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...and as expected, while HBM was an interesting experiment, but at the same cost as a 980 Ti, the requirement of having to find a place to put a AIO water cooler, and sub-par overclocking performance in comparison to the 980 Ti, I think that it's safe to say that GPU prices aren't going anywhere and that my suspicious of HBM not making night and day difference seems to be true. I suspect it's more bandwidth than the GPU can utilize and we're probably not seeing huge differences because memory probably wasn't a bottleneck yet.
Either way, unless I see a really good reason, I'm getting pushed towards the green camp and I'm a little bummed that the hype was (once again,) overstated. Not to say that this isn't an interesting experiment, it's just a costly experiment that I would rather spend on something a little more proven while the technology evolves. Clearly AMD has some tweaking to do.
You may have hit the nail on the head.
We've been presented with a deluge of strategic errors from AMD this last few years. From Piledriver architecture with cores sharing FPU and cache to Fury's HBM and its probable limitations, with more in between.
Add to that tactical errors like the 290/290x release weeks before the custom coolers where available and you have a company directed by idiots.
Precisely what I have been saying these past years on every slide from AMD that came past and screamed awesomeness, and on every forum user here that said HBM was going to change the world. It is nothing new: AMD has a new tech, AMD markets it as the future, the future seems very far away on release of said tech. They have fundamental timing and time-to-market issues, fundamental marketing shortcomings, and develop products ahead of their prime.
My most optimistic approach was a 10% gain over 980ti stock, and even with a max overclock on Fury you won't even get near.
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