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AMD A10 7850K Freezing after GPU-Z opened

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ok so i bumed it up .25 nothing seems to be diffrent what should i look for btw im running gskill f3-2133c9-4gxl on a asrock a88x fm2+ killer
 

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did you disable flash hardware acceleration ?
 
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what should my north bridge me set too?
 

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my nb is 1800mhz is that ok for 2133?
 

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1800 is the default until you get it stable don't change it
 
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it still seems to be bottle necked at 800mhz and 12.8gbps when my ram is 17gbps and 1066 ddr3
 
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hello? forgot to add its 2133mhz ram
 

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fix the stability problem before you worrie about speed
test and report back I would run a memtest over night
 
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1. disable flash hardware acceleration will correct the BSOD its a known issue and its adobes problem not amd's tho you may wanna update the drivers to the LATEST to see if it corrects it else just turn the flash hardware acceleration off by right clicking on the video

2. goto into the bios and take everything off auto set the ram timings manually to what they should be
odds are the cpu may not handle 2400Mhz without tweaking the voltage most APU's only do ~2000 at stock imc voltage
to get 2400 stable you will most likely need to give the voltages a slight bump try like 0.25 and go up from their

this has nothing todo with gpu-z other then the fact that GPU-z tells the APU to throttle up and the imc is unstable at the required speed
maybe for 2400 Mhz 1.65 V is not enough but i set 1333 mhz with auto voltage but GPU-Z still freezing my pc.

i just disable hardware acceleration but blue screen is second problem for me. i'm worry about stability, why my always freezing if everything is default in bios? ram timings, voltages, cpu frequency, everything is very stable untill i open gpu-z.

my problem is voltages? but even one windows of GPU-Z can freeze my pc after 5-10 min. if i open frequently too much of GPU-Z after ~20-30 seconds my system will freeze
 

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Report the issue to wizzard
 
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maybe for 2400 Mhz 1.65 V is not enough but i set 1333 mhz with auto voltage but GPU-Z still freezing my pc.

i just disable hardware acceleration but blue screen is second problem for me. i'm worry about stability, why my always freezing if everything is default in bios? ram timings, voltages, cpu frequency, everything is very stable untill i open gpu-z.

my problem is voltages? but even one windows of GPU-Z can freeze my pc after 5-10 min. if i open frequently too much of GPU-Z after ~20-30 seconds my system will freeze
Well sounds like it's just a compatibility issue with GPU-Z. I would just not use it for now if that's the way you keep freezing.
 
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you aren't listening nor understanding
most APU's only support 1866 ram PERIOD it doesn't matter what the ram says or what the board says the apu only supports 1866 out of the box if you want more then that you will need todo some tweaking any ram kit >1866 isn't gonna be plug in play at least not in 100% of cases

timings/chip quality variances in board compatibility all come into play at higher ram speeds
http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/processors/desktop/a-series-apu <--Officially the max supported for most Kaveri APU's is 2133 (Check out the 'Specs' tab)

To the relevant part of the thread:
I'd do as OneMoar suggested and run Memtest 86+ http://www.memtest.org/ I'd suggest maybe 2 or 3 passes.
 
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This sounds like stability issues to me.

It could even be bad RAM.

Then try running Memtest86 on the machine for at least 24 hours.

read my reply nub
and no offically APU's only support 1866
you aren't listening nor understanding
most APU's only support 1866 ram PERIOD it doesn't matter what the ram says or what the board says the apu only supports 1866 out of the box if you want more then that you will need todo some tweaking any ram kit >1866 isn't gonna be plug in play at least not in 100% of cases

timings/chip quality variances in board compatibility all come into play at higher ram speeds
increase the cpu-nb by 0.25
Why is it every time I come here I have to correct your wrong information?

Trinity and Richland only supported 1866.

Kaveri, what the 7850K is, DOES support 2133 out of the box and will be plug and play.

Some APU motherboard require you enable the XMP profile before they will read speeds beyond 1600, but that is all you should have to do to get 2133 working properly.

You do not need to increase any voltage to get a Kaveri APU to run 2133 RAM.

Suggesting someone up voltages to get the speeds the APU is supposed to support out of the box, which can lead to damage to the APU, is stupid.
 
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This sounds like stability issues to me.

It could even be bad RAM.

Then try running Memtest86 on the machine for at least 24 hours.







Why is it every time I come here I have to correct your wrong information?

Trinity and Richland only supported 1866.

Kaveri, what the 7850K is, DOES support 2133 out of the box and will be plug and play.

Some APU motherboard require you enable the XMP profile before they will read speeds beyond 1600, but that is all you should have to do to get 2133 working properly.

You do not need to increase any voltage to get a Kaveri APU to run 2133 RAM.

Suggesting someone up voltages to get the speeds the APU is supposed to support out of the box, which can lead to damage to the APU, is stupid.
so do NOT touch the voltages?
 
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guys i pass memtest86 V 5.1.0 Free edition with 0 errors in 4:12 hours
here is screen shot











as we see memory is ok.
in BIOS everything is default and set AUTO (ram timings, apu frequency, nb voltage, everything is auto)
APU is not overlocked.
PSU is EVGA 1000 P2
i have HDD + SSD (i tried to install windows on HDD and after opening GPU-Z my pc freeze again)


any ideas?
how i notice about this to the GPU-Z technical support? or they will read this topic?
 

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If it doesnt freeze in anything else i say its the program itself
 
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lasha we have almost the exact setup its gpu z
 
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so do NOT touch the voltages?
No, do not touch the voltages other than setting your RAM voltage to the correct value if needed(but XMP should set that for you).

guys i pass memtest86 V 5.1.0 Free edition with 0 errors in 4:12 hours
here is screen shot











as we see memory is ok.
in BIOS everything is default and set AUTO (ram timings, apu frequency, nb voltage, everything is auto)
APU is not overlocked.
PSU is EVGA 1000 P2
i have HDD + SSD (i tried to install windows on HDD and after opening GPU-Z my pc freeze again)


any ideas?
how i notice about this to the GPU-Z technical support? or they will read this topic?
4 hours isn't long enough, that is why I said at least 24 hours.

I've had memory that would only generate an error in memtest if I let it run for 24 hours.

Watch this:

And this:
 

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Xmp doesnt run properly on several setups...
 
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For reference, the A10 7850k has support for DDR3 2400 out of the box. I have set up 3 systems in the past month or so with DDR3 2400 and they work just fine without issue though I have always used Gskill Trident X.

It sounds like it's GPU-Z guys and not a system problem. Do not use GPU-Z for now and wait for a patch/post on the forums about GPU-Z with the issue to see if a fix is coming or what.
 

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just throwing a random suggestion, try running GPU-Z as admin
 
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ok so i did a max memtest i did a 24hr prime nothing rams good i also did a 1 whole day burnintest and it ran into nothing
 
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hi guys
after too many hours spending for find what was the problem, i think i solved problem
here is screenshot
my only problem was 1) FREEZING after opened GPU-Z (and second is blue sqreen but its ok)




i opened 20 GPU-Z! result was: no freezing!
how i reach this stability:
  • Unistall AMD Catalyst™ Software (i left only LAN, AUDIO, USB 3.0 Drivers)
  • Take one stick of meory (single chanell)
  • Set RAM speed 800 Mhz
  • Set APU speed 4.2 Ghz (btw no matter Core Ghz speed) with 1 Core
  • Disable Turbo boost
  • NB frequency 1200 Mhz
  • Tested on Windows 7 Ultimate 32 Bit




i think at high speed memory is not working well because of voltages (i think, because low speed it doesn't freezing). i will try next time at high speed because i have new bad surprises.


okay guys, one problem somehow is solved but i have another problems! Web browsers! Browsing with any well known browsers such as Mozilla Firefox and even Google Chrome (i didn't tried Opera), i have same problems. i cannot watch any movies on full screen! every time when i'm listening music in youtube, i'm hearing stuttering sound from speakers and soon eventually it has freezing sound! after that i cannot play any songs, because in windows somewhere is problem. anyway at this moment system is not freezing, just system is continue working without sound. i think here is audio problems on Windows 7 32 bit because i never had this problem with 64 bit operating systems like Windows 7 or 8.1. looks like 32 bit windows has conflict to any programs which is linked to audio system. because i have sound problems, not software.

ok guys i will continue my experiments and i will update this topic little bit later, i hope with good news. thx
 
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