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Strong, inappropriate wording there, when I mentioned their site on the article. The absence of source link was no more than a forgetful moment. And you will likely be happy to know that I had already included the source before I even set eyes on your comment. Maybe less rocks on hand would have been nice.

Thank you, anyway. I'm sure that your words weren't meant to say what they mean.

unrelated to the article, but seeing the original post I have a hard time imagining how it could have been brought up any more friendly....
 
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Phones are on 4 for power saving, 4 for performance, and iPhones are still extremely competitive with their dual core designs.

Phones really don't need a bazillion cores, it generally creates more problems than it helps.


THANK YOU. People think MOR CORZ, BETTTA!!! AMD's been trying to sell you more cores for how long now? What is the fastest gaming processor RIGHT NOW? That's right, the 7700K. Even games that use multiple cores do better with the 7700K. The Apple A8 is faster than any of the Qualcomm, Exynos, and Kirin processor with 8 cores.

The IPC and raw clocks is what matters and so far Intel still has that advantage.

However, competition is good and I hope AMD can get something out that is faster than Intel.
 
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THANK YOU. People think MOR CORZ, BETTTA!!! AMD's been trying to sell you more cores for how long now? What is the fastest gaming processor RIGHT NOW? That's right, the 7700K. Even games that use multiple cores do better with the 7700K. The Apple A8 is faster than any of the Qualcomm, Exynos, and Kirin processor with 8 cores.

You have no idea what you are talking about: this is not a CPU aimed at gamers!

edit: and you should know what segment it's aimed at, since you are using a hexacore Xeon
 
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6 core is still considered gaming cpu by the most.

A common issue with people at PC enthusiast forums is that their whole PC experience revolve around gaming and gaming only.
 
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THANK YOU. People think MOR CORZ, BETTTA!!! AMD's been trying to sell you more cores for how long now? What is the fastest gaming processor RIGHT NOW? That's right, the 7700K. Even games that use multiple cores do better with the 7700K. The Apple A8 is faster than any of the Qualcomm, Exynos, and Kirin processor with 8 cores.

The IPC and raw clocks is what matters and so far Intel still has that advantage.

However, competition is good and I hope AMD can get something out that is faster than Intel.
can an iphone play crisis, no

And for the likes of me gaming at 4k that statement is total shit(go read up) , the 7700k is without doubt the best pure gaming cpu IF your at 1080p and by and large only play dx11 era games , welcome to the future yo,
the futures full of cores and im sorry mate, but theres feck all you dual and quad core loving crazy people can do about it, well you could get into retro gaming from here on in.

so an intel and apple fanboy , wow who knew they existed.

oh and amd know about raw clocks , my old cpu can still game at 5ghz (im sure ryzen(2,3) will get there)
and they certaintly have an eye on that IPC crown to put in the cupboard with the pawned on efficiency cup and the innovation cup as well as the price performance cup
 
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I don't think even the mainstream media does that nowadays.
If they sited their sources they'd be laughed off the air.
 
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If they sited their sources they'd be laughed off the air.

Journalism 101 of nowadays.

Catch / create gossips.

Cite them as "anonymous sources" or "our sources"

Create articles outta ass.

Make it sound like doom and gloom.

New truth is born.
 
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I also don't see what was inappropriate with what I said
You seemed to assume it was an intentional omission rather than human error. Even now, you presume to explain, pointedly, the importance of proper attribution to someone who has already explained they always intended to source and just forgot. Basically, you were inappropriately harsh.

Sometimes, people are being callous, but sometimes they'really just being human.
 
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Wat? None of us is a human. We are all bots.
Go change your batteries your spell checker missed an H in What. :D:kookoo:

Great story still.
 
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6 core is still considered gaming cpu by the most.

A common issue with people at PC enthusiast forums is that their whole PC experience revolve around gaming and gaming only.

It tends to revolve around whatever their favorite brand is better at. ;)
 
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Strong, inappropriate wording there, when I mentioned their site on the article. The absence of source link was no more than a forgetful moment. And you will likely be happy to know that I had already included the source before I even set eyes on your comment. Maybe less rocks on hand would have been nice.

Thank you, anyway. I'm sure that your words weren't meant to say what they mean.
maybe try not to save face when you plagiarize and just say yea i already fixed it thanks.....you look worse when you try to defend a stupid error with posturing.

inappropriate wording....are you a child? Grow up.
 
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THANK YOU. People think MOR CORZ, BETTTA!!! AMD's been trying to sell you more cores for how long now? What is the fastest gaming processor RIGHT NOW? That's right, the 7700K. Even games that use multiple cores do better with the 7700K. The Apple A8 is faster than any of the Qualcomm, Exynos, and Kirin processor with 8 cores.

The IPC and raw clocks is what matters and so far Intel still has that advantage.

However, competition is good and I hope AMD can get something out that is faster than Intel.

Go home kid, you are discussing wrong things at wrong place. This CPU isn't for gaming, this is aimed at people who use computers to earn money.

EDIT: Its sad that it came from someone using a Xeon.
 
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I'd be much more interested in seeing the amount of memory channels / quad channel on that platform than worries about that L3 cache.
 
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Strong, inappropriate wording there, when I mentioned their site on the article. The absence of source link was no more than a forgetful moment. And you will likely be happy to know that I had already included the source before I even set eyes on your comment. Maybe less rocks on hand would have been nice.

Thank you, anyway. I'm sure that your words weren't meant to say what they mean.
I think you may have taken that far more harshly than he intended. I read that as a simple suggestion, not harsh criticism.
 
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THANK YOU. People think MOR CORZ, BETTTA!!! AMD's been trying to sell you more cores for how long now? What is the fastest gaming processor RIGHT NOW? That's right, the 7700K. Even games that use multiple cores do better with the 7700K. The Apple A8 is faster than any of the Qualcomm, Exynos, and Kirin processor with 8 cores.

The IPC and raw clocks is what matters and so far Intel still has that advantage.

However, competition is good and I hope AMD can get something out that is faster than Intel.

What matters is end user requirements.

The i7700k would be a waste of my money for my use case ( gaming + abusing hardware anyway I can) . So my upgrade path at the moment is Intel or Amd 8 cores +. I'm seriously tempted to get the 16 core 32 thread hedt part if it turns out to be real and no more than twice the price of 1800x.

We're also hitting a kinda hard limit of what's possible with Silicon in terms of transistor size, we might get 7nm but I'm not holding my breath, we're at that point where not only is it hard to keep transistors in an off state because the electrons can jump the gap between the anode and cathode the wires( in chip) are so small that extra volts could just straight up burn them out.

So with that in mind more cores is going to be all we're likely to get now rather than much more power.

That i7700k could potentially really start to lag behind if hardware industry is being forced to move away from IPC and clock speeds. :) Have to admit though I'm no industry analyst but certainly seems we're heading into the many cores era.



Yup every home PC user needs 12 cores

More cores equals more gigahertz, haven't you been on ebay?

The 1800x will be sold as a 32 ghz cpu ( possibly 64 if they count hyper threading lol)
 

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You have also forgotten a link here: https://www.techpowerup.com/231696/amds-elusive-polaris-12-makes-an-appearance-on-compubench and you ignored my hint to check if Polaris was LPP or LPE: https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...igher-clocks-lower-power.231692/#post-3623708 (and you included the link to wccftech named BenchLife).

Please, take your time when writing news and always try to use multiple sources.


Thank you for bringing those up =) Fixed.

Some posts can't be used with multiple sources, when there is a single original source (either by leak or exclusive report). Others can. I'm not saying I always do one thing or the other, 100% correctly, but, there are always examples for one side, like yours, or mine.

There are also times when one can't answer, by forgetfulness or lack of time. Regarding your LPP and LPE hint, I did search, and found multiple reports claiming that the original Polaris was using LPP. Also, multiple reports that it was to use LPE. But all recent reports regarding the Polaris refresh mentioned how it was to use an LPP process. So, I chose to run with it.

unrelated to the article, but seeing the original post I have a hard time imagining how it could have been brought up any more friendly....

I think you may have taken that far more harshly than he intended. I read that as a simple suggestion, not harsh criticism.

Borrow was originally "Steal".

maybe try not to save face when you plagiarize and just say yea i already fixed it thanks.....you look worse when you try to defend a stupid error with posturing.

inappropriate wording....are you a child? Grow up.

Sure =) Whatever you say, bro.



Edit: merged double posts.
 
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Phones are on 4 for power saving, 4 for performance, and iPhones are still extremely competitive with their dual core designs.

Phones really don't need a bazillion cores, it generally creates more problems than it helps.

MediaTek X25 and X20 already on 10 cores.
 
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Hm, I vaguely recall AMD"s marketting tactics from more than a decade ago.

"Real man uses real core."
 

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THANK YOU. People think MOR CORZ, BETTTA!!! AMD's been trying to sell you more cores for how long now? What is the fastest gaming processor RIGHT NOW? That's right, the 7700K. Even games that use multiple cores do better with the 7700K. The Apple A8 is faster than any of the Qualcomm, Exynos, and Kirin processor with 8 cores.

The IPC and raw clocks is what matters and so far Intel still has that advantage.

However, competition is good and I hope AMD can get something out that is faster than Intel.

What is it that hurts you when someone want more than 4 cores ? I just dont get it.



Hm, I vaguely recall AMD"s marketting tactics from more than a decade ago.

"Real man uses real core."

I also still recall intel saying "consumer DO NOT need more than 4GB ram, 32bit systems are here to stay...". That was when AMD started pushing for 64bit instructions ( right now it is in every single intel x64 CPU btw).
 
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32bit systems are still at large even now, especially in web hosting (server environment).

So, yeah, it's here to stay. I reckon it will take extra 20 years for 32bit to be fully phased out.

4gb system ram still works now.
 

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32bit systems are still at large even now, especially in web hosting (server environment).

So, yeah, it's here to stay. I reckon it will take extra 20 years for 32bit to be fully phased out.

4gb system ram still works now.

Software side yes (leftover, backward compatibility or for very limited systems). but the 4gb ram and 32bit cpu I highly doubt that this is even usable for anyone these days.
 
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