Toothless · Sep 28, 2018

So a roomie of mine has given up a socket 939 build since he's getting his X58 rig going. (Being built by me, I'll post pics if you guys want later)

It's a Asus A8N32-SLI, no clue on the CPU yet, 4x1GB Corsair CMX1024-3200C2PT sticks 400mhz CL2 sticks. Stock cooler, wee bit of dust on it, nothing too bad. The question is there anything I should be concerned with on building this thing up? Just go for it or tweaks I should know about? I'll add pics later on when I'm not going to run on 5 hours of sleep.

GoldenX · Sep 28, 2018

Try to avoid going over 1000MHz on the HT. That's as far as I know for 939.

agent_x007 · Sep 28, 2018

Invest in 4x 2GB Reg. ECC for 8GB max. RAM

natr0n · Sep 28, 2018

agent_x007 said:
Invest in 4x 2GB Reg. ECC for 8GB max. RAM

Great idea.

Chloe Price · Sep 28, 2018

Of course you need to test older cards (GeForce 6 and 7 series) on SLI!

eidairaman1 · Sep 28, 2018

Latest bios updates, certain gpus will give an error 43 i believe too

Durvelle27 · Sep 28, 2018

I have the exact board with a Athlon 64 X2
One thing I’ve ran into is that I can’t get Windows 10 to install on it. Windows 7 runs fine though but I’m also only using 4x1GB DDR

agent_x007 · Sep 28, 2018

You can't get it to install on Windows 10, because you tried 64-bit version (which requires instruction "CompareExchange128", that Athlon 64s doesn't support, untill "F" revision and AM2 socket).
Use 32-bit, it should go through installation.

Melvis · Sep 28, 2018

I still have my original 939 system, FX-57, 2GB DDR500 RAM, and a 9600GT, one of my fav systems of all time, loved it! K8NF9-Ultra Motherboard, shit I remembered lol

Durvelle27 · Sep 28, 2018

agent_x007 said:
You can't get it to install on Windows 10, because you tried 64-bit version (which requires instruction "CompareExchange128", that Athlon 64s doesn't support, untill "F" revision and AM2 socket).
Use 32-bit, it should go through installation.

32Bit is limited to 4GB though

agent_x007 · Sep 28, 2018

You said you are using 4x1GB...

Durvelle27 · Sep 28, 2018

agent_x007 said:
You said you are using 4x1GB...

Yes but with plans to up it

But you do also know even with 4GB 32Bit Windows would not allow access to the full 4GB only 3-3.5GB

hat · Sep 28, 2018

Not good enough! Memory from the graphics card also takes up that 4GB space, among other things. Even if you had a system with no video card at all to take away from that, you still wouldn't quite have 4GB available... if you really have to use 32 bit, you're better off with 3GB system ram and a 1GB graphics card at most, and even then something is gonna lose out somewhere. But then, wouldn't PAE be an option?

I wonder what would happen if I tried to install a 32 bit OS on my system, with 8GB system ram, and two GTX1070s weighing in at 8GB a piece...

Durvelle27 · Sep 28, 2018

hat said:
Not good enough! Memory from the graphics card also takes up that 4GB space, among other things. Even if you had a system with no video card at all to take away from that, you still wouldn't quite have 4GB available... if you really have to use 32 bit, you're better off with 3GB system ram and a 1GB graphics card at most, and even then something is gonna lose out somewhere. But then, wouldn't PAE be an option?

I wonder what would happen if I tried to install a 32 bit OS on my system, with 8GB system ram, and two GTX1070s weighing in at 8GB a piece...

I have a

Athlon 64 X2 4200+
ASUS A8N32-SLI
Corsair 4GB(4x1GB) DDR
EVGA GTX 260
Antec 450W

With Windows 7 64bit and it allows full 4GB usage, no allocations

hat · Sep 28, 2018

Well... yeah, cause you're running 64 bit. We'll probably blow ourselves up before we run out of memory address space with 64 bit...

Durvelle27 · Sep 28, 2018

hat said:
Well... yeah, cause you're running 64 bit. We'll probably blow ourselves up before we run out of memory address space with 64 bit...

Which is why I refuse to use 32Bit

But system runs pretty good. Using a Zalmon Low Profile Cooler it never gets very hot. Pretty snappy for such a old plateform

Toothless · Sep 28, 2018

So try Win10, both types. If that doesn't work slap win7 on?

delshay · Sep 28, 2018

GoldenX said:
Try to avoid going over 1000MHz on the HT. That's as far as I know for 939.

I'm still building my 939 system & the HT even when overclocked has zero effect on stability overclocked or not.
it's more to do with the quality of the core(s).

If you need screenshot of proof, I can do this with 4000+, FX55. FX57 & FX60, just ask & you shall receive, take your pick of processor, all HT clocked beyond 1000MHz.

agent_x007 · Sep 28, 2018

hat said:
Not good enough! Memory from the graphics card also takes up that 4GB space, among other things. Even if you had a system with no video card at all to take away from that, you still wouldn't quite have 4GB available... if you really have to use 32 bit, you're better off with 3GB system ram and a 1GB graphics card at most, and even then something is gonna lose out somewhere. But then, wouldn't PAE be an option?

I wonder what would happen if I tried to install a 32 bit OS on my system, with 8GB system ram, and two GTX1070s weighing in at 8GB a piece...

Basic idea :

Advanced version

GTX 1080 + Celeron 2,0A :

Modern PCIe GPUs always take 256MB of physical memory.
With SLI, you would get 2.99GB usable (or a bit less depending on BIOS/MB).

theonek · Sep 28, 2018

single core cpu with a gtx1080 - yes!!!

agent_x007 · Sep 28, 2018

theonek said:
single core cpu with a gtx1080 - yes!!!

Single core is easy (Disable cores + HT on modern stuff and you are good to go

).
32-bit only (ie. older than Prescott) though... That is a challange

Durvelle27 · Sep 28, 2018

Toothless said:
So try Win10, both types. If that doesn't work slap win7 on?

I just run Windows 7 Home 64bit. No issues here and has drivers under vista that works

ZenZimZaliben · Sep 28, 2018

Opteron 185, pretty sure I got my Opt 165 running at 3ghz way back in the day on water cooling.

hat · Sep 28, 2018

GTX1080 with a 2GHz celeron...

I had a 2GHz celeron before... it was pretty bad. I also remember wanting the socket 478 P4EE cause I was young and couldn't afford anything myself, and I thought that would be the best I could do for a while...

Melvis · Sep 29, 2018

What CPU is in your 939 system?

I think I have a few spare here, 3700 Sandi Core and some 3200's.

I did run for many yrs a 4800+ on a GA-K8NF9 Sli Motherboard with 8600GT's but since sold them all off.

System Name	Volt // Dualie
Processor	i7-4790k // E5-2680v2 x2
Motherboard	MSI Z97 MPower // S2600IP4
Cooling	NZXT Kraken X60 // Hyper 212 x2
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws 4x8GB // 16x4GB ECC
Video Card(s)	MSI GTX1080 Ti Gaming X // GT 7800
Storage	250GB NVME boot + 5 HDDs (2x RAID1) // 240GB SSD + 300GB HDD
Display(s)	LG 34UB88-P + 2x AOC 2425W + Dell 2007FP // Dell 2007FP
Case	Nanoxia Deep Silence 6 // Gutted case
Audio Device(s)	LucidSound LS30 // None
Power Supply	Rosewill Fortress 750w // EVGA NEX650G
Mouse	Logitech G602 // IBM J85845R
Keyboard	G.Skill KM780 RGB (Brown switches) // Logitech M100
Software	Windows 10 Professional // Windows 10 Professional
Benchmark Scores	Technical term is PEBCAK issue, which stands for Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard

System Name	Ciel / Yukino
Processor	AMD Ryzen R3 1200 @ 3900MHz / Intel Core i3 5005U
Motherboard	MSI B350M PRO-VDH / HP 240 G5
Cooling	Wraith Stealth / Stock
Memory	2x 4GB Corsair Ballistix Sport DDR4 2400MHz @ 3333MHz / 2x 4GB Hynix + Kingston DDR3L 1600MHz
Video Card(s)	Sapphire R9 270X Toxic 2GB / Intel HD 5500
Storage	SSD WD Green 240GB M.2 / SSD Kingston A400 120GB SATA
Display(s)	HP w17e 1440x900 @ 75 Hz / Integrated 1366x768 @ 94Hz
Case	Generic / Stock
Audio Device(s)	Realtek ALC892 / Realtek ALC282
Power Supply	Sentey XPP 525W / Power Brick
Mouse	Logitech G203 / Elan Touchpad
Keyboard	Generic / Stock
Software	Windows 10 LTSC x64 + Arch Linux
Benchmark Scores	Time Spy: 2200

System Name	BOX
Processor	Xeon E5-1680 v2 @ 4,3GHz
Motherboard	Sabertooth X79 (BIOS 4801 + NVMe mod + uCode update)
Cooling	Thermalright Venomous-X (w/LGA 2011 kit) + 2x Delta PWM Push-Pull
Memory	8x A-Data Xtreme 2000X 2GB (1868MHz CL8.9.8.24 CR2T @ 1,65V)
Video Card(s)	ASUS GTX 1080 (FE)
Storage	Samsung SM961 256GB NVMe, RAID0 2x WD10EZEX (1TB), HGST HUS726060ALE610 (6TB)
Display(s)	Samsung T240
Case	NZXT Tempest (Nanoflux/PWM fans only, some w/LEDs)
Audio Device(s)	ASUS Essence ST Deluxe 7.1
Power Supply	Seasonic X-760 (760W)
Mouse	Roccat Savu
Keyboard	Logitech UltraXPremium
Software	Windows 10 Pro x64
Benchmark Scores	https://www.passmark.com/baselines/V9/display.php?id=108080818886

System Name	natr0n-PC
Processor	2600K @ 4.4GHz / Dual Xeon 5675's @ 3.33GHz 12c/24t
Motherboard	Sabertooth Z77 / GA-7TESM
Cooling	Deepcool Assassin - 3 Fans / Custom
Memory	2x8GB 2133MHz Samsung Dual Channel / 6x4GB 1333MHz Samsung Hexa Channel
Video Card(s)	Evga GTX 980 SC / Asus Strix 980ti
Storage	Various SSD/HD
Display(s)	Samsung 23' 2048x1152 / Various Dells
Case	Sunbeam Transformer Silver / Matrexx 55
Audio Device(s)	SB X-fi on all systems
Power Supply	Corsair TX 650w / Evga NEX 750B
Mouse	Alienware AW558 @ 5000 DPI
Keyboard	Asus KB34211
Software	XP64/7/8.1/10
Benchmark Scores	http://valid.x86.fr/79kuh6

System Name	AMD inside
Processor	AMD Ryzen 5 2600 @ 4.1GHz
Motherboard	MSI X470 Gaming Plus
Cooling	Custom loop
Memory	16GB G.Skill DDR4-2400
Video Card(s)	Radeon R9 290 Crossfire @ 1100/1325MHz
Storage	3x SSD, 3x HDD
Display(s)	2x 1920x1080 (23" & 22")
Case	Corsair Carbide Air 740
Audio Device(s)	Sound Blaster Z
Power Supply	Seasonic Focus+ Gold 750W
Mouse	Logitech G400s
Keyboard	Logitech G410
Software	Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores	19545 in Fire Strike with 290 Crossfire OC

Adventures of the 939 build

Toothless

Tech, Games, and TPU!

GoldenX

agent_x007

natr0n

Chloe Price

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman

Durvelle27

agent_x007

Melvis

Durvelle27

agent_x007

Durvelle27

hat

Enthusiast

Durvelle27

hat

Enthusiast

Durvelle27

Toothless

Tech, Games, and TPU!

delshay

agent_x007

theonek

agent_x007

Durvelle27

ZenZimZaliben

hat

Enthusiast

Melvis

System Name	PCGOD
Processor	AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard	Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling	Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory	16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s)	AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage	Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s)	NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case	AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s)	Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply	Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse	Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard	Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software	Windows 7 Pro 64

System Name	Black Prometheus
Processor	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
Motherboard	ASRock B350 Pro4
Cooling	Corsair H70
Memory	SK Hynix 32GB(8GBx4) DDR4 @2666MHz
Video Card(s)	Sapphire Navi 5700 XT
Storage	Sandisk X300 512GB + Seagate 2TB
Display(s)	HP LA2405WG 24" Triple Monitor (5760x1200)
Case	DeepCool Matrexx 55 w/ 3x120mm Intake + 4x120mm Exhaust
Audio Device(s)	Samsung 5.1 Setup
Power Supply	Corsair RM750X
Mouse	Logitech Trackman
Keyboard	Dell OEM
Software	Windows 10 EDU x64

System Name	Night Rider \| Mini LAN PC \| Workhorse
Processor	AMD R7 2700X \| i7 2600 \| i7 970
Motherboard	MSi AM4 Pro Carbon \| GA-H77M-D3H \| Gigabyte EX58-UD5
Cooling	AMD Wraith cooler\| Coolermaster Gemini with Noctua 3000RPM Fan \| Big shairkan B
Memory	2x8GB DDR4 G.Skill Ripjaws 3600MHz\| 2x4GB Corsair 1600 \| 6x2GB DDR3 1300 Corsair
Video Card(s)	ASUS GTX 970 OC in Sli \| Gainward GTX 650 TI GS \| ASUS 7970 Matrix
Storage	250GB Plextor SSD Por 5 /1TB WD Black \| 500GB WD ES/WD Black \| WD 320/Seagate 320
Display(s)	LG 27" 1440P\| Samsung 20" S20C300L/DELL 15" \| 22" DELL/19"DELL
Case	LIAN LI PC-18 \| Mini ATX Case (custom) \| Atrix C4 9001
Audio Device(s)	Onboard \| Onbaord \| Onboard
Power Supply	Silverstone 750 \| Silverstone Mini 450W \| Corsair CX-750
Mouse	Coolermaster Pro \| Rapoo V900 \| Gigabyte 6850X
Keyboard	MAX Keyboard Nighthawk X8 \| Creative Fatal1ty eluminx \| Some POS Logitech
Software	Windows 7 Pro 64 \| Windows 7 Pro 64 \| Windows 7 Pro 64/Windows 10 Home

System Name	Starlifter :: Dragonfly
Processor	i7 2600k 4.4GHz :: Athlon II x4 630 3.5GHz
Motherboard	ASUS P8P67 Pro :: GIgabyte GA-770T-USB3
Cooling	Corsair H70 :: Thermaltake Big Typhoon
Memory	2x4GB DDR3 1866 :: 2x1GB DDR3 1333
Video Card(s)	2x PNY GTX1070 :: none
Storage	Plextor M5s 128GB, WDC Black 500GB :: Mushkin Enhanced 60GB SSD, WD RE3 1TB
Display(s)	Acer P216HL HDMI :: None
Case	Antec SOHO 1030B :: Old White Full Tower
Audio Device(s)	Onboard - iLive IT153B Soundbar (optical) :: None
Power Supply	EVGA 500w 80 Plus :: Wounded Corsair CX600
Software	Windows 10 Pro - Plex Server on Dragonfly
Benchmark Scores	>9000

System Name	Ryzen 7 / Ryzen 5
Processor	Ryzen 7 2700X / Ryzen 5 1600X
Motherboard	Asrock X370 Proffesional Gaming X2
Cooling	Ryzen Wraith Prysm RGB / Arctic Xtreme Freezer
Memory	2x16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 3000 / 2x8GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 3000
Video Card(s)	MSI GTX1080Ti Gaming X / Zotac GTX1070 Mini
Storage	Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB + 8x2Tb RAID0 / Samsung 840 EVO 250GB + 5x2Tb RAID0
Display(s)	Samsung 32" LC32JG50 Curved 2560x1440 / Samsung 32" LC32H711 Curved 2560x1440
Case	Cooler Master Stacker 830 NV Edition / Cooler Master 690 Advance II
Audio Device(s)	Creative X-Fi Surround 5.1 SBX / Creative X-Fi Titanium Pci-E
Power Supply	Corsair Platinum HX850i X2
Mouse	Logitech G7 WL / MS BT 8000
Keyboard	Logitech G19s / Logitech UltraX
Software	Win10 Pro

System Name	TheReactor
Processor	i7 6700k @ 4.95ghz - delid
Motherboard	ASUS Maximus VIII Genie z170
Cooling	EK EVO NIckle/Pump, 2xBlackIce GTX 240's
Memory	32GB G.Skill 3200Mhz Cas 14
Video Card(s)	MSI GTX 980ti Gaming 6G
Storage	Samsung 960 EVO 500GB
Display(s)	Acer Predator xb271hu - 2560x1440 @144hz
Case	Corsiar 550
Audio Device(s)	on board
Power Supply	Antec Quattro 1000W
Mouse	Logitech G502
Keyboard	Corsair Gaming k70
Software	Windows 10 Pro 64bit