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AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D and 5000GT Chips Start Selling in Europe

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The AMD Socket AM4 platform is still alive and kicking, with AMD releasing new processor models in its 7th year. Many of these chips started selling online in Europe. The Ryzen 7 5700X3D is a slightly lower clocked version of the 5800X3D, which for many of those still on AM4 is the final upgrade to their platform. The 5800X3D may be based on the older "Zen 3" microarchitecture, but thanks to its 3D Vertical Cache technology, offers gaming performance comparable to the Core i9-12900K "Alder Lake," making even 7-year old AM4 gaming desktops contemporary. To cash in on this exact market, AMD released a more cost-effective option, the Ryzen 7 5700X3D.

The 5700X3D is an 8-core/16-thread Socket AM4 processor that features 96 MB of L3 cache thanks to the 3D V-cache technology, just like the 5800X3D, but comes with a maximum boost frequency of 4.10 GHz, compared to the 4.50 GHz of the 5800X3D. Store listings do not mention its TDP or base frequency. The 5700X3D is being listed at 271€ including taxes, or about 15-20% cheaper than the 5800X3D. A word of caution when choosing the 5700X3D would be its close to non-existent overclocking headroom, so this probably isn't a chip that you can manually overclock to performance levels of a 5800X3D while saving some 40€ on the side.



AMD also updated the lower end of its Socket AM4 product stack with the introduction of the new Ryzen 5 5600GT and Ryzen 5 5500GT. The two are spruced up (faster) versions of the current 5600G and 5500 APUs, and are based on the 7 nm "Cezanne" monolithic silicon. Both feature 6-core/12-thread CPUs based on the "Zen 3" microarchitecture, with 512 KB of L2 cache per core, and a 16 MB shared L3 cache. Both are further configured with a Radeon Vega iGPU with 7 CU (448 stream processors). The 5600GT features a maximum CPU boost frequency of 4.60 GHz, compared to the 4.40 GHz of the older 5600G. The 5500GT comes with the same 4.40 GHz maximum CPU boost as the 5600G, but with a lower CPU base frequency of 3.60 GHz, compared to the 3.90 GHz of the 5600G. The 5500GT is being listed at an attractive 138€, and the 5600GT at 186€.

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I yet didn't understand how motherboard prices for AMD can be so high, at least in Europe and especially for AM5, and that's a pity, because AMD Cpu seem amazing.
 
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I yet didn't understand how motherboard prices for AMD can be so high, at least in Europe and especially for AM5, and that's a pity, because AMD Cpu seem amazing.
I think it's because the manufacturers are hiding the AMD popularity wave. You want an AMD CPU? Pay the MoBo premium. People will still get them because of the good value of the whole package.
 
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You can/might get higher memory clocks with these chips.
 
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Too bad 5000GT still have Vega iGPUs. Pass for that reason.
Unless Rembrandt has previously hidden DDR4 Support, there is no way they could get something decent with RDNA on the AM4 platform using existing chips.
Van Gogh (Zen2 4C/8T with RDNA2) would not be well received either, due to the old CPU core and low core count.

So what would you suggest AMD should do? A new APU chip for AM4 with a DDR4 memory controller is unlikely to bring in a justifiable ROI for AMD.
It's also questionable how much better RDNA2/3 would actually be, being limited by the much lower DDR4 bandwidth compared to DDR5.
 
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Let's see how much the 5700X3D will sell for here in the UK. Considering that the 5800X3D is still around 400 quid, I don't have high hopes. If it's reasonably cheap, I might get one for my brother to replace his 5500.
 
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Let's see how much the 5700X3D will sell for here in the UK. Considering that the 5800X3D is still around 400 quid, I don't have high hopes. If it's reasonably cheap, I might get one for my brother to replace his 5500.
Whaaat? It's been under 300 pounds for almost a year.

 
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Unless Rembrandt has previously hidden DDR4 Support, there is no way they could get something decent with RDNA on the AM4 platform using existing chips.
Van Gogh (Zen2 4C/8T with RDNA2) would not be well received either, due to the old CPU core and low core count.

So what would you suggest AMD should do? A new APU chip for AM4 with a DDR4 memory controller is unlikely to bring in a justifiable ROI for AMD.
It's also questionable how much better RDNA2/3 would actually be, being limited by the much lower DDR4 bandwidth compared to DDR5.
And yet Ryzen 8k is going to have RDNA3+ according to current information we have.
Also Vegas are on the chopping block, so good luck with soon to be, if not already e-waste of APUs:

I guess it's better to recycle them like that than dump into the landfill though.
 
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I yet didn't understand how motherboard prices for AMD can be so high, at least in Europe and especially for AM5, and that's a pity, because AMD Cpu seem amazing.
That why i build new pc on AM4.
5700X-175€ vs 7700X-365€
motherboard am4-145€ vs am5-260€
RAM ddr4-39€ vs ddr5-77€
AM4 359€ vs AM5 702€
Choice for gaming is clear! 2K is slower 8%, 4K 1% slover. For 220€ difference you can picka lot faster gpu (7600vs 7700xt ) ~35% more powerfull
 
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B650 boards start ar roughly 120 GBP. You don't need an overly expensive X670E board for budget gaming.

Other than that, I agree.
 
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Let's see how much the 5700X3D will sell for here in the UK. Considering that the 5800X3D is still around 400 quid, I don't have high hopes. If it's reasonably cheap, I might get one for my brother to replace his 5500.
it hasn't been that kind of price for probably 12+ months, £265 new on amazon atm..

I might be tempted with a 5700x3d for £200 any more and it's not worth it compared to the 5800x3d
 
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it hasn't been that kind of price for probably 12+ months, £265 new on amazon atm..

I might be tempted with a 5700x3d for £200 any more and it's not worth it compared to the 5800x3d
I know now. I checked Scan because I didn't think the difference would be so massive.
 
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And yet Ryzen 8k is going to have RDNA3+ according to current information we have.
Also Vegas are on the chopping block, so good luck with soon to be, if not already e-waste of APUs:

I guess it's better to recycle them like that than dump into the landfill though.
RDNA 3(+) based APUs are exclusively on DDR5/LPDDR5X and not on DDR4, so what exactly do you want to say?
Even with DDR5 I'm pretty sure that memory speed is holding back performance by a significant margin.
By how much is something we will probably see pretty soon, especially in case the Phoenix IMC allows higher DDR5 clocks, similar to what Renoir/Cezanne could do with DDR4.
 
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so what exactly do you want to say?
Already said it: this is an e-waste or soon to be such. Sorry to hear that apparently offends you so much, but I'm not taking that back.
 
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Let's see how much the 5700X3D will sell for here in the UK. Considering that the 5800X3D is still around 400 quid, I don't have high hopes. If it's reasonably cheap, I might get one for my brother to replace his 5500.
5800x3d cost 300 quid for a very long time i have no idea where did you find 400 quid.

Btw at Christmas period i seen 278 for 5800x3d i dont remember overclocker or scan.
 
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Ok, so now we have the R5-5600X3D, R7-5700X3D and R7-5800X3D.

What's next, the R9-5950X3D? :roll:
 
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B650 boards start ar roughly 120 GBP. You don't need an overly expensive X670E board for budget gaming.

Other than that, I agree.
Show me ATX with S/PDIF for that price! Cheapest is ashrock 235€
 
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5800x3d cost 300 quid for a very long time i have no idea where did you find 400 quid.

Btw at Christmas period i seen 278 for 5800x3d i dont remember overclocker or scan.
Yeah, I didn't even pay $300CAD for mine. To pay £400 for it could only be described as daft.

Probably not. Simply because the 5600x3d and 5700x3d are chips that couldn’t make the grade to be a 5800x3d. Had there been a 5950x3d to begin with, we might have seen a 5900x3d with any chips that didn’t make it as a 5950x3d.
I wasn't being serious, I was taking it to a humourous level of absurdity, kinda like what Monty Python does. ;)

When AMD released the R9-7900X3D and R9-7950X3D, I ripped them a new one because the existence of those two CPUs struck me as both greedy and cynical.
 
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I wasn't being serious, I was taking it to a humourous level of absurdity, kinda like what Monty Python does. ;)

When AMD released the R9-7900X3D and R9-7950X3D, I ripped them a new one because the existence of those two CPUs struck me as both greedy and cynical.
I was pretty sure that's what you were doing, but AMD is getting a lot of love in the forums for releasing these new chips as some great act of benevolence. They're simply selling as much of their product as possible. Nothing wrong with that at all, but it's just business.

The biggest issue I had with the release of the 7950x3d and 7900x3d was that they held back the 7800x3d by a month to capitalize on those that couldn't wait to have the newest and sell as many of those two chips that they may not have if they hadn't staggered the release. I think they could have had a real winner with the 7950x3d had they done the 3d v-cache on both CCDs.
 
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Already said it: this is an e-waste or soon to be such. Sorry to hear that apparently offends you so much, but I'm not taking that back.
That's just your opinion and not factual. While the Vega gpu may not get many more driver updates, that really would only affect new games that will be released; and you are not going to be playing those on an iGPU anyway.

I still have several machines in our student CAD lab with FirePro v3900's running on windows 10/11. They haven't seen a driver update since late 2015, but that does not make them broken or unusable. It will be the same with these. Until the driver model windows uses changes, these will still be functional gpu's for many years to come. Play latest AAA games, no. Let Linda in accounting send an email, view her Excel sheets, and play solitaire when on a conference call, YES!
 
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