Advice needed for buying a new PSU

[Sol_Badguy]

Hello everyone.

Note: The thread I've opened in the System Builder's Advice section is probably too dense thus I'm breaking things up a bit so I can make some progress.

Considering that the PSU that I had initially opted for is a bit pricey, since yesterday I've started some research in the hope of discovering some cheaper alternatives.
I've read various reviews on hwbusters.com and also used the tier list on cultists.network to get comparable alternatives and then checked what the price situation is in my country.
Therefore I made a list with the lowest prices for every model as of today.

This is the PSU I was intent on getting initially:
Seasonic Focus GX-1000W Gold V4 (GX-1000-V4) - 199 €

These are the alternatives, all Tier A, single rail and 1000W (except for Cougar and Chieftec at 1050):

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FSP Hydro GT Pro 1000W Gold (PPA10A3510) - 144 €
Deepcool PX1000G 1000W Gold (R-PXA00G-FC0B) - 158 €
Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W Gold (PS-TPD-1000FNFAGE-4) - 160 €
Cougar Polar 1050 Platinum 1050W (CGR-PR-1050) - 161 €
FSP Hydro G Pro 1000W Gold (PPA10A2413) - 164 €
Corsair RM1000e 1000W Gold 2023 (CP-9020264) - 167 €
Super Flower Leadex VII XG 1000W Gold (SF-1000F14XG) - 168 €
Phanteks AMP v2 1000W Gold (PH-P1000G_EU02) - 174 €
Deepcool PX1000P 1000W Platinum (R-PXA00P-FC0B-EU) - 176 €
Corsair RM1000e 1000W Gold 2025 (CP-9020297-EU) - 177 €
Montech Titan Gold 1000W Gold (TIS0125) - 181 €
Thermaltake Toughpower SFX 1000W Gold (PS-STP-1000FNFAGE-1) - 182 €
ASUS ROG STRIX 1000W Gold (90YE00AA-B0NA00) - 186 €
Chieftec Chieftronic PowerPlay 1050W Platinum (GPU-1050FC) - 189 €
Corsair SF1000L 1000W Gold (CP-9020246-EU) - 190 €
Corsair RM1000x 1000W Gold (CP-9020271-EU) - 192 €
Seasonic Vertex GX-1000 1000W Gold (SS-PS-VER-1000W) - 194 €
Corsair RM1000x SHIFT Gold (CP-9020253) - 196 €

The following are 1200W (except for Super Flower at 1300), Tier A, single rail, but given that the prices overlap with some 1000W I figured they are even better options:

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Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1200W Gold (PS-TPD-1200FNFAGE-4) - 168 €
NZXT C1200 1200W Gold (PA-2G1BB-EU) - 175 €
Cougar Polar 1200 Platinum 1200W (CG31PL120000P01) - 184 €
Super Flower Leadex VII XG 1300W Gold (SF-1300F14XG) - 187 €
FSP Hydro G Pro 1200W Gold (PPA12A1401) - 192 €
Deepcool PX1200G 1200W Gold (R-PXC00G-FC0B) - 193 €

The PSU is supposed to power the following system or thereabouts:

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- CPU: most probably Ryzen 7950X
- RAM: 32 or 64 GB RAM (I'll probably go with 64 GB but it's not settled yet)
- GPU: this is where things go south as I'm likely referencing vaporware, but here goes: a 5070 Ti / 4080 Super / 5080 type GPU if I can get one as close to MSRP as possible (good luck with that). I've abandoned the idea of going with a 7900 XTX.
- Drives: two M.2 Gen4 2 TB drives, a 2 TB HDD and a 4 TB HDD.
- Fans: I'm eyeing the Phanteks G500A which has 4 included and the AC Freezer III 360 which has 3.
^No overclocking as I don't see the benefit.

By the looks of it I should pull the trigger on the Thermaltake GF3 1200. But I want some more opinions on that, because I'm not sure that it will be unanimous.
That's because the Super Flower Leadex 1300 is a little more expensive but packs a bigger punch and the quality is on par if not better.
I know that a wattage of 1200 / 1300 is absolutely overkill for the config in my example but I'm basically not spending any extra money over my initial option.

Thank you.

 

[Dr. Dro]

RM1000e 2025 for native 12v-2x6 and ATX 3.1 spec compliance, otherwise the 1300 W Super Flower. Can't go wrong with either of those

 

[steamrick]

Pretty much any of those listed should work for your PC.

If you're certain you won't be getting a 5090 class card (600W) any time in the future, any ATX 3.x 850W PSU will also do fine.

Is there anything in particular you're looking for, such as low operating noise? In that case, I'd opt for the not listed FSP Hydro Ti Pro 1000W (or 850W).

 

[dirtyferret]

lol tier A, the guy takes other peoples work and makes up tiers

if you are on HB already, why go to a tier list. Aris already has his best of list

 

[Countryside]

Super Flower or Seasonic these are one of the best on the market!

 

[Sol_Badguy]

@Dr. Dro

About the native 12v-2x6 connector I found some relevant info, it seems that using 2x8 pin is completely fine:

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No More 12VHPWR Connector! Say hi to 12V-2×6 - Hardware Busters

Hardware Busters - No More 12VHPWR Connector! Say hi to 12V-2×6 - News

hwbusters.com

How to Select a new PSU with the upcoming 12VHPWR change? - Hardware Busters

Hardware Busters - How to Select a new PSU with the upcoming 12VHPWR change? - PSUs

hwbusters.com

Evolving Standards: 12VHPWR and 12V-2x6

With the introduction of the RTX 40-Series, the PCIe 5.0 12VHPWR GPU power connector made its debut with the promise to deliver up to 600W of power through a single connector. As with any new standard, things are likely to evolve quickly and we’re now seeing the introduction of a new connector...

www.corsair.com

https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/explo...6-vs-8-pin-to-12v-2x6-what-is-the-difference/

So yeah it's probably more marketing than anything else, it's not like PSUs that don't have the 12V-2x6 socket are now obsolete.

@steamrick

I'm very certain, I can't afford a MSRP 5090 let alone a street price one. )))))
I'll be having mad trouble getting a 5080 for a semi-reasonable price.

No not really, just not noisier than usual to be honest. But I figured that an overkill PSU is going to be pretty quiet anyway since it's not breaking up a sweat.

I have searched for some 850W models:

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Chieftec Chieftronic PowerPlay 850W Platinum (GPU-850FC) - 124 €
FSP Hydro GT Pro 850W Gold (PPA8503510) - 129 €
Super Flower Leadex VII XG 850W Gold (SF-850F14XG) - 137 €
Cooler Master V850 Gold V2 Gold 850W (MPY-850V-AFBAG-EU) - 140 €
Corsair RM850e 850W Gold 2023 (CP-9020263-EU) - 140 €
Corsair RM850e 850W Gold 2025 (CP-9020296-EU) - 141 €
Montech Titan Gold 850W Gold (TIS0124) - 143 €
Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 850W Gold (PS-TPD-0850FNFAGE-4) - 144 €
NZXT C850 850W Gold (PA-8G2BB-EU) - 144 €
Corsair RM850x 850W Gold (CP-9020270-EU) - 145 €
Deepcool PX850G 850W Gold (R-PX850G-FC0B) - 150 €
FSP Hydro G Pro 850W Gold (PPA8501914) - 152 €
Super Flower Leadex VII Pro 850W Platinum (SF-850F14XP) - 153 €
Seasonic Focus GX 850W Gold V4 (GX-850-V4) - 154 €
Corsair RM850x Shift Gold (CP-9020252-EU) - 156 €
ASUS ROG STRIX 850W Gold (90YE00A3-B0NA00) - 158 €

For the cheaper ones yes there is money to be saved compared to 1200W models, but not that much, it was to be expected that bigger ones offer more watts per currency unit. I'm not against going for a 850W one, I'm sure it will suffice, the only issue is getting one at a really good price because as I've said these smaller ones offer less watts in relation to the money.
For example:

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Super Flower Leadex VII XG 850W Gold (SF-850F14XG) - 137 € -> 6.20 W/€
Super Flower Leadex VII XG 1000W Gold (SF-1000F14XG) - 168 € -> 5.95 W/€
Super Flower Leadex VII XG 1300W Gold (SF-1300F14XG) - 187 € -> 6.95 W/€
Same series so apples to apples. We can immediately see that the 1000W has a bad price, if it were 155 € it would have 6.45 W/€ which would be somewhere in between the 850W and the 1300W one.
Based on this example I am considering the 850W Super Flower PSU. 50 € is not that much but I can buy something with it.

The FSP Hydro Ti Pro models are really expensive:
FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W Titanium (PPA8504003) - 224 €
FSP Hydro Ti Pro 1000W Titanium (PPA10A3803) - 258 €
And also with limited availability or not in stock.

@dirtyferret

I know it's a little too shoehorned but it does have a bit of merit in the sense that it can give the reader a general direction to follow, and the direction is pretty accurate, but probably most readers will not dig deeper than a couple of reviews after that.
I've read the article and even so there are multiple options, probably price is the decisive factor.

 

[dirtyferret]

and the direction is pretty accurate

I don't think your use of pretty accurate is accurate if it was you would know that while the Seasonic Focus GX-1000W is a good PSU it's not up to par to previous versions of the Focus due to cost cutting. I happen to own a previous focus plus (and half of the PSU ive owned have been oem by seasonic) so it's not like I'm anti seasonic. You see that is what happens when some one takes other peoples work and rather than use that persons actual review, re-arranges it to fit their own personal agenda. I hope this simplified definition is easier for you to understand.

 

[JrRacinFan]

@Sol_Badguy do you have the brand Segotep available? They are an affordable brand and I've had nothing but good results with them over the past couple years (I do custom builds on the side for people)

 

[pf100]

@Sol_Badguy do you have the brand Segotep available? They are an affordable brand and I've had nothing but good results with them over the past couple years (I do custom builds on the side for people)

Segotep was probably Imhotep's brother, who was an Egyptian chancellor to the King Djoser, possible architect of Djoser's step pyramid, and high priest of the sun god Ra at Heliopolis, probably. Wait, what was the subject again?

 

[Sol_Badguy]

@dirtyferret

Correct, and now I know because I have dug deeper and I have more information. The initial option was based less on information and more on getting the "latest and greatest from that big brand with great reputation".

@JrRacinFan

It is, some models. But there isn't much as far as bigger capacities.
Segotep GM1000W Gold - 178 €
Segotep PM850W Platinum - 119 €

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In the meantime I found this:
Super Flower Leadex III Gold Up 1000W Gold (SF-1000F14GE) - 134 €
Some reviews of it and related models:

Super Flower LEADEX III GOLD UP ATX 3.1 1000W | LTT Labs

Test results and review of Super Flower LEADEX III GOLD UP ATX 3.1 1000W

www.lttlabs.com

Super Flower LEADEX III GOLD ATX 3.1 850W PSU Review - Introduction

The latest power supply units feature ATX 3.1 and PCIe 5.1 standards, with 12V-2x6 connectors that support the latest NVIDIA RTX graphics cards. Check out one of Super Flower's offerings - the LEADEX III GOLD ATX 3.1 Series PSUs.

www.vortez.net

Super Flower Leadex III 1300W ATX v3.1 PSU Review - Hardware Busters

Hardware Busters - Super Flower Leadex III 1300W ATX v3.1 PSU Review - PSUs

hwbusters.com

From what I understand the Leadex III platform is different and a bit weaker than Leadex VII but it's still a solid choice.
So now I have an alternative for the SF Leadex VII 850W which is basically at the same price.
This one has more watts and a native 12V-2x6 socket.
Any thoughts on which of these two is a better choice?
Thank you.

 

[Knight47]

lol tier A, the guy takes other peoples work and makes up tiers

if you are on HB already, why go to a tier list. Aris already has his best of list

No Seasonic? List must be fake.

 

[dirtyferret]

No Seasonic? List must be fake.

this is why there are probably five total people on this forum who know what they are talking about when it comes to PSU

 

[Bronan]

My 2 cents is go for the cheaper platinum rated 1000 watt ones and save up a little on your power consumption also
Even though some may argue that it is not really much saved, i myself use them for years and it really pays of in time
I have even several very old ones who still work fantastic, so i start to wonder which one is going to die sooner my psu or me by the looks of it i fear it will be this overpowered psu.

 

[Knight47]

this is why there are probably five total people on this forum who know what they are talking about when it comes to PSU

Well at least there's one Corsair who's rebranding Seasonic PSUs

 

[dirtyferret]

Well at least there's one Corsair who's rebranding Seasonic PSUs

Corsair has an in house design team that works with their oems. They haven't rebranded anything in some time, they design platforms they can take from one OEM to another that typically includes CWT, HEC, great wall, chicony among others. In fact their top PSU isn't even made by those oems or seasonic. Nice try, did you come over from the toms forums? Your PSU knowledge is pretty much their "level"

 

[Toss]

I bought Asus Rog, looks like rebranded Seasonic with that fan off button

 

[dirtyferret]

I bought Asus Rog, looks like rebranded Seasonic with that fan off button

Their old rog strix is built by seasonic, newer rog units are CWT, great wall, wentai depending on the exact one

 

[Techaddict]

Go with the Super Flower Leadex III Gold Up 1000W at 134€. Great price, ATX 3.1 compliant, and plenty of wattage for your system.

 

[Sol_Badguy]

@Techaddict


Yes it ticks all the boxes.
Thank you.