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AMD 2012 CPU Roadmap Unveils FX-X300 and A10 Series

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  1. btarunr

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    AMD is pushing on with a desktop product lineup that's leveraging its Piledriver CPU and Graphics CoreNext GPU architectures in 2012. Apparently, the company will have a faster product development cycle to catch up with Intel's "Tick-Tock", as revealed in a roadmap slide scored by DonanimHaber. The current product lineup will remain unchanged in the first quarter of 2012. Then in the second quarter, AMD will launch a few more socket AM3+ FX-8000, FX-6000, and FX-4000 series eight, six, and four-core processors; along with the much talked about "Trinity" accelerated processing unit.

    The fastest "Trinity" APUs will get a new brand identifier, the A10-5000 series. These APUs will pack next-generation "Piledriver" modular cores and Radeon HD 7600D series graphics. Around this time, AMD will also launch the Brazos 2.0 low-power APU for netbooks, nettops, and embedded computing devices. Brazos 2.0 will get the E2-1000 series branding. The big change is reserved for the third quarter of 2012, when AMD launches the successor of its less-than-lucky AMD FX "Bulldozer" processor family.

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    Codenamed "Vishera", AMD's new FX-x300 family (where x = 8 in case of eight-core, 6 in case of six-core, and 4, in case of quad-core), will likely be built on the same AM3+ platform, but based on the "Piledriver" core architecture, which brings in about 15% IPC increase over Bulldozer. The roadmap slide talks about FX-8350 being the top-end part, followed by FX-8320, FX-6300, and FX-4320. Around that time, AMD will replace its A6 and A4 "Llano" parts with new A6 and A4 "Trinity" ones. The A6-5400 APU features Radeon HD 7540D graphics, while the A4-5300 features Radeon HD 7480D.

    Source: DonanimHaber
     
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    Hmm. So they'll still sell Llano alongside Trinity. Curious to see the performance difference.

    I just hope they don't get lost in a sea of number revisions. Hopefully they'll focus on the initial model. They seem to have done away with the triple core A6 so that is one potential issue down.
     
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    Bulldozer modules have a pair of "cores" so no tri-core is possible.
     
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    Looks like they will sell both only until the lower-end Trinity is released in Q3. Then it is all Trinity.

    A triple core Trinity is not possible. LLano was based on Phenom/Athlon II based "Stars" core so triple was possible. Trinity uses PileDrive modules, each with 2 integer cores, so the core count will always be an even number.
     
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    "based on the "Piledriver" core architecture, which brings in about 15% IPC increase over Bulldozer."


    Great, so that makes them roughly as fast as a Phenom II, but not until nearly 2013....:rolleyes:
     
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    The roadmap says Q3 2012. Anyway,a 15% IPC increase is probably going to happen in line with a clockspeed increase too.
     
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    Well... Current Bulldozer IS faster than PII. Only some specific benchmarks are lower.

    Still, it is a disappointment.
    That's why I keep my PII until Vishera comes out.
     
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    IPC wasn't the only downfall Bulldozer had... there were others, probably due to it being a late architecture picked up from the cellar. What PD will make up in performance won't be just based on IPC.
     
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    Indeed, there's this increased power consumption/performance compared to even Phenom II, oh wait...
     
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    Your not kidding, at the current rate of progress the Bulldozer range will be as fast as the i5/i7 by about, what?...2016:rolleyes:
     
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    Hmm, no FX 8170 or any supposed B3 Bulldozer processors on the roadmap. I guess they're going straight to Piledriver.
     
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    I kind of want a laptop with an A10-5700, but the rest of that roadmap looks pretty uninteresting...
     
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    AMD either scrapped the FX 8170 Bulldozer based CPU (B3 stepping) or they will release it sometime in the Q2 2012 as it stated in one of there older roadmaps.

    Anyhow B3 along with the much needed modifications hopefully should be enough for Piledriver to make a performance leap over today's Bulldozer.

    http://semiaccurate.com/2012/02/07/fabless-works-for-amd/
     
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    Hmm AMD A10, They Should Mark the Box with a Fairchild Republic A10 Thunderbolt II on the box and a Case Sticker with the Same CAS Jet.



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    I think skipping Zambezi B3 and going straight to Piledriver is a good move. Better spend those precious resources on the optimized core.
     
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    They could always make those Units for OEM/Business Class CPUs...
     
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    Two cores
    Four cores
    Eight cores

    The Bulldozer family module can have any number of cores and tri-core is possible but not logical

    The FX series has the same power/performance compared to Phenom II in the same usage of threads

    Opteron 6174 - $1240
    AMD Opteron 6174 Magny-Cours 2.2GHz 12 x 512KB L2 ...
    Opteron 6234 - $400
    AMD Opteron 6234 Interlagos 2.4GHz 16MB L3 Cache S...

    FX isn't the only series which used Bulldozer
     
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    No.

    A module is considered by AMD to be 2 cores. A module is also the smallest working unit and thus a single core can not be disabled. Cores have to be disabled in pairs. Since the smallest unit that can be disabled in an entire module and not individual cores.
     
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    You can disable cores...

    Power gating is allocated to each core and the module(You can have either the whole module turned off or have one or the other core turned off)
     
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    Just like seronx you can disable 1 core per module.
     
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    Well every review had different power numbers because the FX-8150 was largely inconsistent when it came to power draw. It did seem to use at least as much power as Phenom II's did, which is the complete opposite of Intel where each line seems to use less power...
     
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    The inconsistency is do variations in benchmarking methodology

    Some used 3dmark/game, some used Cinebench, some used a HPC app, and some used LinX/IBT/OCCT/Prime95.

    AMD didn't change the socket thus power specification hasn't changed. Intel changes sockets and with that comes changes in power consumption and other components

    FM2/C2012/G2012 Komodo/Sepang/Terramar would have brought the power specification change that AMD needed and it would come with an embedded NB and I/O Links but those were killed off for the more "affordable" and much "cheaper" Vishera/Seoul/Abu Dahbi
     
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    I can't say I am going to be excited over this piledriver considering how much hype was around BD launch.. :(
     
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    probably wise, heres hopein though eh:D
     
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