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Processor | AMD Ryzen 5700X |
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Motherboard | MSI X470 |
Cooling | Assassin King 120 |
Memory | 16GB DDR4 |
Video Card(s) | 6700XT |
Storage | SK Hynix Platinum |
Same fate as 5060ti 8GB
Processor | AMD Ryzen 5700X |
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Motherboard | MSI X470 |
Cooling | Assassin King 120 |
Memory | 16GB DDR4 |
Video Card(s) | 6700XT |
Storage | SK Hynix Platinum |
System Name | Mean machine |
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Processor | AMD 6900HS |
Memory | 2x16 GB 4800C40 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 6700S |
I can look at your graph and raise you this review that shows the total opposite:
No they won't. You are just making stuff up. You want 8gb version to not exist because you might get confused and buy the 8gb instead of the 16? What are you actually saying?No, because the obscenely expensive 8GB versions of cards are going to cause support headaches, confusion, misinformation, and artificially jack up the price of cards with modern VRAM allotments.
It's called inflation. Food was less than half the price a decade ago. 6 decades ago my grandpa bought a house with the equivalent of 100€....What is your point?[/url]Even if you LIKE 8GB for some bizarre reason, you do realize that 8GB RX 480s were $229 9 years ago right? How is a card with the same VRAM nearly a decade later worth more then half of that?
System Name | Valfenda |
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Processor | 12700KF |
Motherboard | TUF Gaming Z690 Plus WiFi DDR5 |
Cooling | Phantom Spirit 120 |
Memory | T Create 32GB DDR5 CL30 6Ghz |
Video Card(s) | XFX Merc 6650XT |
Storage | 970 Evo Plus 2TB / tcreate 500gb ssd |
Display(s) | Koorui 23.8'' 1440p |
Case | QUBE 500 Flatpack No dust filters| 3x Antec Storm T3 140mm |
Audio Device(s) | Micca ooo | 2.1 ch amp. 50w+50w+100w |
Power Supply | Cooler Master MWE 850 V2 |
Mouse | Pulsefire Haste Wired |
Keyboard | Keychron K4 V2 |
Software | Windows 11 Pro |
System Name | Mean machine |
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Processor | AMD 6900HS |
Memory | 2x16 GB 4800C40 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 6700S |
You can't play a lot of games with just 4gb but why would I mind if a 4gb version existed? I really don't care, let them 2gb version for all I care. If people wanna buy it, why would I bothered, as long as the version I want is also available? Doesn't make sense to me.no roll out of a 4GB version for the "enthusiast" gamer?
System Name | The |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X |
Motherboard | ASUS PRIME B550-PLUS AC-HES |
Cooling | Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE |
Memory | Silicon Power 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3200 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 2080S FE | 1060 3GB & 1050Ti 4GB In Storage |
Display(s) | Gigabyte G27Q (1440p / 170hz DP) |
Case | SAMA SV01 |
Power Supply | Firehazard in the making |
Mouse | Corsair Nightsword |
Keyboard | Steelseries Apex Pro |
IF the price sucks. (GDDR6 chips are pretty cheap, so it should be relatively cheaper no matter what) RT is probably not gonna be good anyway if I had to figure.Same fate as 5060ti 8GB
System Name | Skunkworks 3.0 |
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Processor | 5800x3d |
Motherboard | x570 unify |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U12A |
Memory | 32GB 3600 mhz |
Video Card(s) | asrock 6800xt challenger D |
Storage | Sabarent rocket 4.0 2TB, MX 500 2TB |
Display(s) | Asus 1440p144 27" |
Case | Old arse cooler master 932 |
Power Supply | Corsair 1200w platinum |
Mouse | *squeak* |
Keyboard | Some old office thing |
Software | Manjaro |
Oh wait, hang on a sec:Your review is testing 4k. Bud come on..
Hmmm.....Seems like you only like reviews that back up your opinions....So you don't trust reviewers, just the ones that already agree with your opinion.
Seems you are rather confused.No they won't. You are just making stuff up. You want 8gb version to not exist because you might get confused and buy the 8gb instead of the 16? What are you actually saying?
This is hyperbole. Your grandpa did not buy a house for the equivalent of $100, in any era. That's not how inflation works. You PROBABLY meant: "my grandpa bought a home for $100 6 decades ago" which would still be wrong, but might have made more sense in implying the currency has become highly devalued.It's called inflation. Food was less than half the price a decade ago. 6 decades ago my grandpa bought a house with the equivalent of 100€....What is your point?[/url]
Because that 4GB versions would be pushed out for $379, the 8GB raised to $450, and so on.You can't play a lot of games with just 4gb but why would I mind if a 4gb version existed? I really don't care, let them 2gb version for all I care. If people wanna buy it, why would I bothered, as long as the version I want is also available? Doesn't make sense to me.
System Name | Sillencio |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7600 |
Motherboard | Asrock B650M Lightning |
Cooling | Thermalright Phantom Spirit ARGB |
Memory | G.Skill FLARE 5200MHZ EXpo |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire RX 7600 Pulse |
Storage | WD NVME 1TB |
Display(s) | AOC 27" LED - e2752Vq |
Case | Coolermaster Silencio 652S |
Power Supply | EVGA 750GT GOLD |
Mouse | ADVANCE 210 |
Keyboard | Microsoft Sidewinder X4 |
Software | Windows 11 64 |
System Name | Mean machine |
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Processor | AMD 6900HS |
Memory | 2x16 GB 4800C40 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 6700S |
I wasn't the one that suggested "I don't trust random people but reviews". I have multiple 8gb cards, don't need to rely on reviews.Oh wait, hang on a sec:
Hmmm.....Seems like you only like reviews that back up your opinions....
People buying the wrong product has nothing to do with whether or not 8gb cards should exist. People might read the review of the 5080 and buy a 5070 instead. So whatI was pretty clear: the existence of a 8GB version is going to cause problems when people buy the 8GB card after reading 16G reviews only to have problems the 16GB cards do not have. We are a tech forum, if you dont understand how that will result in complaint posts here you havent browsed enough.
I used €, and since euros did not exist back then, that's why I said the equivalent. The wages back then was 0.04cents in my country and yes, 100€ could buy you a house. Inflation.This is hyperbole. Your grandpa did not buy a house for the equivalent of $100, in any era. That's not how inflation works. You PROBABLY meant: "my grandpa bought a home for $100 6 decades ago" which would still be wrong, but might have made more sense in implying the currency has become highly devalued.
Your argument would make sense if the 8gb version was the most expensive one. It isn't. It is in fact the cheapest. So pretending that somehow 8gb cards are raising prices is ludicrous. GPUs are expensive nowadays for whatever reason and the amount of vram is completely irrelevant. If the 5060ti 8gb cost 100$ then the 16gb version would be 130$ and you would still be here arguing that 8gb cards shouldn't exist.Inflation does not justify the price either. With inflation that 480 would be $ 309. The 8GB 5060ti is $379 MSRP. And the RX480 8GB is using double density memory chips, which is being used in the 16GB cards. The equivalent of the 8GB 5060ti would be the 4GB 480, which was only $199.
8GB cards should not cost more than $100 today. They are obsolete, and going forward will only become Moreso, just like 2GB and 512MB cards.
System Name | Tiny the White Yeti |
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Processor | 7800X3D |
Motherboard | MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi |
Cooling | CPU: Thermalright Peerless Assassin / Case: Phanteks T30-120 x3 |
Memory | 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000 |
Video Card(s) | ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming |
Storage | Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB |
Display(s) | Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440) |
Case | Lian Li A3 mATX White |
Audio Device(s) | Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova G2 750W |
Mouse | Steelseries Aerox 5 |
Keyboard | Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II |
VR HMD | HD 420 - Green Edition ;) |
Software | W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC |
Benchmark Scores | Over 9000 |
All it takes is a sliver of common sense to realize that a card twice as fast as an 8GB card six years ago, still carrying 8GB but with a slightly higher bandwidth, isn't going to be a well balanced product.im taking comments with a grain of salt, multiple sites show the 5060 Ti 8GB isnt a vaible option at its price point and for the advertised features such as RT. Some game even refuse to run proper on that card. Going outside of TPU and gathering more info is important when having these types of discussions as alot of FUD is being said
im taking comments with a grain of salt, multiple sites show the 5060 Ti 8GB isnt a vaible option at its price point and for the advertised features such as RT. Some game even refuse
You are talking about a Radeon 9050 or 9040. The 9060 will never fit into a SFF case because they can not be made half-height. The power profile is too high.Lets just hope one of the cards is LP friendly, or at least single fan. Give the SFF folks a lifeline for those with <5L builds.
System Name | Mean machine |
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Processor | AMD 6900HS |
Memory | 2x16 GB 4800C40 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 6700S |
Using that sliver of common sense the 9070xt is DOA, since it carries the same vram buffer while being 3 times as fast as a card from 6 years ago (radeon VII). Right? Actually scratch the 3 times fast fast, it's probably 50 times as fast in RT workloads. Yet, it has the same vram buffer...All it takes is a sliver of common sense to realize that a card twice as fast as an 8GB card six years ago, still carrying 8GB but with a slightly higher bandwidth, isn't going to be a well balanced product.
System Name | Tiny the White Yeti |
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Processor | 7800X3D |
Motherboard | MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi |
Cooling | CPU: Thermalright Peerless Assassin / Case: Phanteks T30-120 x3 |
Memory | 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000 |
Video Card(s) | ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming |
Storage | Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB |
Display(s) | Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440) |
Case | Lian Li A3 mATX White |
Audio Device(s) | Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova G2 750W |
Mouse | Steelseries Aerox 5 |
Keyboard | Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II |
VR HMD | HD 420 - Green Edition ;) |
Software | W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC |
Benchmark Scores | Over 9000 |
Thanks for confirming yet again common sense is lost on you here on TPU. We're done hereUsing that sliver of common sense the 9070xt is DOA, since it carries the same vram buffer while being 3 times as fast as a card from 6 years ago (radeon VII). Right? Actually scratch the 3 times fast fast, it's probably 50 times as fast in RT workloads. Yet, it has the same vram buffer...
That's a damn shame, as Nvidia has a LP 5060 8gb in the works.You are talking about a Radeon 9050 or 9040. The 9060 will never fit into a SFF case because they can not be made half-height. The power profile is too high.
System Name | The |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X |
Motherboard | ASUS PRIME B550-PLUS AC-HES |
Cooling | Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE |
Memory | Silicon Power 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3200 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 2080S FE | 1060 3GB & 1050Ti 4GB In Storage |
Display(s) | Gigabyte G27Q (1440p / 170hz DP) |
Case | SAMA SV01 |
Power Supply | Firehazard in the making |
Mouse | Corsair Nightsword |
Keyboard | Steelseries Apex Pro |
A LP 9060 could still happen maybe. He was talking specifically about the 9060XT. I'm pretty sure leaks still suggest a 9060 might happen.That's a damn shame, as Nvidia has a LP 5060 8gb in the works.
System Name | Mean machine |
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Processor | AMD 6900HS |
Memory | 2x16 GB 4800C40 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 6700S |
Using your own argument against you is brutal isn't it?Thanks for confirming yet again common sense is lost on you here on TPU. We're done here![]()
System Name | Tiny the White Yeti |
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Processor | 7800X3D |
Motherboard | MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi |
Cooling | CPU: Thermalright Peerless Assassin / Case: Phanteks T30-120 x3 |
Memory | 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000 |
Video Card(s) | ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming |
Storage | Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB |
Display(s) | Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440) |
Case | Lian Li A3 mATX White |
Audio Device(s) | Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova G2 750W |
Mouse | Steelseries Aerox 5 |
Keyboard | Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II |
VR HMD | HD 420 - Green Edition ;) |
Software | W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC |
Benchmark Scores | Over 9000 |
No... no. Its not that. Common sense. You can solve that mystery by yourself surely. It relates closely to how data works in VRAM.Using your own argument against you is brutal isn't it?
System Name | DevKit |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 ↗4.0GHz |
Motherboard | Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus WiFi |
Cooling | Koolance CPU-300-H06, Koolance GPU-180-L06, SC800 Pump |
Memory | 4x16GB Ballistix 3200MT/s ↗3800 |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor RX 580 Red Devil 8GB ↗1380MHz ↘1105mV, PowerColor RX 7900 XT Hellhound 20GB |
Storage | 240GB Corsair MP510, 120GB KingDian S280 |
Display(s) | Nixeus VUE-24 (1080p144) |
Case | Koolance PC2-601BLW + Koolance EHX1020CUV Radiator Kit |
Audio Device(s) | Oculus CV-1 |
Power Supply | Antec Earthwatts EA-750 Semi-Modular |
Mouse | Easterntimes Tech X-08, Zelotes C-12 |
Keyboard | Logitech 106-key, Romoral 15-Key Macro, Royal Kludge RK84 |
VR HMD | Oculus CV-1 |
Software | Windows 10 Pro Workstation, VMware Workstation 16 Pro, MS SQL Server 2016, Fan Control v120, Blender |
Benchmark Scores | Cinebench R15: 1590cb Cinebench R20: 3530cb (7.83x451cb) CPU-Z 17.01.64: 481.2/3896.8 VRMark: 8009 |
and shot straight to the moon during a period of peak Etherium mining...~$450ish.It’s been nearly a decade since the RX 480 8GB launched at $229
No. My 580 is a fairly slow core with 8GB of GDDR5. This era of cards are PCI-E g4/g5 super fast core on GDDR6/GDDR6X/GDDR7.and yet, here we are in 2025, stagnant on the same 8GB. Somehow, some people are actually content with this mess?
Actually based.That's a damn shame, as Nvidia has a LP 5060 8gb in the works.
Processor | i7-13700k (undervolts -0.140 volts) |
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Motherboard | Asus Tuf Gaming z790-plus |
Cooling | Coolermaster Hyper 212 RGB |
Memory | Corsair Vengeance RGB 32GB DDR5 7000mhz |
Video Card(s) | Asus Dual Geforce RTX 4070 Super ( 2800mhz @ 1.0volt, ~60mhz overlock -.1volts) |
Storage | 1x Samsung 980 Pro PCIe4 NVme, 2x Samsung 1tb 850evo SSD, 3x WD drives, 2 seagate |
Display(s) | Acer Predator XB273u 27inch IPS G-Sync 165hz |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech Z906 5.1 |
Power Supply | Corsair RMx Series RM850x (OCZ Z series PSU retired after 13 years of service) |
Mouse | Logitech G502 hero |
Keyboard | Logitech G710+ |
Probably due to all people mad at nvidia for even making an 8gb card. AMD decided to keep on track to push one out and not decided to hold it up. I expected AMD to get less flak cause its AMD making one.Reviewers have been making 10s of videos about 8gb nvidia cards, but somehow they treat the amd 8gb cards harsher![]()
Nvidia cards i think can get away with 8gb longer then amd cards due to the memory compression. I remember seeing a lot of side by side videos where nvidia card would be 500-1.5gb less vram usage at times depending on game. Havn't heard anything from amd side coming up with and new compression technique's so if things are still same i could see tests between 16gb and 8gb amd card showing more variance in fps compared to 5060ti which only had if i remember 2 games outta their games test list 8gb down. Really to be fair of the 2 games were 8gb was down 10%, 1 of games was monster hunter wilds the game only ran 45-50fps on both cards so i most people would play a game that low fps and not turn settings down which would probably solve that gap.One can say AMD doesn’t do so well with RT, that need more ram, so with no RT and less memory need thay are good at 8GB while NV is bad with 8GB.
One can also say this is biased as shit.
I mean, I guess 8GB still makes sense for 1080p low everything if you just need to run a game and don't care about looks, but price needs to seriously reflect that. Otherwise it's pointless.
Then again, why not have RX 9060 series as 16GB only and turn RX 9060 8GB into RX 9050 8GB and just offer it as that, a single RX 9050 SKU that only comes in 8GB option. There is no point in gutting RX 9060 any further, honestly as it's already pretty low in terms of performance, but memory difference could be detrimental not all that long term.
So, the lineup would go like:
RX 9070 XT 16GB
RX 9070 16GB
RX 9060 XT 16GB
RX 9060 16GB
RX 9050 8GB (just renamed RX 9060, but with only 8GB VRAM)
That would totally make sense. And AMD should go into a marketing push of "8GB is not enough" themselves. Seeing how NVIDIA is fumbling around with memory capacity all the time, that would be great opportunity to market on. Especially since all reviewers are on board with this too. But they didn't take on that for some reason which is such a missed opportunity.
System Name | Mean machine |
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Processor | AMD 6900HS |
Memory | 2x16 GB 4800C40 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 6700S |
Agreed, I'm using a 3060ti on a 3440x1440 monitor."1080p low everything"
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And there's my 3070 happily running most games at 1440p high settings (or if possible, 4k with DLSS), with some slightly older games like Forza Horizon 4 running as high as 4k120.
System Name | Tiny the White Yeti |
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Processor | 7800X3D |
Motherboard | MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi |
Cooling | CPU: Thermalright Peerless Assassin / Case: Phanteks T30-120 x3 |
Memory | 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000 |
Video Card(s) | ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming |
Storage | Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB |
Display(s) | Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440) |
Case | Lian Li A3 mATX White |
Audio Device(s) | Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova G2 750W |
Mouse | Steelseries Aerox 5 |
Keyboard | Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II |
VR HMD | HD 420 - Green Edition ;) |
Software | W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC |
Benchmark Scores | Over 9000 |
That info is as old as Maxwell buddy. All vendors deploy delta compression these days. There is no usage gap in vram.Probably due to all people mad at nvidia for even making an 8gb card. AMD decided to keep on track to push one out and not decided to hold it up. I expected AMD to get less flak cause its AMD making one.
Nvidia cards i think can get away with 8gb longer then amd cards due to the memory compression. I remember seeing a lot of side by side videos where nvidia card would be 500-1.5gb less vram usage at times depending on game. Havn't heard anything from amd side coming up with and new compression technique's so if things are still same i could see tests between 16gb and 8gb amd card showing more variance in fps compared to 5060ti which only had if i remember 2 games outta their games test list 8gb down. Really to be fair of the 2 games were 8gb was down 10%, 1 of games was monster hunter wilds the game only ran 45-50fps on both cards so i most people would play a game that low fps and not turn settings down which would probably solve that gap.
System Name | Mean machine |
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Processor | AMD 6900HS |
Memory | 2x16 GB 4800C40 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 6700S |
Actually there is, a big one. In on my phone now I'll give you some links when I'm back home showing nvidia cards with the same amount of vram as amd ones using considerably less vram or system ram.That info is as old as Maxwell buddy. All vendors deploy delta compression these days. There is no usage gap in vram.
Processor | i7-13700k (undervolts -0.140 volts) |
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Motherboard | Asus Tuf Gaming z790-plus |
Cooling | Coolermaster Hyper 212 RGB |
Memory | Corsair Vengeance RGB 32GB DDR5 7000mhz |
Video Card(s) | Asus Dual Geforce RTX 4070 Super ( 2800mhz @ 1.0volt, ~60mhz overlock -.1volts) |
Storage | 1x Samsung 980 Pro PCIe4 NVme, 2x Samsung 1tb 850evo SSD, 3x WD drives, 2 seagate |
Display(s) | Acer Predator XB273u 27inch IPS G-Sync 165hz |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech Z906 5.1 |
Power Supply | Corsair RMx Series RM850x (OCZ Z series PSU retired after 13 years of service) |
Mouse | Logitech G502 hero |
Keyboard | Logitech G710+ |
Ummmm head over to Youtube and look at comparison videos between amd and nvidia card there. on avg amd card is usually using 10% more vram then nvidia cards and depending on use of upscaler i seen it be even 20% more.That info is as old as Maxwell buddy. All vendors deploy delta compression these days. There is no usage gap in vram.