AMD Ryzen Discussion Thread.

[toilet pepper]

Sweet

What board

Gigabyte Aorus X370 with an r5 1600

 

[Cvrk]

Wish i had more time. The motherboard comes today... soon my rig will be completed. I have to choose the ram,it's a matter of days.
I wish it won't happen #truly but those rgb rams always had problems. I love to get a kit, after reading so much about, everyone says they will fail. Here is just a example

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/68j9bj/what_was_your_experience_using_gskill_tridentz/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6dfbac/g_skill_rgb_ram_good_for_ryzen/

In 2 months time, you will report back and tell us all about it. In the meantime i am looking for a romanian shop that will sell me these https://gskill.com/en/product/f4-3200c14d-16gtzko
Found the red one in stock... but i want the orange
Keep us updated on your rig @toilet pepper Best of luck to you

 

[toilet pepper]

Wish i had more time. The motherboard comes today... soon my rig will be completed. I have to choose the ram,it's a matter of days.
I wish it won't happen #truly but those rgb rams always had problems. I love to get a kit, after reading so much about, everyone says they will fail. Here is just a example

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/68j9bj/what_was_your_experience_using_gskill_tridentz/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6dfbac/g_skill_rgb_ram_good_for_ryzen/

In 2 months time, you will report back and tell us all about it. In the meantime i am looking for a romanian shop that will sell me these https://gskill.com/en/product/f4-3200c14d-16gtzko
Found the red one in stock... but i want the orange
Keep us updated on your rig @toilet pepper Best of luck to you

I've had it for several months. I also watched that video before buying the RAM kits. I didint experience those problems. I tried to recreate his problem and managed to fix it myself. Just dont use the gskill rgb software while using programs that use SMBUS like cpuz and hwinfo64.

 

[Recca29]

First time using a NVME SSD. any thing i need to know before installing windows 10.
Waiting for the case to arrive to start the build.

 

[cadaveca]

First time using a NVME SSD. any thing i need to know before installing windows 10.
Waiting for the case to arrive to start the build.

Nope, but if your board has two M.2 ports, one of them is likely slower than the other, so make sure you use the right slot.

 

[Recca29]

Nope, but if your board has two M.2 ports, one of them is likely slower than the other, so make sure you use the right slot.

Board is Asus ROG STRIX B350-F GAMING, and It has only 1 M2 slot.
I am little concerned with the drivers for Samsung 960 EVO, so downloaded the latest windows 10 version.

 

[phanbuey]

i had no issues with my 960 and the asus prime x370 which i think is basically the same as the strix b350 bios wise.

 

[Cvrk]

@toilet pepper as i understand ,if you don't install the G.Skill software,the ram will show rainbow colors ,witch is the default.

Just dont use the gskill rgb software while using programs that use SMBUS like cpuz and hwinfo64.

By "don't use the software" you mean make sure the G.Skill software is closed and not running in the background at the same time with the cpuz etc ? The point of having rgb ram is to set the color you like, either by using the ram software or (i don't know if this is possible ) using the motherboard ,in my case MSI Mystic Light.

To eliminate all problems, just don't install ever the G.Skill software, and you should be solid forever ?

No one can confirm that the Mystic Light can in fact control the ram rgb, but even in the worst case leaving it to rainbow default is not so bad. At least until G.Skill will fix stuff.

I tried to recreate his problem and managed to fix it myself.

How exactly did you create those problems ? What was your solution ?

Please reply with details. This is a very interesting topic for me.

P.S. : Does the software controlling the rgb must run all the time ,so you can change the color ? Preferably ,making sure it boots at startup ?

 

[_JP_]

3200: NOPE.avi
2933: Uuuunnnhhgg...nope
2400 (please?): Yeah but with 3200's timings, 2T, 1,2v
2133: Yeah, no sweat.



So, back to 2133MHz (because I felt something was off @2400...although by this time it could just be paranoia on my end ).
Guess it pays to just buy a single, single rank 3200MHz DIMM, even though the word on the street is that DR@2933 renders better performance. And even then, odds are only in favor if it's with Samsung chips.
I'll wait for a few more UEFI updates before trying this again...

 

[Norton]

2400 (please?): Yeah but with 3200's timings, 2T, 1,2v

You likely need to go to 1.35-1.38v to get the higher speeds- 1.2v won't get you there

I set my Asrock boards to load the XMP profile but changed the speed down before rebooting- went with 2666 first and went up from there.

 

[EarthDog]

Hes running 2400mhz 1.2v....using looser 3200mhz timings.

 

[toilet pepper]

@toilet pepper as i understand ,if you don't install the G.Skill software,the ram will show rainbow colors ,witch is the default.

- Yes it would just show rainbow colors. It worked like that as soon as I plugged it in and turned it on the first time.

By "don't use the software" you mean make sure the G.Skill software is closed and not running in the background at the same time with the cpuz etc ? The point of having rgb ram is to set the color you like, either by using the ram software or (i don't know if this is possible ) using the motherboard ,in my case MSI Mystic Light.

- Correct don't use the Gskill software while/when/if you open CPU-z, HWINFO64 and the likes of it. I used the Gskill software to change the color and light patterns then prevented the software from starting at bootup. It saved the settings even if I restart or do a cold boot.

To eliminate all problems, just don't install ever the G.Skill software, and you should be solid forever ?

- Pretty much a solid YES!

No one can confirm that the Mystic Light can in fact control the ram rgb, but even in the worst case leaving it to rainbow default is not so bad. At least until G.Skill will fix stuff.

- AFAIK Gskill is ASUS Aura compatible. Gigabyte RGB Fusion can control the Corsair Vengeance RGB. I'm not sure with MSi Mystic Light

How exactly did you create those problems ? What was your solution ?

- Installed Gskill software then changed settings on it. Then I opened CPU-z then restarted the PC and BOOM several of the LEDS on the RAM wont turn on anymore. So I ran the Gskill software again turned the LEDS on and off then reset the BIOS then it is back to working again.

Please reply with details. This is a very interesting topic for me.

P.S. : Does the software controlling the rgb must run all the time ,so you can change the color ? Preferably ,making sure it boots at startup ?

Already answered, I think? Here's some screenies

 

[_JP_]

You likely need to go to 1.35-1.38v to get the higher speeds- 1.2v won't get you there

I set my Asrock boards to load the XMP profile but changed the speed down before rebooting- went with 2666 first and went up from there.

I did set 1.35v for 3200 and 2933, didn't try 1.38v though. Didn't use the "memory try-it" because I was afraid of out of control voltages...autoOC features always (in my experience) go bonkers on that regard...A-XMP didn't work.

Hes running 2400mhz 1.2v....using looser 3200mhz timings.

Yeah, I'm not happy with that, in fact disappointed, but it did load windows and games. I'm going to read more about these M-dies to see what I can muster off them. My guess is I'm also missing something on the CPU-side of things.

 

[Cvrk]

W8 a second! Hey , HOO! Stop the horses @toilet pepper
Manufacturer Hynix ?! They should be samsung b-Die

But Thaiphoon Burner costs money


Yeah looking at the https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/62vp2g/clearing_up_any_samsung_bdie_confusion_eg_on/ sheet, you got the Cl16 ram...witch they are Hynix
My bad.

 

[toilet pepper]

W8 a second! Hey , HOO! Stop the horses @toilet pepper
Manufacturer Hynix ?! They should be samsung b-Die

But Thaiphoon Burner costs money


Yeah looking at the https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/62vp2g/clearing_up_any_samsung_bdie_confusion_eg_on/ sheet, you got the Cl16 ram...witch they are Hynix
My bad.

I forgot where I got the Thaiphoon Burner for free but it is locked out of some features.

To sum it all up gskill works and it is pretty. Differnce from 2933 or 3200 aint that big anyways. Nothing that I could feel or notice.

 

[psyko12]

W8 a second! Hey , HOO! Stop the horses @toilet pepper
Manufacturer Hynix ?! They should be samsung b-Die

But Thaiphoon Burner costs money


Yeah looking at the https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/62vp2g/clearing_up_any_samsung_bdie_confusion_eg_on/ sheet, you got the Cl16 ram...witch they are Hynix
My bad.

I forgot where I got the Thaiphoon Burner for free but it is locked out of some features.

To sum it all up gskill works and it is pretty. Differnce from 2933 or 3200 aint that big anyways. Nothing that I could feel or notice.

You can actually get the freeware version on the official site....

 

[Norton]

You can actually get the freeware version on the official site....

Thanks for that link

Here's my ram (dual sided samsung E chips):

@_JP_ same ram as yours but built with totally different chips!
*these are an older revision though...

 

[Durvelle27]

Thanks for that link

Here's my ram (dual sided samsung E chips):

@_JP_ same ram as yours but built with totally different chips!
*these are an older revision though...

Where did you get that spec list

 

[Norton]

Where did you get that spec list

Thaiphoon burner- see the link in @psyko12 's post (above mine)

 

[Durvelle27]

Thaiphoon burner- see the link in @psyko12 's post (above mine)

Dang I need to try that

 

[psyko12]

Here are my non-RGB Trident Z's



And just based from my experience. I find that instability can be seen thru thaiphoon as well if you have oc'd your ram and or ran it with it's xmp profile but unstable the
CRC check down at the status bar would say "Error" instead of OK. This is just based on what I encountered tho. But after a bit of tweaking and if you get the mix right for the rams the CRC check would read OK as well.
This also can detect if the xmp and spd profile get/got corrupted.

 

[_JP_]

@_JP_ same ram as yours but built with totally different chips!
*these are an older revision though...

Yeah, it seems that for some of G.Skill's Trident Z CL16 P/Ns, DIMMs that were at some point Samsung E-Die have started to surface as Hynix A/M-die.
Hynix A-die seems to hold itself better than M, but I've seen Ms easily reach 3200 stable on ASRocks....I believe @HTC is one of the privileged here
Team Elite seems to be the most consistent with B-dies, but any 3200MHz DIMM rated CL14 should be B-die.
In Ryzen terms, this results in either easy 2933/3066/3200 settings or manual tweaking to reach, depending on manufacturer.
It's more than apparent that each UEFI has their "original" interpretation of AMD's AGESA releases and grabbing X.M.P.s used to be easier

>Edited for better calarity

 

[HTC]

Can anyone suggest a program to display RAM timings for Ubuntu? I'm having trouble locating one that displays the necessary info: my knowledge of Linux is still very limited!

 

[_JP_]

Can anyone suggest a program to display RAM timings for Ubuntu? I'm having trouble locating one that displays the necessary info: my knowledge of Linux is still very limited!

Try

sudo dmidecode -t memory

 

[HTC]

Try

sudo dmidecode -t memory

Got this:

# dmidecode 3.0
Getting SMBIOS data from sysfs.
SMBIOS 3.0.0 present.

Handle 0x000E, DMI type 16, 23 bytes
Physical Memory Array
    Location: System Board Or Motherboard
    Use: System Memory
    Error Correction Type: None
    Maximum Capacity: 64 GB
    Error Information Handle: 0x000D
    Number Of Devices: 4

Handle 0x0015, DMI type 17, 40 bytes
Memory Device
    Array Handle: 0x000E
    Error Information Handle: 0x0014
    Total Width: Unknown
    Data Width: Unknown
    Size: No Module Installed
    Form Factor: Unknown
    Set: None
    Locator: DIMM 0
    Bank Locator: CHANNEL A
    Type: Unknown
    Type Detail: Unknown
    Speed: Unknown
    Manufacturer: Unknown
    Serial Number: Unknown
    Asset Tag: Not Specified
    Part Number: Unknown
    Rank: Unknown
    Configured Clock Speed: Unknown
    Minimum Voltage: Unknown
    Maximum Voltage: Unknown
    Configured Voltage: Unknown

Handle 0x0017, DMI type 17, 40 bytes
Memory Device
    Array Handle: 0x000E
    Error Information Handle: 0x0016
    Total Width: 64 bits
    Data Width: 64 bits
    Size: 8192 MB
    Form Factor: DIMM
    Set: None
    Locator: DIMM 1
    Bank Locator: CHANNEL A
    Type: DDR4
    Type Detail: Synchronous Unbuffered (Unregistered)
    Speed: 3200 MHz
    Manufacturer: Unknown
    Serial Number: 00000000
    Asset Tag: Not Specified
    Part Number: F4-3200C16-8GTZB
    Rank: 1
    Configured Clock Speed: 1600 MHz
    Minimum Voltage: 1.2 V
    Maximum Voltage: 1.2 V
    Configured Voltage: 1.2 V

Handle 0x001A, DMI type 17, 40 bytes
Memory Device
    Array Handle: 0x000E
    Error Information Handle: 0x0019
    Total Width: Unknown
    Data Width: Unknown
    Size: No Module Installed
    Form Factor: Unknown
    Set: None
    Locator: DIMM 0
    Bank Locator: CHANNEL B
    Type: Unknown
    Type Detail: Unknown
    Speed: Unknown
    Manufacturer: Unknown
    Serial Number: Unknown
    Asset Tag: Not Specified
    Part Number: Unknown
    Rank: Unknown
    Configured Clock Speed: Unknown
    Minimum Voltage: Unknown
    Maximum Voltage: Unknown
    Configured Voltage: Unknown

Handle 0x001C, DMI type 17, 40 bytes
Memory Device
    Array Handle: 0x000E
    Error Information Handle: 0x001B
    Total Width: 64 bits
    Data Width: 64 bits
    Size: 8192 MB
    Form Factor: DIMM
    Set: None
    Locator: DIMM 1
    Bank Locator: CHANNEL B
    Type: DDR4
    Type Detail: Synchronous Unbuffered (Unregistered)
    Speed: 3200 MHz
    Manufacturer: Unknown
    Serial Number: 00000000
    Asset Tag: Not Specified
    Part Number: F4-3200C16-8GTZB
    Rank: 1
    Configured Clock Speed: 1600 MHz
    Minimum Voltage: 1.2 V
    Maximum Voltage: 1.2 V
    Configured Voltage: 1.2 V

Shame Thyphoon Burner doesn't work in Linux (@ least i don't know how to make it work).