AMD to release new FX processor (with AIO)

[Shambles1980]

ok.. sorry i didnt know you knew what the power requirements of this new chip was going to be so can guarantee it will oc just fine on those boards..

perhaps you could let us know what they will be..

 

[Durvelle27]

Just to throw this it there I OC'd a 8350 just fine on a mobo I got for $50.

Not recommended unless you know what you're doing.

 

[Ravenas]

ok.. sorry i didnt know you knew what the power requirements of this new chip was going to be so can guarantee it will oc just fine on those boards..

perhaps you could let us know what they will be..

Look at my system specs. The 8350 overclocks just fine.

 

[Shambles1980]

my some what conveluted point is.
IF it needs an aio to run at stock its going to be rediculously power hungry and any further oc will undoubtedly need a more robust vrm setup.
if it dosent need the aio as stock. then why gimick it up.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

ok.. sorry i didnt know you knew what the power requirements of this new chip was going to be so can guarantee it will oc just fine on those boards..

perhaps you could let us know what they will be..

If the power requirements for the new chip are higher then the FX9xxx chips http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113347 I will be very surprised, and even then those 990FX boards can handle the FX9xxx fine. I expect about the same as the FX8350.

 

[GhostRyder]

my some what conveluted point is.
IF it needs an aio to run at stock its going to be rediculously power hungry and any further oc will undoubtedly need a more robust vrm setup.
if it dosent need the aio as stock. then why gimick it up.

Or if you look back it could just be a special bundle like the the FX 8150 LC edition... AMD has been including things like this just for fun bundle deals in the past so why would it be any different now? Just because it comes with an Asetek cooler does not mean it needs it, they just wanted to do a promotional thing where you can get an bundle with a LC cooler instead of a junky little box fan... Now it could very well be another 220Watt chip, but that has yet to be seen...

 

[buildzoid]

That would basically blow up the VRMs in any available FM2+ motherboard

Here's a review on a budget A88X board I did. You should check the VRM section of it.

 

[buildzoid]

my some what conveluted point is.
IF it needs an aio to run at stock its going to be rediculously power hungry and any further oc will undoubtedly need a more robust vrm setup.
if it dosent need the aio as stock. then why gimick it up.

Why don't you go complain about the X79 VRMs. A 3930K at 5Ghz will pull much much more power than an FX 8350 at 5Ghz.

 

[Shambles1980]

Here's a review on a budget A88X board I did. You should check the VRM section of it.

that board can support 100w.. its not that good..

 

[_JP_]

Or if you look back it could just be a special bundle like the the FX 8150 LC edition... AMD has been including things like this just for fun bundle deals in the past so why would it be any different now? Just because it comes with an Asetek cooler does not mean it needs it, they just wanted to do a promotional thing where you can get an bundle with a LC cooler instead of a junky little box fan... Now it could very well be another 220Watt chip, but that has yet to be seen...

This.
AMD FX 8300 (95W) w/AIO cooler!! Heck yeah!

that board can supply 100w.. its not that good..

APUs aren't rated above 100W.

 

[Xzibit]

HardwareCanucks - AMD to Launch "New" FX-9590 CPU

 

[Shambles1980]

this new cpu isnt apu.. i hope its going to be 95w and be 4.5 stock with a aio just for fun dont really need it but here you go..

but it seems like either its a really hot running lets use 220+ w of power and you will need aio just to keep it under 60c at stock.
or
its really not that good. its basically just a piledriver over clocked as far as we can manage it. but look over here ! AIO ! Yeah pay attention to this.. just ignore the cpu for now..

-edit-
ok above post answered my question and its just the same overclocked cpu that did need to be water cooled to run properly at stock. with a sedion 120 lcs thrown in. i guess if you dont shop around thats a cheap way to get that aio..

not to impressed to be honest.

 

[RCoon]

HardwareCanucks - AMD to Launch "New" FX-9590 CPU

Lel. Joke is on everybody it seems. Nice PR overhyping a rather lacklustre release.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

this new cpu isnt apu.. i hope its going to be 95w and be 4.5 stock with a aio just for fun dont really need it but here you go..

but it seems like either its a really hot running lets use 220+ w of power and you will need aio just to keep it under 60c at stock.
or
its really not that good. its basically just a piledriver over clocked as far as we can manage it. but look over here ! AIO ! Yeah pay attention to this.. just ignore the cpu for now..

I guess you also don't understand that the wattage number they say, 125w for FX8350 or 220w for FX9xxx is the TDP (Thermal Design Power: Maximum amount of heat generated by CPU, which the cooling is required to dissipate during normal operation), not the ACTUAL CPU power consumption. It is typically lower.

 

[Shambles1980]

run an 8120 on a board that can only do 100w and tell me it wont run at lower than stock speeds as default..

I guess you also don't understand that the wattage number they say, 125w for FX8350 or 220w for FX9xxx is the TDP (Thermal Design Power: Maximum amount of heat generated by CPU, which the cooling is required to dissipate during normal operation), not the ACTUAL CPU power consumption. It is typically lower.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

run an 8120 on a board that can only do 100w and tell me it wont run at lower than stock speeds as default..

Why would you even think about using a board that can do that if the actual power consumption of the chip is higher then what the boards power delivery can deliver? Sounds pretty dumb too me.

.......but oh wait.



And also power delivery is not all about how many phases there are. There could be a motherboard with say 12 phases just for CPU, where as another motherboard with 8 phases, but higher quality overall design that can delivery as much as a motherboard with more phases.

If you have a motherboard with say 4+1 phases and you try and use a CPU that really should need more, then jokes on you.

 

[GhostRyder]

Well looks like we all got our answer as to what is coming.

 

[Shambles1980]

so now you say a TDP of 220 will use less power than a cpu with a tdp of 125 using the same nm ? and so you can use it on a 100w board?
sounds pretty dumb to me

but of course your either just having a pissing contests or deliberately taking things out of context to suit your point because you were/are wrong.

its also funny how the tdp scales with power usage. and board mfrs state the thdp of the chip that can be used on the board..
i.e a 100w board will list a 8120 95w as useable, but an 8120 (standard 125w tdp) as not useable..

 

[MxPhenom 216]

so now you say a TDP of 220 will use less power than a cpu with a tdp of 125 using the same nm ?
sounds pretty dumb to me

No....jesus, completely opposite of what I was saying. Re-read what I said. I am sure other people here understand what I am trying to say.

 

[Shambles1980]

No....jesus, completely opposite of what I was saying. Re-read what I said. I am sure other people here understand what I am trying to say.

thats pretty strange you just said that tdp is tdp "which i know" you then went and stated that the actual power usage is less.. and pointed to a 125 tdp cpu using 95w. when i asked you to run a 125w tdp cpu on a 95w board you said that would be dumb..
which both contradicted your 1st point and reinstated what i initially said..

I wish you knew what irony was.

 

[Vario]

TDP is thermal design power, its the amount of heat the electronics is rated to give off.
Just because unit is in watts doesn't mean its a measure of input power requirement.

 

[Shambles1980]

TDP is thermal design power, its the amount of heat the electronics is rated to give off.
Just because unit is in watts doesn't mean its a measure of input power requirement.

i know that.. it is what tells me the minimum heat sink i need to use...

 

[MxPhenom 216]

thats pretty strange you just said that tdp is tdp "which i know" you then went and stated that the actual power usage is less.. and pointed to a 125 tdp cpu using 95w. when i asked you to run a 125w tdp cpu on a 95w board you said that would be dumb..
which both contradicted your 1st point and reinstated what i initially said..

I wish you knew what irony was.

Show me a single AM3/+ board that supports FX Bulldozer and Piledriver chips that only can supply the CPU with 100w. All the boards I showed earlier can supply easily more than that.

 

[suraswami]

FX 9xxx series power consumption

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-fx-9590-9370_7.html

 

[Shambles1980]

ok i see what your arguing now, and why you pointed out the tdp thing..
I should have said rated for 100w tdp cpu's

but my point is still the same.

you wont be running that cpu on a 4+1 whats a 12+2 board cost any way?