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Processor | Ryzen 5600X |
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Video Card(s) | RTX 3050 |
Software | Win11 |
Processor | Ryzen 5600X |
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Video Card(s) | RTX 3050 |
Software | Win11 |
Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 3700X |
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Motherboard | MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK |
Cooling | AMD Wraith Prism |
Memory | Team Group Dark Pro 8Pack Edition 3600Mhz CL16 |
Video Card(s) | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 FE |
Storage | Kingston A2000 1TB + Seagate HDD workhorse |
Display(s) | Samsung 50" QN94A Neo QLED |
Case | Antec 1200 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus GX-850 |
Mouse | Razer Deathadder Chroma |
Keyboard | Logitech UltraX |
Software | Windows 11 |
I have to agree with you as well. Now look, I suspect Vega will be receiving several large performance increases from drivers/game optimizations over the course of the next year.
Having said that, right now Vega is not at all impressive for gaming from a technology demonstration perspective. It's good for the price given how ridiculous the market is right now, and for professional uses it's somewhat disruptive. However this is not some big stepping stone for Radeon gaming, not even CLOSE. Big Polaris would have probably beaten or met this while being cheaper to produce (And launching a year ago lol).
System Name | Compy 386 |
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Processor | 7800X3D |
Motherboard | Asus |
Cooling | Air for now..... |
Memory | 64 GB DDR5 6400Mhz |
Video Card(s) | 7900XTX 310 Merc |
Storage | Samsung 990 2TB, 2 SP 2TB SSDs and over 10TB spinning |
Display(s) | 56" Samsung 4K HDR |
Audio Device(s) | ATI HDMI |
Mouse | Logitech MX518 |
Keyboard | Razer |
Software | A lot. |
Benchmark Scores | Its fast. Enough. |
And there we have a winner! Don't worry, the drivers will come and fix this product…
This product is already three months late; most driver optimizations are already baked in. These promises of future driver improvements never pan out.
Vega looks pretty bad considering it has a node shrink and so many more transistors and higher clock than Fiji.
By "high end" you mean large, heavy, noisy and usable only plugged in, right?But look how much more efficient RX 56 is compared to 64. With the right clocks/shader count and some nifty binning and more aggressive power saving I don't see why it wouldn't make it's way into high end laptops.
Considering these are first release drivers, things can only get better from here on.
System Name | Quantumville™ |
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Processor | Intel Core i7-2700K @ 4GHz |
Motherboard | Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D14 |
Memory | 16GB (2 x 8GB Corsair Vengeance Black DDR3 PC3-12800 C9 1600MHz) |
Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 2080 SUPER Gaming X Trio |
Storage | Samsung 850 Pro 256GB | WD Black 4TB | WD Blue 6TB |
Display(s) | ASUS ROG Strix XG27UQR (4K, 144Hz, G-SYNC compatible) | Asus MG28UQ (4K, 60Hz, FreeSync compatible) |
Case | Cooler Master HAF 922 |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty PCIe |
Power Supply | Corsair AX1600i |
Mouse | Microsoft Intellimouse Pro - Black Shadow |
Keyboard | Yes |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 64-bit |
Yes, it does sound a bit like they are using old technology, which is quite depressing when it's actually their latest and greatest. It looks to me like they're actually overclocking Vega significantly to reduce the framerate deficit against NVIDIA which is at least partly why the card runs so hot and loud. That coil whine is an indicator of just how much juice it's sucking down to do it, hence the 100W higher figures than NVIDIA. It's the usual lack of competition like this that lets NVIDIA take its time in releasing the consumer variant of Volta, milking the maximum amount of profit from Pascal.If they had these cards 1-2 years prior, that would have been a hell of a game changer and really pushed competition. The Vega 56 is mostly on par with a 1070, but draws more power. I could really push the OC On my 980Ti and not be far behind the Vega 56 (even the Fury X isn't far behind) and my card is already 2 years old. It looks like AMD appears to be almost 2 years behind Nvidia.
It's good to see AMD keeping in there, but unless they have something up their sleeves in the next year or so, Nvidia might really put the hurt on them. Navi is rumored to be out 2019, but will that be fast enough to keep up with Nvidia? They don't have anything to answer the 1080Ti right now. Volta most likely won't be around till mid 2018 based on rumors that production of consumer cards won't start until the end of this year (if we're lucky), but if all this holds true, Nvidia will have that 6+ month jump on AMD with the next generation. I wonder when AMD will truly catch up to Nvidia, right now that seems like a long way off.
Processor | Intel core i9 13900ks sp117 direct die |
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Motherboard | Asus Maximus Apex Z790 |
Cooling | Custom loop 3*360 45mm thick+ 3 x mo-ra3 420 +Dual D5 pump and dual ddc pump |
Memory | 2x24gb Gskill 8800c38 |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX 4090 Strix |
Storage | 1TB Samsung 860Evo,2*2tb Samsung 970Evo Plus, 1tb Intel 660p nvme |
Display(s) | Sammsung G7 32” |
Case | Dynamic XL |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Omni 5.1 usb sound card |
Power Supply | Corsair AX1600i |
Mouse | Model O- |
Keyboard | Hyper X Alloy Origin Core |
Processor | Ryzen 7 5700X |
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Memory | 48 GB |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4080 |
Storage | 2x HDD RAID 1, 3x M.2 NVMe |
Display(s) | 30" 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024 |
Software | Windows 10 64-bit |
always. for such kind of analysis, that goes beyond just copying what i wrote. gji hope i had permission to use your data
Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 5900X ||| Intel Core i7-3930K |
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Motherboard | ASUS ProArt B550-CREATOR ||| Asus P9X79 WS |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U14S ||| Be Quiet Pure Rock |
Memory | Crucial 2 x 16 GB 3200 MHz ||| Corsair 8 x 8 GB 1333 MHz |
Video Card(s) | MSI GTX 1060 3GB ||| MSI GTX 680 4GB |
Storage | Samsung 970 PRO 512 GB + 1 TB ||| Intel 545s 512 GB + 256 GB |
Display(s) | Asus ROG Swift PG278QR 27" ||| Eizo EV2416W 24" |
Case | Fractal Design Define 7 XL x 2 |
Audio Device(s) | Cambridge Audio DacMagic Plus |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus PX-850 x 2 |
Mouse | Razer Abyssus |
Keyboard | CM Storm QuickFire XT |
Software | Ubuntu |
So, we are still making up excuses?Vega is a compute chip that can also play some games. If anything it's great mining hardware.
System Name | Windows 10 64-bit Core i7 6700 |
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Processor | Intel Core i7 6700 |
Motherboard | Asus Z170M-PLUS |
Cooling | Corsair AIO |
Memory | 2 x 8 GB Kingston DDR4 2666 |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB |
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB, Seagate Baracuda 1 TB |
Display(s) | Dell P2414H |
Case | Corsair Carbide Air 540 |
Audio Device(s) | Realtek HD Audio |
Power Supply | Corsair TX v2 650W |
Mouse | Steelseries Sensei |
Keyboard | CM Storm Quickfire Pro, Cherry MX Reds |
Software | MS Windows 10 Pro 64-bit |
Raja, the world's greatest slackerThey literally can not fail.
System Name | Black Prometheus |
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Processor | |AMD Ryzen 7 1700X |
Motherboard | ASRock B550M Pro4|MSI X370 Gaming PLUS |
Cooling | Thermalright PA120 SE | AMD Stock Cooler |
Memory | G.Skill 64GB(2x32GB) 3200MHz | 32GB(4x8GB) DDR4 |
Video Card(s) | |AMD R9 290 |
Storage | Sandisk X300 512GB + WD Black 6TB+WD Black 6TB |
Display(s) | LG Nanocell85 49" 4K 120Hz + ACER AOPEN 34" 3440x1440 144Hz |
Case | DeepCool Matrexx 55 V3 w/ 6x120mm Intake + 3x120mm Exhaust |
Audio Device(s) | LG Dolby Atmos 5.1 |
Power Supply | Corsair RMX850 Fully Modular| EVGA 750W G2 |
Mouse | Logitech Trackman |
Keyboard | Logitech K350 |
Software | Windows 10 EDU x64 |
When will we get OC resultsalways. for such kind of analysis, that goes beyond just copying what i wrote. gj
System Name | SnowFire / The Reinforcer |
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Processor | i7 10700K 5.1ghz (24/7) / 2x Xeon E52650v2 |
Motherboard | Asus Strix Z490 / Dell Dual Socket (R720) |
Cooling | RX 360mm + 140mm Custom Loop / Dell Stock |
Memory | Corsair RGB 16gb DDR4 3000 CL 16 / DDR3 128gb 16 x 8gb |
Video Card(s) | GTX Titan XP (2025mhz) / Asus GTX 950 (No Power Connector) |
Storage | Samsung 970 1tb NVME and 2tb HDD x4 RAID 5 / 300gb x8 RAID 5 |
Display(s) | Acer XG270HU, Samsung G7 Odyssey (1440p 240hz) |
Case | Thermaltake Cube / Dell Poweredge R720 Rack Mount Case |
Audio Device(s) | Realtec ALC1150 (On board) |
Power Supply | Rosewill Lightning 1300Watt / Dell Stock 750 / Brick |
Mouse | Logitech G5 |
Keyboard | Logitech G19S |
Software | Windows 11 Pro / Windows Server 2016 |
System Name | Good enough |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen R9 7900 - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora Edge |
Motherboard | ASRock B650 Pro RS |
Cooling | 2x 360mm NexXxoS ST30 X-Flow, 1x 360mm NexXxoS ST30, 1x 240mm NexXxoS ST30 |
Memory | 32GB - FURY Beast RGB 5600 Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire RX 7900 XT - Alphacool Eisblock Aurora |
Storage | 1x Kingston KC3000 1TB 1x Kingston A2000 1TB, 1x Samsung 850 EVO 250GB , 1x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB |
Display(s) | LG UltraGear 32GN650-B + 4K Samsung TV |
Case | Phanteks NV7 |
Power Supply | GPS-750C |
Raja, the world's greatest slacker
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I think we already got them.When will we get OC results
Processor | Ryzen 5600X |
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Video Card(s) | RTX 3050 |
Software | Win11 |
Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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Processor | Intel i5-12600k |
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Motherboard | Asus H670 TUF |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer 34 |
Memory | 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX 1060 SC |
Storage | 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500 |
Display(s) | Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w |
Case | Raijintek Thetis |
Audio Device(s) | Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D |
Power Supply | Seasonic 620W M12 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Proteus Core |
Keyboard | G.Skill KM780R |
Software | Arch Linux + Win10 |
I don't know, after two years, in which time AMD effectively dismissed high end last year because apparently that's not where the money is, now AMD returns to the high end to give me... a slightly worse GTX 1080? Call that biased, but I just don't see this as a 86% card.That has nothing to do with it. Read the review without your personal Bias. The frame pacing, pricing, and power consumption when chill and other features are turned on make it the *decent* card that it is.
It's not a huge win, it's more like the special Olympics winner that showed up to run at the regular Olympics.... juice box required.
AMD will probably fix half the issues with games, and improve performance by 5% while miners buy the card and they profit, some, cause HBM2 and the die isn't cheap.
System Name | Windows 10 64-bit Core i7 6700 |
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Processor | Intel Core i7 6700 |
Motherboard | Asus Z170M-PLUS |
Cooling | Corsair AIO |
Memory | 2 x 8 GB Kingston DDR4 2666 |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB |
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB, Seagate Baracuda 1 TB |
Display(s) | Dell P2414H |
Case | Corsair Carbide Air 540 |
Audio Device(s) | Realtek HD Audio |
Power Supply | Corsair TX v2 650W |
Mouse | Steelseries Sensei |
Keyboard | CM Storm Quickfire Pro, Cherry MX Reds |
Software | MS Windows 10 Pro 64-bit |
Jensen's increasingly fancy leather jackets he sweats in under the lights and whole steering into auto industry are only the starting symptoms of mid life crisis. I expect it to culminate with him driving a motorcycle directly onto the stage for Volta release.neat leather jackets Jensen always wears with every Titan
Processor | Ryzen 7800X3D |
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Motherboard | MSI MAG Mortar B650 (wifi) |
Cooling | be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 |
Memory | 32GB Kingston Fury |
Video Card(s) | Gainward RTX4070ti |
Storage | Seagate FireCuda 530 M.2 1TB / Samsumg 960 Pro M.2 512Gb |
Display(s) | LG 32" 165Hz 1440p GSYNC |
Case | Asus Prime AP201 |
Audio Device(s) | On Board |
Power Supply | be quiet! Pure POwer M12 850w Gold (ATX3.0) |
Software | W10 |
When will we get OC results
Overclocking simply does not work on AMD's press driver. No matter what setting was chosen, the actual frequencies did not change. Apparently nobody tested overclocking before declaring the driver ready to give to the press.
Two days ago, AMD provided an updated driver for overclocking testing only, which claims to address this, but it came in too late, when I had already left for my summer vacation.
Processor | Ryzen 5600X |
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Video Card(s) | RTX 3050 |
Software | Win11 |
System Name | 4K-gaming |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X up to 5.05GHz |
Motherboard | Gigabyte B550M Aorus Elite |
Cooling | Custom loop (CPU+GPU, 240 & 120 rads) |
Memory | 32GB Kingston HyperX Fury @ DDR4-3466 |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor RX 6700 XT Fighter OC/UV |
Storage | ~4TB SSD + 6TB HDD |
Display(s) | Acer XV273K 4K120 + Lenovo L32p-30 4K60 |
Case | Corsair 4000D Airflow White |
Audio Device(s) | Asus TUF H3 Wireless |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova G2 750W |
Mouse | Logitech MX518 |
Keyboard | Roccat Vulcan 121 AIMO |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift CV1 |
Software | Windows 11 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | It runs Crysis remastered at 4K |
HD7970(Q1/2012) 6% slower than GTX680(Q1/2012)
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_680/27.html
HD6970(Q4/2010) 13% slower than GTX580(Q4/2010)
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon_HD_6970/29.html
the last Win at AMD was the HD5870(Q3/2009) wich was 17% faster than much older GTX285(Q4/2008), only possible because nvidia and tsmc had production-problems with the 400-series.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/Radeon_HD_5870/30.html
and in Q1/2010 it was beaten by 10% thru the GTX480, wich did a 28% generational jump from the GTX285 wich was over 1-year old at that time.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_480_Fermi/32.html
Processor | Intel Xeon E5-1650 v2 |
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Motherboard | ASUS P9X79 |
Video Card(s) | NVIDIA GTX 1080 FE |
Display(s) | ASUS PG43UQ |
VR HMD | Valve Index |
Software | Windows 7 |
Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 5900X ||| Intel Core i7-3930K |
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Motherboard | ASUS ProArt B550-CREATOR ||| Asus P9X79 WS |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U14S ||| Be Quiet Pure Rock |
Memory | Crucial 2 x 16 GB 3200 MHz ||| Corsair 8 x 8 GB 1333 MHz |
Video Card(s) | MSI GTX 1060 3GB ||| MSI GTX 680 4GB |
Storage | Samsung 970 PRO 512 GB + 1 TB ||| Intel 545s 512 GB + 256 GB |
Display(s) | Asus ROG Swift PG278QR 27" ||| Eizo EV2416W 24" |
Case | Fractal Design Define 7 XL x 2 |
Audio Device(s) | Cambridge Audio DacMagic Plus |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus PX-850 x 2 |
Mouse | Razer Abyssus |
Keyboard | CM Storm QuickFire XT |
Software | Ubuntu |
AMD stagnated since they gave up actually developing something new, while Nvidia keeps pushing forward.Vega is 30% away from 1080ti (stock).
Fury X was 10% max away from 980ti (stock).
Going back the 290X was only 5-10% away from the 780ti.
What happened?
Processor | Intel i5-12600k |
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Motherboard | Asus H670 TUF |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer 34 |
Memory | 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX 1060 SC |
Storage | 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500 |
Display(s) | Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w |
Case | Raijintek Thetis |
Audio Device(s) | Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D |
Power Supply | Seasonic 620W M12 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Proteus Core |
Keyboard | G.Skill KM780R |
Software | Arch Linux + Win10 |
On top of that, HardOCP seems to have found a weakness in Vega already: MSAA or SSAA performance. I'm taking that with a pinch of salt for now, because they only have 3 games that prove that (and none that proves otherwise), while TPU doesn't which test uses which level of AA. But I'm definitely keeping an eye out for more reviews.AMD stagnated since they gave up actually developing something new, while Nvidia keeps pushing forward.
Imagine a shrunk Fiji bumped about 300 MHz, then it should become obvious how little Vega really improves.