AMD has finally fixed the vRAM running at high speed/3d clocks with high refresh rate monitors

[xrobwx71]

I mean that's kind of implying that Nvidia cards/software don't have just as many issues, it's not the case, and again it's not a common issue afaik, as with all things computers it could well be just "one of those things" with your particular setup/software environment/hardware etc for the most part there is little to differentiate between both AMD and Nvidia, maybe price/perf in favour of AMD and slightly more issues, though not enough to warrant picking one over the other as being better or worse IMO

I tried AMD once in the late 2000's and promptly switched back to Nvidia. I have been using Nvidia since the early 2000's, at work (15 variations) and at home (gaming) without issue. I do not utilize GeForce Experience.

 

[bug]

Wish they'd fix the horrendous driver control panel performance, constantly crashing, taking ages to switch from one tab to another, corrupting saved profiles for no reason... the cards are good but the software, man. Thankfully someone was bright enough to add an option to install just the drivers and skip all the bloatware.

It's probably how they use it at AMD

@DoLlyBirD Let me know when it works in multi-monitor setups as well. That has always been the Achille's heel (even for Nvidia, iirc).

 

[Vayra86]

I mean that's kind of implying that Nvidia cards/software don't have just as many issues, it's not the case, and again it's not a common issue afaik, as with all things computers it could well be just "one of those things" with your particular setup/software environment/hardware etc for the most part there is little to differentiate between both AMD and Nvidia, maybe price/perf in favour of AMD and slightly more issues, though not enough to warrant picking one over the other as being better or worse IMO

But that's a known fact, historically and by the actual numbers. The facts are: Nvidia has been holding on to a much larger market share so the user group AND support offered as a result of that is a lot bigger. Nvidia has been holding on to the same driver regime for god knows how long, while AMD has switched it up several times - and has had prolonged periods of doing absolutely nothing. Has abandoned (literally) unsuccessful cards like Fury (X). And another fact: AMD policy is to make things tweakable. This directly results in more users doing 'things' and a reduction of refinement in what options users can or cannot access. Nvidia's policy is to make everything 'just work' at the expense of some control.

Its entirely unsurprising that different policies lead to different quality levels. The difference is there, has been there, and will likely continue to be there. Gives us something to choose between, much like you say.

What AMD needs to do is cover the most glaring issues, and this was definitely one of them. One Nvidia also encountered, by the way, and one that impacts users differently as monitor resolutions and refresh rate combinations change.

 

[AsRock]

What's funny is I can use the mini displayport to full displayport to HDMI on my other, older cards like the HD7950 and R9280, and be fine.

Drivers after 19.8.1-Aug20 ?, it works perfectly fine before that date. I am just saying they broke it around that time.

I've wiped windows many times blocked windows auto installing default display gone though about 8 different versions of drivers.

 

[Splinterdog]

Clickbait title or no? for me not at all, I am thrilled with what I have just found out tonight......

After years and probably thousands of user reports by AMD GPU owners, AMD have finally fixed the vRAM running at high speed/3d clocks with high refresh rate monitors.

I am for the 1st time since owning my 165hz monitor able to just go to display settings in Windows and run it at 165hz and the vRAM doesn't automatically jump up to full speed when browsing or doing anything light/not gaming on the computer.

Right now, 6w usage with Opera browser open and 165hz refresh rate, previously I had to run 100hz top stop the vram from running full 3d clocks which in turn, increased the power draw from around 7w to 25-30w, increased heat output affecting the zero-fan feature. No more CRU custom profiles, running my monitor at a lower refresh rate or switching refresh rates when gaming/not gaming.

Hallelujah praise the lord it has only taken them a few years to work out , I'm using the latest 22.5.2 drivers for anyone interested.

I'm using the same drivers on my RX 5700 XT and I haven't noticed a change in Vram clocks speeds at all.

However, if I change the refresh rate to 120Hz in the monitor settings, the clock speed goes down to 200Hz. The monitor also has a function of enabling or disabling display port 1.2. Disabling takes it down to 120Hz refresh and 200Hz vram.

Not really ideal and the picture looks washed out.

 

[Colddecked]

I'm using the same drivers on my RX 5700 XT and I haven't noticed a change in Vram clocks speeds at all.
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However, if I change the refresh rate in the monitor settings, the clock speed goes down to 200Hz. The monitor also has a function of enabling or disabling display port 1.2. Disabling takes it down to 120Hz refresh and 200Hz vram.
Not really ideal.

Do you have multiple monitors?

OP same question.

 

[Splinterdog]

Do you have multiple monitors?

OP same question.

Nope, just the one LG 32" 144Hz, 1440p.

 

[LFaWolf]

That was how my old R9 290 died, AMD driver decided to lock the fan speed to 20% and after maybe a month the card was dead, the VRM or VRAM probably cooked itself to death.

Hmm I had the same issue except mine was 290x. I rma it with xfx and then sold the replacement. I went nvidia since then and have not had an AMD gpu.

 

[caroline!]

It's there in AIDA as well, the fix is Windows video driver Timeout Detection and Recovery delay (TdrDelay).

Bookmark this for any future reference ~

Cool, bookmarked. I have AIDA installed but looks like the old Everest fix is still working because it hasn't asked me to apply it again ^^

Report it every driver release till it's fixed. They can't fix it till they hear about it.

I tried to report but the bug reporting tool crashed, beautiful.
Do they even care about the reports?

About the 30Hz thing, make sure to use the proper cable and converter (if applies), I used a dirt cheap converter back in the day and it couldn't do more than 1024x768 at 50Hz, I didn't care too much about it since my computer wasn't even able to run games at that resolution, always playing at 640x480 and the lowest graphics possible, or in windowed mode. Those were the days.

 

[suraswami]

Drivers after 19.8.1-Aug20 ?, it works perfectly fine before that date. I am just saying they broke it around that time.

I've wiped windows many times blocked windows auto installing default display gone though about 8 different versions of drivers.

I also have issue with DP to HDMI. I have 3 monitor setup with one of the monitors connected with DP to HDMI, 2 other monitors are connected with native connections (DP-DP and HDMI-HDMI). All of the monitors are old 60Hz refresh type.

If the monitors go to sleep then it disconnects the DP to HDMI and because of this the apps gets rearranged from all other monitors when PC wakes up the monitors. I RDP to my work laptop and it disconnects the connection or messes with its multi-monitor setup.

Any driver after 2020, November 18 is POS. So I am forced to use 2 year old drivers.

My card is MSI 5700XT.

I am still on W10, W11 is garbage.

 

[TriCyclops]

Wish they'd fix the horrendous driver control panel performance, constantly crashing, taking ages to switch from one tab to another, corrupting saved profiles for no reason... the cards are good but the software, man. Thankfully someone was bright enough to add an option to install just the drivers and skip all the bloatware.

haven't had that happen in years tbh

 

[bogmali]

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[DoLlyBirD]

Hmmm I moved to a 6700 xt from a
5600 xt maybe it's not as much of an issue with 6000 I know it's been present for years with a 580 before the 5600 xt also

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Spoilsport

 

[bogmali]

Spoilsport

Click-bait title or no? for me not at all It is

 

[eidairaman1]

I tried AMD once in the late 2000's and promptly switched back to Nvidia. I have been using Nvidia since the early 2000's, at work (15 variations) and at home (gaming) without issue. I do not utilize GeForce Experience.

My experience with nv was the same went back to ATi and haven't looked back.

Cool, bookmarked. I have AIDA installed but looks like the old Everest fix is still working because it hasn't asked me to apply it again ^^


I tried to report but the bug reporting tool crashed, beautiful.
Do they even care about the reports?

About the 30Hz thing, make sure to use the proper cable and converter (if applies), I used a dirt cheap converter back in the day and it couldn't do more than 1024x768 at 50Hz, I didn't care too much about it since my computer wasn't even able to run games at that resolution, always playing at 640x480 and the lowest graphics possible, or in windowed mode. Those were the days.

Actually they do care about the reports.

 

[Splinterdog]

I've sent multiple reports through the crash report system (when that itself doesn't effing crash). Must be at least 15 times, whatever use that does.
Not only that, but when a serious game crash occurs, you have to clean install the damn Radeon software, either factory reset or DDU or both because the entire Radeon suite becomes corrupted and can no longer be used.
If I could afford to, I would change this card tomorrow.

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You may have changed the title but with respect, AMD has NOT fixed the issue mentioned in the title for EVERYBODY.

 

[AusWolf]

I've sent multiple reports through the crash report system (when that itself doesn't effing crash). Must be at least 15 times, whatever use that does.
Not only that, but when a serious game crash occurs, you have to clean install the damn Radeon software, either factory reset or DDU or both because the entire Radeon suite becomes corrupted and can no longer be used.
If I could afford to, I would change this card tomorrow.


You may have changed the title but with respect, AMD has NOT fixed the issue mentioned in the title for EVERYBODY.

That just sounds like the 5700 XT, unfortunately. I know, I had one too. The 6000 series is so much better (though still not perfect).

 

[bogmali]

You may have changed the title but with respect, AMD has NOT fixed the issue mentioned in the title for EVERYBODY.

I just went with what the OP has said, it can always be changed for the better

 

[xrobwx71]

My experience with nv was the same went back to ATi and haven't looked back.

Which probably had to do with our hardware/software variables at the time than opinion or a one of billions example, which was my point.

 

[DoLlyBirD]

Update:

Running 22.6.1 drivers vRAM is now running full speed again at anything above 100hz on my monitor, FFS AMD 1 step forward and 2 steps back, going back to 22.5.2 for now and will raise a ticket with them and wait with baited breath

5-6w usage in 2d makes a BIG difference to 26w when vram is running full speed and also kicks up the temperature to 50c+ from under 40c which is unneccesary

 

[HD64G]

Which GPU are you using? I have this problem, which AMD swears is normal, on my RX5700XT, not to mention more driver crashes than I have ever experienced with a video card.
I'll check later...

My RX5700 has this bug and I decided to have my monitor refresh rate to 120Hz instead of 144Hz in order to not aloways have the VRAM at max clocks which increases power draw and temps.

 

[DoLlyBirD]

My RX5700 has this bug and I decided to have my monitor refresh rate to 120Hz instead of 144Hz in order to not aloways have the VRAM at max clocks which increases power draw and temps.

I have dealt with it for a couple of years with a 5600 xt before my 6700 xt and it has been present with both cards, the last working driver that didn't do it was a 2019 one iirc but I won't be using 3 year old drivers, you should try 22.5.2 drivers, I have just reinstalled these and vRAM is running at 30-70mhz as I'm typing this, 1080p 165hz

 

[Lew Zealand]

My RX5700 has this bug and I decided to have my monitor refresh rate to 120Hz instead of 144Hz in order to not aloways have the VRAM at max clocks which increases power draw and temps.

I do the same with my 5600XT. However my 6600XT's VRAM clocks down properly at all monitor refresh rates. An occasional person has made the snide comment that RDNA was a beta test whereas RDNA2 is the final product. While I think this is an exaggeration, there's a grain of truth in there.

 

[AusWolf]

Update:

Running 22.6.1 drivers vRAM is now running full speed again at anything above 100hz on my monitor, FFS AMD 1 step forward and 2 steps back, going back to 22.5.2 for now and will raise a ticket with them and wait with baited breath

5-6w usage in 2d makes a BIG difference to 26w when vram is running full speed and also kicks up the temperature to 50c+ from under 40c which is unneccesary

Unless the VRAM running at normal speeds with 22.5.2 is a bug, not a feature, and AMD "corrected" it in 22.6.1 (I hope not).

 

[B_Bang]

Wish they'd fix the horrendous driver control panel performance, constantly crashing, taking ages to switch from one tab to another, corrupting saved profiles for no reason... the cards are good but the software, man. Thankfully someone was bright enough to add an option to install just the drivers and skip all the bloatware.

Can't say I've had any issues like that across 3 rigs in the house... 5700xt, 6600, 6700xt... RX480, RX580, RX570 before those.... Sounds more like ram or CPU memory controller issue.