AMD Overclockers Club

[rick22]

i agree if you bitch start helping....to bitch is easy to help ?? well start helping....

 

[Athlon2K15]

SUCK ON THIS!!!

 

[rick22]

athlon you rock....your the man....thanks for all the work you have put in...again thanks

 

[erocker]

OMFG Athlon the 1st pic was way funnier!!!

 

[Athlon2K15]

i know but i dont need to be banned

 

[sneekypeet]

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha......Oh well i say go for the gusto Athlon!

 

[sneekypeet]

shit I may just let the thing hit the floor and let the mother f----r burn.

The club ,the club ,the club is on fire...we dont need no water, let it burn!

 

[theonetruewill]

I am using the 12x right now.If have run prime 95 and other stress test and have got errors if i lower the v-core this X2 is vary volts hungry to get a 100mhz overclock i have to up the v-core to 1.4v to get it stable. I think i got a bad chip maybe i should have got an opty 1210 and not this. you get the point.

Why didn't you get the 65nm EE version. It's standard vcore is 1.25v. It means oc'ing the thing is easy as pie. Just whack up the voltage. I'm limited by my crappy board. I'm thinking about an Asus Crosshair...

 

[theonetruewill]

i didn't know if my board could use it or not and i didn't think to check the list to see if it was.It isn't 65nm btw it is 65w.

Nope mine is 65nm. Read this

 

[theonetruewill]

The 5000+ not the 4600+ or at least they didn't have a 4600+ 65nm when i got mine.

Yeah, but I have one of the 4600's that was EE (65nm- it says so on the box too). I got it for £25 under the normal 4600 price as well... a bit odd... Shame- these ones stay cooler - obviously

 

[Wile E]

Why didn't you get the 65nm EE version. It's standard vcore is 1.25v. It means oc'ing the thing is easy as pie. Just whack up the voltage. I'm limited by my crappy board. I'm thinking about an Asus Crosshair...

Don't get the Crosshair, get this instead. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131163

Cheaper, and clocks just as well.

 

[Wile E]

@sneekypeet and Athlon - I don't want to see you guys go. You both do a fine job. Just because some disagree with your views, is no reason to give it up.

This is a place with many people in it, there's bound to be disagreements. Granted, some are handled better than others, but it's inevitable, none the less.

I personally believe the 754s and A64 tweaking programs should be allowed. I mean, were all here to overclock our AMDs and have fun, We shouldn't try to limit that because we have a preference to different hardware, or methods of overclocking, compared to someone else.

 

[sneekypeet]

the club is still here and ppl are posting...I just feel strongly on 2 issues. ! being the Ownership thing ,(dont really want to own it ,but feel there is more than just a membership when postin scores and taking care) #2 is just a personal issue with 3rd party apps that allow settings that the bios cant perform. I understand if your bios is locked, but if you own a OC'ing mobo use it not the app.

Like i say not looking for sympathy or anything, but if it is the members that make the club "what it is" , then lets see how the club does with all indians and no cheifs!

 

[Tatty_Two]

the club is still here and ppl are posting...I just feel strongly on 2 issues. ! being the Ownership thing ,(dont really want to own it ,but feel there is more than just a membership when postin scores and taking care) #2 is just a personal issue with 3rd party apps that allow settings that the bios cant perform. I understand if your bios is locked, but if you own a OC'ing mobo use it not the app.

Like i say not looking for sympathy or anything, but if it is the members that make the club "what it is" , then lets see how the club does with all indians and no cheifs!

I could not agree with you more and I personally have no issues with anyone but to me it's not about Cheifs or Indians, you always need chiefs but a club is about consultation not just a snap decision on what should or should not be because you feel like it on a particular day, when a chief just throws his Teddy bear in the corner in a tantrum because someone feels like it and does not consult members on issues, then they are not chiefs but schoolboys.

I happen to agree with you that using shall we say 3rd party software is not necessarily a good thing but to change rules without consultation that forceably removes members (who have a S754 as their main rig) is unfair, if I may suggest, have a set of rules, dont just make them up as you go along to suit yourself and disadvantage another and if you want to exclude someone from the club tell him straight, dont just ban his equipment....sorry just my thoughts, it's just a point of principle for me.

Anyways, you will be pleased to know my 4000+ is just about to go on flea bay so I wont be bothering you anymore! I have always thought that the key 2 or 3 players here have done a fantastic job which is the main reason why this club has lasted so long with active posts unlike many others but I would hate it reduced to just a few active users as it has a wealth of information for any AMD owners to use.

 

[sneekypeet]

I havent abolished anything ...I'm just posting my concerns. As stated previously its the generalizations that hurt to me.

Tatty it seems to me like your issue lies with Athlon. I have yet to take any changes into my own hands. I even say previously I thought it was wrong for the apps, but it was allowed and shall continue to be. Then Athlon says no 754 and the generalization is like I had control of his decision or post.

This isnt a personal dig at anyone. Just me stating where I'm comming from as a member who changes scores. no more no less.

Personally I dont want to kick anyone out, just that I'd like everyone to be on fair turf. I just personally believe if the OC isnt done in bios, it isnt a true test. Kinda like useing ntune to do it for you. Whats the challenge in that. But I digress, I dont want to hurt the posting of members , nor the shitload of info in here for the beginners. just dont really think if I have an issue with what ppl are doing that I should be a leading part. Tatty you of all ppl should understand that , as you have gone for similar reasons!

 

[Steevo]

So I should have to reset my CMOS every time that I go too far? Seems like a waste of time too me.



Back in the jumper and DIP switch days I did all my wok with the top off the box, and now occasionally I do my work with them on their side. But why not use software that controls the hardware, almost like the BIOS software controls the hardware, only without the CMOS resets. Seems silly to me to have to reset every time. Then set the BIOS accordingly, or add the program to the startup programs at boot time.



Hell, now according to him I will have to hack my BIOS and hope that I do it right, or understand that for all purposes and uses it runs faster than his, just with "not true or shit" overclocking. Something smells and it isn't my OC.

 

[sneekypeet]

my message isn't that the app shouldnt be used at all, but when you got for the top of the list ,I feel it should be bios options only. No 0's or 1's if bios doesn't allow it. As for useing it as a test method for things , by all means go for it.

Just that if you want top biling it should be reasonable for anyone to do for real....just not a 1 shot deal that the poster knows they wouldn't run at long term! I am also aware of suicide runs but even those should be done in bios IMO. This is why I felt I should just step away for a bit , as I dont want to poke bears with big stix until i get bit. I just dont completely agree with everything , so I fell I shouldn't be in "control" either.


Athlon was nice enough to give me the form for the score list , if someone else would like to take the reigns PM me and I will get the form to you!

 

[Tatty_Two]

I havent abolished anything ...I'm just posting my concerns. As stated previously its the generalizations that hurt to me.

Tatty it seems to me like your issue lies with Athlon. I have yet to take any changes into my own hands. I even say previously I thought it was wrong for the apps, but it was allowed and shall continue to be. Then Athlon says no 754 and the generalization is like I had control of his decision or post.

This isnt a personal dig at anyone. Just me stating where I'm comming from as a member who changes scores. no more no less.

Personally I dont want to kick anyone out, just that I'd like everyone to be on fair turf. I just personally believe if the OC isnt done in bios, it isnt a true test. Kinda like useing ntune to do it for you. Whats the challenge in that. But I digress, I dont want to hurt the posting of members , nor the shitload of info in here for the beginners. just dont really think if I have an issue with what ppl are doing that I should be a leading part. Tatty you of all ppl should understand that , as you have gone for similar reasons!

You kind of misunderstand me, I have no issues with you at all, I have no issues with anyone in or running this club, my points were directed towards Athlon but I dont have any "issues" with him, at the end of the day, like you, he has put a lot of work into maintaining this thread, I guess my point is that I dont want to see that work undone by a couple of silly mistakes (IMO) that are made independently of the guys that enjoy the thread.

I didnt actually stop regularily posting here because of the first thing that Athlon did that I disagreed with unlike some that did go, purely because the thread is not about just what I want, if you check the posts I remained, I only stopped really because I went C2D although for sentimental reasons I held onto my 4000+.

At the end of the day, it's called the "AMD overclockers club" if you, Athlon or anyone else want to impose any rulz or restrictions thats completely your choice all I am saying is that IMO the membership or at least the regular users should at least be consulted, but again, my opinion. Some could argue that using software to improve performance that cannot be gleaned from the BIOS is a good thing, others might think that the club represents overclocking on any AMD, whatever the case all I am saying is it might be a good idea to set the rulz once agreed and then everyone is clear.....I will shut up now

 

[sneekypeet]

LOL no need to shut up...and thanks for the clerification.

Also yes I completely agree with the way it should be done as well. Consultation or a sticky of rules should have been a must. Hopefully you do at least come in time to time and scholl some of the noobs, so they dont get stuck on the same hurdles we already jumped over....Agreed end.

 

[Tatty_Two]

LOL no need to shut up...and thanks for the clerification.

Also yes I completely agree with the way it should be done as well. Consultation or a sticky of rules should have been a must. Hopefully you do at least come in time to time and scholl some of the noobs, so they dont get stuck on the same hurdles we already jumped over....Agreed end.

 

[cdawall]

here my look on it s939 DIED Before S754 thus the more obsolete socket would appear to be s939 ( i kno thats not really the case) so if you knock out s754 you may as well kill s939 since AMD decided it was less profitable the s754 in the end not to mention s754 is still being sold as a mobile varient of socket AM2 under a different name but it is still the same socket and same exact connectot the chips just carry a DDR2 controller instead of a DDR1 controller.

if you want to go knock out systems because they out do yours in one test or another than the compition is gone from the club and the club leaves you. honestly the way you have been posting lately (AthlonX2) reminds me of a fourth grader and if you wish to behave that way im sure the mods can open up some room in the TPU ban hotel

 

[Fox34]

Dude, 939 more obsolete than 754 I have no idea what your talking about or getting at, 754 was crap and barely used, 939 was one of the most widely used Socket types in its time. But its kinda true, I'm sorry that my 939 Overclocks and Performs better than AM2 or what not. Not my fault, I just know what I'm Doing.

 

[cdawall]

( i kno thats not really the case)

read more b4 you post fox

Dude, 939 more obsolete than 754 I have no idea what your talking about or getting at, 754 was crap and barely used, 939 was one of the most widely used Socket types in its time. But its kinda true, I'm sorry that my 939 Overclocks and Performs better than AM2 or what not. Not my fault, I just know what I'm Doing.

oh and if you would notice s754 chips oc'd like hell for the $70 less you would spend when s939 came out by simply forgoing dual channel. s754 used the same chips the same chipsets so how the hell is the chip crap in comparison to s939? you get better lats on s754 and you get an extra 1x multi on your chip

and your system does not outperfrom sAM2 by any means a 3ghz chip performs the same, if not better on AM2

oh and barely used my ass the socket is in ALMOST EVERY LAPTOP MADE BY AMD

 

[Fox34]

Yea laptops, its a low watt socket, laptops are not made to perform well. And yes I saw your not the case part, but still what are you talking about more obsolete? And I sometimes can out perform am2, If my proc was on DDR2 than it would. Also, Ive seen incredibly high OC's on 939, compared to alot of these x2's not going super far, hell My friends 939 Opty is at 3. It started at 2. Most 939's will OC way high.

EDIT: Its not really us who should be fitting although, its kinda like,
Tough, we OC and perform on old procs, get used it.

 

[cdawall]

Yea laptops, its a low watt socket, laptops are not made to perform well. And yes I saw your not the case part, but still what are you talking about more obsolete? And I sometimes can out perform am2, If my proc was on DDR2 than it would. Also, Ive seen incredibly high OC's on 939, compared to alot of these x2's not going super far, hell My friends 939 Opty is at 3. It started at 2. Most 939's will OC way high.

samething happens on s754 and its those vary low watt turion64 lappy chips that can go form 1.6ghz to 3.2ghz on s754 oh and the opty is no big 3ghz is common on sAM2 optys as well look up the opty 1210 3.4ghz is the standard oc form 1.8ghz i think thats one hell of a clock.

look for yourself s939 overclocks the same as all the other sockets out there
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59753
WR database at XS

and i really dont know what you classify as "real high" but almost all of the X2 chips will do 3ghz on AM2 not so true for s939 closer to 2.7-2.9ghz (unless its an opty)

please do some research before you make a blanket statment of utter BS