• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

An Epic Fury X Review : Quad Fury X vs Quad TITAN X

Joined
Jun 9, 2011
Messages
32 (0.01/day)
Location
South Korea


Sorry for such an arrogant title ;) I'm from a small forum in Korea and recently wrote a review on AMD Fury X - not only the article about Fury X itself alone but also about its crossfire configuration as well as the competitor's. I carefully guess this is the first 4-way crossfire/sli benchmark for either Fury X, TITAN X or 980 Ti. Hope you enjoy this thread :)

Note that the images below all contain Korean characters, that you may not understand and may bother you. I'm quite regretful of that, but I'm sure that the images themselves can tell most of the story.

Okay. This is my test rig configuration table.



...and this is what I covered during the test. 12 game titles plus two version of 3DMark (11 and Fire Strike) are used.



I'm going to skip the chapter showing detailed result for each game title due to # of images limit in this forum. Let's go directly to the performance analysis chapter instead. (The original publisher (http://iyd.kr/753) contains all detailed data for each game.)

I analyzed the whole data via two different ways - one is just summing up the whole framerates measured in each game title while the another one is take average of the performance numbers normalized by that of single TITAN X in each game title. I named the former "Accumulated Framerates" and the latter "Average Relative Performance (ARP)".

In addition to that, in taking ARP for all 12 games + 2 variants of 3DMark, there surely are some games not supporting (or at least the scale is very poor) multi GPU configuration. To avoid bias, I decided to offer both ARP analysis : ARP of -literally- all games and 3DMark, as well as the ARP without three multi-GPU-incapable titles.

Well, let's first put an eye on FHD (1920 x 1080) result. Here they are : AF, ARP, and ARP w/o multi-GPU incapable titles.





Seconly the QHD result.





Lastly the UHD result.





Below is multi-GPU scaling chart.



Okay. You've overseen the whole numbers at a glance. The point is that, whether Fury X shows poor performance in low resolution or not, the efficiency of crossfire is pretty good. To tell the truth, what's really good is not the "efficiency" but pure performance itself : Crossfired Fury X actualy beat out TITAN X SLI in most of test scenarios. To make it simple to understand, let's summarize the whole result in one table. Here it is.



See what I mean? :)

Well, my thread is finally over. Thanks for reading such long (and written in poor English) article.
 

Frick

Fishfaced Nincompoop
Joined
Feb 27, 2006
Messages
18,902 (2.88/day)
Location
Piteå
System Name Black MC in Tokyo
Processor Ryzen 5 5600
Motherboard Asrock B450M-HDV
Cooling Be Quiet! Pure Rock 2
Memory 2 x 16GB Kingston Fury 3400mhz
Video Card(s) XFX 6950XT Speedster MERC 319
Storage Kingston A400 240GB | WD Black SN750 2TB |WD Blue 1TB x 2 | Toshiba P300 2TB | Seagate Expansion 8TB
Display(s) Samsung U32J590U 4K + BenQ GL2450HT 1080p
Case Fractal Design Define R4
Audio Device(s) Line6 UX1 + some headphones, Nektar SE61 keyboard
Power Supply Corsair RM850x v3
Mouse Logitech G602
Keyboard Cherry MX Board 1.0 TKL Brown
VR HMD Acer Mixed Reality Headset
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores Rimworld 4K ready!
WHAT THE HELL'S WRONG WITH YOU MAN KIDS ARE READING THIS FORUM



It almost looks photoshopped. :laugh:
 

the54thvoid

Intoxicated Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Dec 14, 2009
Messages
12,252 (2.36/day)
Location
Glasgow - home of formal profanity
Processor Ryzen 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI MAG Mortar B650 (wifi)
Cooling be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4
Memory 32GB Kingston Fury
Video Card(s) Gainward RTX4070ti
Storage Seagate FireCuda 530 M.2 1TB / Samsumg 960 Pro M.2 512Gb
Display(s) LG 32" 165Hz 1440p GSYNC
Case Asus Prime AP201
Audio Device(s) On Board
Power Supply be quiet! Pure POwer M12 850w Gold (ATX3.0)
Software W10
@DGLee - did you genuinely have 4 cards or are you "theorizing"?
 
Joined
Apr 29, 2014
Messages
4,152 (1.16/day)
Location
Texas
System Name SnowFire / The Reinforcer
Processor i7 10700K 5.1ghz (24/7) / 2x Xeon E52650v2
Motherboard Asus Strix Z490 / Dell Dual Socket (R720)
Cooling RX 360mm + 140mm Custom Loop / Dell Stock
Memory Corsair RGB 16gb DDR4 3000 CL 16 / DDR3 128gb 16 x 8gb
Video Card(s) GTX Titan XP (2025mhz) / Asus GTX 950 (No Power Connector)
Storage Samsung 970 1tb NVME and 2tb HDD x4 RAID 5 / 300gb x8 RAID 5
Display(s) Acer XG270HU, Samsung G7 Odyssey (1440p 240hz)
Case Thermaltake Cube / Dell Poweredge R720 Rack Mount Case
Audio Device(s) Realtec ALC1150 (On board)
Power Supply Rosewill Lightning 1300Watt / Dell Stock 750 / Brick
Mouse Logitech G5
Keyboard Logitech G19S
Software Windows 11 Pro / Windows Server 2016
I had heard that cfx scaling was really good on these cards. This is a little better than expected, must be where the memory starts to show its power!
 

btarunr

Editor & Senior Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 9, 2007
Messages
46,048 (7.69/day)
Location
Hyderabad, India
System Name RBMK-1000
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix B450-E Gaming
Cooling DeepCool Gammax L240 V2
Memory 2x 8GB G.Skill Sniper X
Video Card(s) Palit GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER GameRock
Storage Western Digital Black NVMe 512GB
Display(s) BenQ 1440p 60 Hz 27-inch
Case Corsair Carbide 100R
Audio Device(s) ASUS SupremeFX S1220A
Power Supply Cooler Master MWE Gold 650W
Mouse ASUS ROG Strix Impact
Keyboard Gamdias Hermes E2
Software Windows 11 Pro
Surely I have. No, precisely I "had" those cards.



Quad-SLI is probably causing temperature-based throttling on the air-cooled NVIDIA cards. To keep sync, even the cooler cards' clocks are synced with the hotter ones'.
 

Mussels

Freshwater Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 6, 2004
Messages
58,413 (8.25/day)
Location
Oystralia
System Name Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s) Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s) Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s) Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores Nyooom.
this actually answers a question i posed in the HBM overclocking thread - would the extra 'wasted' HBM bandwidth be a benefit to crossfire - the answer appears to be a yes.
 

v12dock

Block Caption of Rainey Street
Supporter
Joined
Dec 18, 2008
Messages
1,959 (0.35/day)
Scales quite well I suppose I need to pick up a second one
 
Last edited:

qubit

Overclocked quantum bit
Joined
Dec 6, 2007
Messages
17,866 (3.01/day)
Location
Quantum Well UK
System Name Quantumville™
Processor Intel Core i7-2700K @ 4GHz
Motherboard Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
Cooling Noctua NH-D14
Memory 16GB (2 x 8GB Corsair Vengeance Black DDR3 PC3-12800 C9 1600MHz)
Video Card(s) MSI RTX 2080 SUPER Gaming X Trio
Storage Samsung 850 Pro 256GB | WD Black 4TB | WD Blue 6TB
Display(s) ASUS ROG Strix XG27UQR (4K, 144Hz, G-SYNC compatible) | Asus MG28UQ (4K, 60Hz, FreeSync compatible)
Case Cooler Master HAF 922
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty PCIe
Power Supply Corsair AX1600i
Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Pro - Black Shadow
Keyboard Yes
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
Nice review. Looks like there's some pretty good performance to be had if someone has the money.

I'd like to know how anyone with 4 Fury X cards would mount all those watercooling fans in the case though. Even if you found space for them in a large case, the short tubing wouldn't reach the furthest fan mountings.
 
Joined
Oct 22, 2014
Messages
13,210 (3.87/day)
Location
Sunshine Coast
System Name Black Box
Processor Intel Xeon E3-1260L v5
Motherboard MSI E3 KRAIT Gaming v5
Cooling Tt tower + 120mm Tt fan
Memory G.Skill 16GB 3600 C18
Video Card(s) Asus GTX 970 Mini
Storage Kingston A2000 512Gb NVME
Display(s) AOC 24" Freesync 1m.s. 75Hz
Case Corsair 450D High Air Flow.
Audio Device(s) No need.
Power Supply FSP Aurum 650W
Mouse Yes
Keyboard Of course
Software W10 Pro 64 bit
Joined
Aug 16, 2004
Messages
3,275 (0.46/day)
Location
Sunny California
Processor Intel Core i9 13900KF
Motherboard Asus ROG Maximus Z690 Hero EVA Edition
Cooling Asus Ryujin II 360 EVA Edition
Memory 4x16GBs DDR5 6800MHz G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo Series
Video Card(s) Zotac RTX 4090 AMP Extreme Airo
Storage 2TB Samsung 980 Pro OS - 4TB Nextorage G Series Games - 8TBs WD Black Storage
Display(s) LG C2 OLED 42" 4K 120Hz HDR G-Sync enabled TV
Case Asus ROG Helios EVA Edition
Audio Device(s) Denon AVR-S910W - 7.1 Klipsch Dolby ATMOS Speaker Setup - Audeze Maxwell
Power Supply EVGA Supernova G2 1300W
Mouse Asus ROG Keris EVA Edition - Asus ROG Scabbard II EVA Edition
Keyboard Asus ROG Strix Scope EVA Edition
VR HMD Samsung Odyssey VR
Software Windows 11 Pro 64bit
Amazing scaling for the Fury! Seems like crossfire scaling is better than SLI scaling at the moment, when using referral cards. Thank you for the review!

The last time I went for a quad card configuration was a quad SLI 680 rig, but the scaling was so atrocious going from two to three and even worse when going to four cards, that I decided to never do that again.

I wonder what those graphs would look like if all systems were water cooled, as the Nvidia cards are probably throttling heavily as previously suggested due to the limited airflow in such configuration, Fury in its reference form gets the upper hand in this scenario, too bad it is impractical to set four individual radiators in almost any case available right now.
 

the54thvoid

Intoxicated Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Dec 14, 2009
Messages
12,252 (2.36/day)
Location
Glasgow - home of formal profanity
Processor Ryzen 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI MAG Mortar B650 (wifi)
Cooling be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4
Memory 32GB Kingston Fury
Video Card(s) Gainward RTX4070ti
Storage Seagate FireCuda 530 M.2 1TB / Samsumg 960 Pro M.2 512Gb
Display(s) LG 32" 165Hz 1440p GSYNC
Case Asus Prime AP201
Audio Device(s) On Board
Power Supply be quiet! Pure POwer M12 850w Gold (ATX3.0)
Software W10
this actually answers a question i posed in the HBM overclocking thread - would the extra 'wasted' HBM bandwidth be a benefit to crossfire - the answer appears to be a yes.

I don't think that's HBM. Since Hawaii, AMD has started to scale better than Kepler and now Maxwell.
It's what draws me to a possible Fury X crossfire build. The problem is (due to the way some games are developed) the crossfire support isn't as widespread as Nvidia's. I know it covers most games but some big titles still have shady crossfire support.
 
Joined
May 9, 2012
Messages
8,332 (1.93/day)
Location
Ovronnaz, Wallis, Switzerland
System Name main/SFFHTPCARGH!(tm)/Xiaomi Mi TV Stick/Samsung Galaxy S23/Ally
Processor Ryzen 7 5800X3D/i7-3770/S905X/Snapdragon 8 Gen 2/Ryzen Z1 Extreme
Motherboard MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk/HP SFF Q77 Express/uh?/uh?/Asus
Cooling Enermax ETS-T50 Axe aRGB /basic HP HSF /errr.../oh! liqui..wait, no:sizable vapor chamber/a nice one
Memory 64gb Corsair Vengeance Pro 3600mhz DDR4/8gb DDR3 1600/2gb LPDDR3/8gb LPDDR5x 4200/16gb LPDDR5
Video Card(s) Hellhound Spectral White RX 7900 XTX 24gb/GT 730/Mali 450MP5/Adreno 740/RDNA3 768 core
Storage 250gb870EVO/500gb860EVO/2tbSandisk/NVMe2tb+1tb/4tbextreme V2/1TB Arion/500gb/8gb/256gb/2tb SN770M
Display(s) X58222 32" 2880x1620/32"FHDTV/273E3LHSB 27" 1920x1080/6.67"/AMOLED 2X panel FHD+120hz/FHD 120hz
Case Cougar Panzer Max/Elite 8300 SFF/None/back/back-front Gorilla Glass Victus 2+ UAG Monarch Carbon
Audio Device(s) Logi Z333/SB Audigy RX/HDMI/HDMI/Dolby Atmos/KZ x HBB PR2/Edifier STAX Spirit S3 & SamsungxAKG beans
Power Supply Chieftec Proton BDF-1000C /HP 240w/12v 1.5A/4Smart Voltplug PD 30W/Asus USB-C 65W
Mouse Speedlink Sovos Vertical-Asus ROG Spatha-Logi Ergo M575/Xiaomi XMRM-006/touch/touch
Keyboard Deltaco DK440R/none/touch/virtual
VR HMD Medion Erazer
Software Win10 64/Win8.1 64/Android TV 8.1/Android 13/Win11 64
Benchmark Scores bench...mark? i do leave mark on bench sometime, to remember which one is the most comfortable. :o
I'd like to know how anyone with 4 Fury X cards would mount all those watercooling fans in the case though. Even if you found space for them in a large case, the short tubing wouldn't reach the furthest fan mountings.
if you need the stock cooling on a reference card (any card): you're doing it wrong (imho and only imho) if i had a quad fury X CFX i would go 4 EK block alongside and a appropriate loop

altho i don't see where is the problem :D (if you buy 4 Fury X you have a adapted case and the knowledge to fit them inside :D )
matt-buck-furyx.jpg

I don't think that's HBM. Since Hawaii, AMD has started to scale better than Kepler and now Maxwell.
It's what draws me to a possible Fury X crossfire build. The problem is (due to the way some games are developed) the crossfire support isn't as widespread as Nvidia's. I know it covers most games but some big titles still have shady crossfire support.
well even with nvidia a multi GPU is not recommended ... aka: both brand are bad at it ... and single gpu solutions are enough, thought it's not what will keep me away to buy a 2nd 980 Poseidon later.
enthusiast point of view, technically don't care,
on the contrary SLI/CFX rigs for regular customer are just marketing ie a advertisement i did read on one of the aforementioned rig: "you can configure a multiple GPU for that computer for up to 3 time the POWER! 1 to 3 card working together, ie: 3x 980Ti 6gb which mean 2 time the power of a 980Ti and also 18gb video ram" misleading and also a total lie :D plus, you should see the overprice asked for any upgrade or options possible, it would make apple pass for a saint and a charity organization :laugh:

question what reason make you use SLI or CFX (curiosity)

nonetheless interesting review.
 

qubit

Overclocked quantum bit
Joined
Dec 6, 2007
Messages
17,866 (3.01/day)
Location
Quantum Well UK
System Name Quantumville™
Processor Intel Core i7-2700K @ 4GHz
Motherboard Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
Cooling Noctua NH-D14
Memory 16GB (2 x 8GB Corsair Vengeance Black DDR3 PC3-12800 C9 1600MHz)
Video Card(s) MSI RTX 2080 SUPER Gaming X Trio
Storage Samsung 850 Pro 256GB | WD Black 4TB | WD Blue 6TB
Display(s) ASUS ROG Strix XG27UQR (4K, 144Hz, G-SYNC compatible) | Asus MG28UQ (4K, 60Hz, FreeSync compatible)
Case Cooler Master HAF 922
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty PCIe
Power Supply Corsair AX1600i
Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Pro - Black Shadow
Keyboard Yes
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
if you need the stock cooling on a reference card (any card): you're doing it wrong (imho and only imho) if i had a quad fury X CFX i would go 4 EK block alongside and a appropriate loop

altho i don't see where is the problem :D (if you buy 4 Fury X you have a adapted case and the knowledge to fit them inside :D )
View attachment 66423
That picture isn't all that clear, but it looks like all the fans have been squeezed in. I can account for three fans, but am I right that the fourth one is the right hand one of the two top ones?

I don't believe that one should be forced into changing the stock cooler on today's cards, as they should be of good enough quality to just plug the thing in and go. If one especially wants water cooling for extreme overclocking, then that's of course another matter.

My MSI cards with non reference cooling for example certainly don't need their cooler changed. This model got a super high rating in TPU's review and impressed W1z so much that he ended up using it in his personal rig.
 
Joined
May 9, 2012
Messages
8,332 (1.93/day)
Location
Ovronnaz, Wallis, Switzerland
System Name main/SFFHTPCARGH!(tm)/Xiaomi Mi TV Stick/Samsung Galaxy S23/Ally
Processor Ryzen 7 5800X3D/i7-3770/S905X/Snapdragon 8 Gen 2/Ryzen Z1 Extreme
Motherboard MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk/HP SFF Q77 Express/uh?/uh?/Asus
Cooling Enermax ETS-T50 Axe aRGB /basic HP HSF /errr.../oh! liqui..wait, no:sizable vapor chamber/a nice one
Memory 64gb Corsair Vengeance Pro 3600mhz DDR4/8gb DDR3 1600/2gb LPDDR3/8gb LPDDR5x 4200/16gb LPDDR5
Video Card(s) Hellhound Spectral White RX 7900 XTX 24gb/GT 730/Mali 450MP5/Adreno 740/RDNA3 768 core
Storage 250gb870EVO/500gb860EVO/2tbSandisk/NVMe2tb+1tb/4tbextreme V2/1TB Arion/500gb/8gb/256gb/2tb SN770M
Display(s) X58222 32" 2880x1620/32"FHDTV/273E3LHSB 27" 1920x1080/6.67"/AMOLED 2X panel FHD+120hz/FHD 120hz
Case Cougar Panzer Max/Elite 8300 SFF/None/back/back-front Gorilla Glass Victus 2+ UAG Monarch Carbon
Audio Device(s) Logi Z333/SB Audigy RX/HDMI/HDMI/Dolby Atmos/KZ x HBB PR2/Edifier STAX Spirit S3 & SamsungxAKG beans
Power Supply Chieftec Proton BDF-1000C /HP 240w/12v 1.5A/4Smart Voltplug PD 30W/Asus USB-C 65W
Mouse Speedlink Sovos Vertical-Asus ROG Spatha-Logi Ergo M575/Xiaomi XMRM-006/touch/touch
Keyboard Deltaco DK440R/none/touch/virtual
VR HMD Medion Erazer
Software Win10 64/Win8.1 64/Android TV 8.1/Android 13/Win11 64
Benchmark Scores bench...mark? i do leave mark on bench sometime, to remember which one is the most comfortable. :o
That picture isn't all that clear, but it looks like all the fans have been squeezed in. I can account for three fans, but am I right that the fourth one is the right hand one of the two top ones?

I don't believe that one should be forced into changing the stock cooler on today's cards, as they should be of good enough quality to just plug the thing in and go. If one especially wants water cooling for extreme overclocking, then that's of course another matter.

My MSI cards with non reference cooling for example certainly don't need their cooler changed. This model got a super high rating in TPU's review and impressed W1z so much that he ended up using it in his personal rig.
the pics (who is perfectly clear to me since i see all the position of the rads include the CPU AIO) show a Corsair H110i GT on the top and the 4th Fury X rad is on the front: well yes he didn't need to change his stock cooler ... ahah and the stock cooler is good enough nonetheless.

(if you buy 4 Fury X you have a adapted case and the knowledge to fit them inside :D ).
in the end this is the point :D

My MSI cards with non reference cooling for example certainly don't need their cooler changed. This model got a super high rating in TPU's review and impressed W1z so much that he ended up using it in his personal rig.
wrong example :D i did write "reference card" ie: my R9 290

i didn't water cool it to squeeze more mhz, in the process there was also aesthetic reason and noise reason, not that a stock hamster wheel at 65% perma is quieter than my quad 1800rpm (100% ) 120mm tho :laugh:
my Poseidon Platinum 980 didn't need a block change thanks to the waterpipe added on the DCUII-H2O (even if only on fan it would be sufficient ... i just wanted to recycle my Phobya G-Changer 240 V2 :) )
also i bet i could fit 4 fury X in my AIR540 the tubing of the card would be too long for at last 3 of them and i would have to shift the 240 rad of the Triton above the casing instead of just under :roll:
tho ... even 2 of them would be sufficient o_O
 

qubit

Overclocked quantum bit
Joined
Dec 6, 2007
Messages
17,866 (3.01/day)
Location
Quantum Well UK
System Name Quantumville™
Processor Intel Core i7-2700K @ 4GHz
Motherboard Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
Cooling Noctua NH-D14
Memory 16GB (2 x 8GB Corsair Vengeance Black DDR3 PC3-12800 C9 1600MHz)
Video Card(s) MSI RTX 2080 SUPER Gaming X Trio
Storage Samsung 850 Pro 256GB | WD Black 4TB | WD Blue 6TB
Display(s) ASUS ROG Strix XG27UQR (4K, 144Hz, G-SYNC compatible) | Asus MG28UQ (4K, 60Hz, FreeSync compatible)
Case Cooler Master HAF 922
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty PCIe
Power Supply Corsair AX1600i
Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Pro - Black Shadow
Keyboard Yes
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
@GreiverBlade Sorry, I missed your question on why I've gone SLI. :oops: In short, I wasn't going to go SLI.

I bought the first 780 Ti back in January 2014 for around £500, when it was still a new model and have been very happy with it, especially with that amazing non reference cooler. I don't like loud cards, but seriously dude, with this model noise is a thing of the past!

Then Big Maxwell was on the cards early this year and the performance gain didn't seem it would be all that compelling over what I have, we didn't know when it would be released and the price was gonna be £500+ for sure, which it is.

Then in March, Scan saw me coming lol and had the exact same model for sale that I had. It's discontinued now, but they must have gotten a job lot of them and were flogging it for £340, including the shipping. Given the above about Big Maxwell, I jumped and bought one. And to be honest, I don't really regret it, either. Performance is really good, noise is only a tad louder while gaming and almost no SLI issues. Only UT2004 is completely broken with it which really pisses me off as I still like to play it a lot, but otherwise it's all good.

I'm gonna skip Maxwell and see what Pascal has to offer, which is gonna be a lot more powerful, plus I'll hopefully be on Skylake by then too, which will hopefully have noticeably better gaming performance than my 2700K, although I wouldn't bank on it from what I've read about it so far.

My trusty 2700K is defnitely showing its limits now when I'm trying to hit a steady 120fps on a 120Hz display vsync locked with modern games. On top of this, my system isn't 100% stable at stock, which is why I don't overclock the CPU nowadays (I never overclock the graphics card anyway). Been meaning to start a thread on this, but I haven't gone through enough troubleshooting steps yet to warrant it and to be honest, I may never bother as I hope to change it out sooner rather than later. The problem is very intermittent and we're talking about a bsod at startup and even rarer, while it's running.

Re the reference card, well you didn't mention the R9 290, so I can't know you're thinking about this model! :) Anway, yeah, why am I not surprised that AMD fucked up with the cooler on the R9 290. :rolleyes: I remember facepalming hard when the reviews came out and the cooler was revealed to be so unnecessarily lame. You really shouldn't have had to water cool it to get decent noise levels out of it and to prevent throttling. To be fair, even NVIDIA's stock cooler is leaving something to be desired now when it comes to preventing throttling, but at least they're not too noisy. Heck, my 780 Ti with non-reference cooler will also throttle, which is rather annoying. MSI Afterburner is very revealing in this respect.
 
Last edited:
Joined
May 9, 2012
Messages
8,332 (1.93/day)
Location
Ovronnaz, Wallis, Switzerland
System Name main/SFFHTPCARGH!(tm)/Xiaomi Mi TV Stick/Samsung Galaxy S23/Ally
Processor Ryzen 7 5800X3D/i7-3770/S905X/Snapdragon 8 Gen 2/Ryzen Z1 Extreme
Motherboard MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk/HP SFF Q77 Express/uh?/uh?/Asus
Cooling Enermax ETS-T50 Axe aRGB /basic HP HSF /errr.../oh! liqui..wait, no:sizable vapor chamber/a nice one
Memory 64gb Corsair Vengeance Pro 3600mhz DDR4/8gb DDR3 1600/2gb LPDDR3/8gb LPDDR5x 4200/16gb LPDDR5
Video Card(s) Hellhound Spectral White RX 7900 XTX 24gb/GT 730/Mali 450MP5/Adreno 740/RDNA3 768 core
Storage 250gb870EVO/500gb860EVO/2tbSandisk/NVMe2tb+1tb/4tbextreme V2/1TB Arion/500gb/8gb/256gb/2tb SN770M
Display(s) X58222 32" 2880x1620/32"FHDTV/273E3LHSB 27" 1920x1080/6.67"/AMOLED 2X panel FHD+120hz/FHD 120hz
Case Cougar Panzer Max/Elite 8300 SFF/None/back/back-front Gorilla Glass Victus 2+ UAG Monarch Carbon
Audio Device(s) Logi Z333/SB Audigy RX/HDMI/HDMI/Dolby Atmos/KZ x HBB PR2/Edifier STAX Spirit S3 & SamsungxAKG beans
Power Supply Chieftec Proton BDF-1000C /HP 240w/12v 1.5A/4Smart Voltplug PD 30W/Asus USB-C 65W
Mouse Speedlink Sovos Vertical-Asus ROG Spatha-Logi Ergo M575/Xiaomi XMRM-006/touch/touch
Keyboard Deltaco DK440R/none/touch/virtual
VR HMD Medion Erazer
Software Win10 64/Win8.1 64/Android TV 8.1/Android 13/Win11 64
Benchmark Scores bench...mark? i do leave mark on bench sometime, to remember which one is the most comfortable. :o
@GreiverBlade Sorry, I missed your question on why I've gone SLI. :oops: In short, I wasn't going to go SLI.

I bought the first 780 Ti back in January 2014 for around £500, when it was still a new model and have been very happy with it, especially with that amazing non reference cooler. I don't like loud cards, but seriously dude, with this model noise is a thing of the past!

Then Big Maxwell was on the cards early this year and the performance gain didn't seem it would be all that compelling over what I have, we didn't know when it would be released and the price was gonna be £500+ for sure, which it is.

Then in March, Scan saw me coming lol and had the exact same model for sale that I had. It's discontinued now, but they must have gotten a job lot of them and were flogging it for £340, including the shipping. Given the above about Big Maxwell, I jumped and bought one. And to be honest, I don't really regret it, either. Performance is really good, noise is only a tad louder while gaming and almost no SLI issues. Only UT2004 is completely broken with it which really pisses me off as I still like to play it a lot, but otherwise it's all good.

I'm gonna skip Maxwell and see what Pascal has to offer, which is gonna be a lot more powerful, plus I'll hopefully be on Skylake by then too, which will hopefully have noticeably better gaming performance than my 2700K, although I wouldn't bank on it from what I've read about it so far.

My trusty 2700K is defnitely showing its limits now when I'm trying to hit a steady 120fps on a 120Hz display vsync locked with modern games. On top of this, my system isn't 100% stable at stock, which is why I don't overclock the CPU nowadays (I never overclock the graphics card anyway). Been meaning to start a thread on this, but I haven't gone through enough troubleshooting steps yet to warrant it and to be honest, I may never bother as I hope to change it out sooner rather than later. The problem is very intermittent and we're talking about a bsod at startup and even rarer, while it's running.

Re the reference card, well you didn't mention the R9 290, so I can't know you're thinking about this model! :) Anway, yeah, why am I not surprised that AMD fucked up with the cooler on the R9 290. :rolleyes: I remember facepalming hard when the reviews came out and the cooler was revealed to be so unnecessarily lame. You really shouldn't have had to water cool it to get decent noise levels out of it and to prevent throttling. To be fair, even NVIDIA's stock cooler is leaving something to be desired now when it comes to preventing throttling, but at least they're not too noisy. Heck, my 780 Ti with non-reference cooler will also throttle, which is rather annoying. MSI Afterburner is very revealing in this respect.
the question was originally aimed @the54thvoid ;) but also in a general manner, since i, most of the time, fail to see the real benefit of a SLI or CFX (and i had a GTX 580 Matrix Platinum SLI for a moment which i reverted to single card since then, 290 then 980 then ... time will tell. )

as for the performances of a 780 SLI is on par or slightly above my own 980 a pair of Ti's would be way sufficient to skip Maxwell indeed (if SLI CFX was really useful in the end ... scaling support and such trivial matter make it not so shiny imho)
 
Joined
Jun 20, 2007
Messages
3,937 (0.65/day)
System Name Widow
Processor Ryzen 7600x
Motherboard AsRock B650 HDVM.2
Cooling CPU : Corsair Hydro XC7 }{ GPU: EK FC 1080 via Magicool 360 III PRO > Photon 170 (D5)
Memory 32GB Gskill Flare X5
Video Card(s) GTX 1080 TI
Storage Samsung 9series NVM 2TB and Rust
Display(s) Predator X34P/Tempest X270OC @ 120hz / LG W3000h
Case Fractal Define S [Antec Skeleton hanging in hall of fame]
Audio Device(s) Asus Xonar Xense with AKG K612 cans on Monacor SA-100
Power Supply Seasonic X-850
Mouse Razer Naga 2014
Software Windows 11 Pro
Benchmark Scores FFXIV ARR Benchmark 12,883 on i7 2600k 15,098 on AM5 7600x
I still find the rad on the Fury to be ridiculously clunky. Where exactly should you put it? Assuming of course you've already managed to route it out of a tower - is that through the back or do we have to cut holes in the case panel? And do you just let it hang somewhere, or sit on the carpet? Should you lay down a little wooden board? Will it think it's on a mini broadway stage and forget what they are doing?

Are we going to have to stock up on zipties so we can strap and unstrap it from the case?
 
Last edited:
Joined
Oct 22, 2014
Messages
13,210 (3.87/day)
Location
Sunshine Coast
System Name Black Box
Processor Intel Xeon E3-1260L v5
Motherboard MSI E3 KRAIT Gaming v5
Cooling Tt tower + 120mm Tt fan
Memory G.Skill 16GB 3600 C18
Video Card(s) Asus GTX 970 Mini
Storage Kingston A2000 512Gb NVME
Display(s) AOC 24" Freesync 1m.s. 75Hz
Case Corsair 450D High Air Flow.
Audio Device(s) No need.
Power Supply FSP Aurum 650W
Mouse Yes
Keyboard Of course
Software W10 Pro 64 bit
I still find the rad on the Fury to be ridiculously clunky. Where exactly should you put it?
Seriously?
Most modern cases have room for at least 3 120mm fans with radiators, and you want to make stupid suggestions about routing them out of a case? :slap:
 
Joined
May 9, 2012
Messages
8,332 (1.93/day)
Location
Ovronnaz, Wallis, Switzerland
System Name main/SFFHTPCARGH!(tm)/Xiaomi Mi TV Stick/Samsung Galaxy S23/Ally
Processor Ryzen 7 5800X3D/i7-3770/S905X/Snapdragon 8 Gen 2/Ryzen Z1 Extreme
Motherboard MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk/HP SFF Q77 Express/uh?/uh?/Asus
Cooling Enermax ETS-T50 Axe aRGB /basic HP HSF /errr.../oh! liqui..wait, no:sizable vapor chamber/a nice one
Memory 64gb Corsair Vengeance Pro 3600mhz DDR4/8gb DDR3 1600/2gb LPDDR3/8gb LPDDR5x 4200/16gb LPDDR5
Video Card(s) Hellhound Spectral White RX 7900 XTX 24gb/GT 730/Mali 450MP5/Adreno 740/RDNA3 768 core
Storage 250gb870EVO/500gb860EVO/2tbSandisk/NVMe2tb+1tb/4tbextreme V2/1TB Arion/500gb/8gb/256gb/2tb SN770M
Display(s) X58222 32" 2880x1620/32"FHDTV/273E3LHSB 27" 1920x1080/6.67"/AMOLED 2X panel FHD+120hz/FHD 120hz
Case Cougar Panzer Max/Elite 8300 SFF/None/back/back-front Gorilla Glass Victus 2+ UAG Monarch Carbon
Audio Device(s) Logi Z333/SB Audigy RX/HDMI/HDMI/Dolby Atmos/KZ x HBB PR2/Edifier STAX Spirit S3 & SamsungxAKG beans
Power Supply Chieftec Proton BDF-1000C /HP 240w/12v 1.5A/4Smart Voltplug PD 30W/Asus USB-C 65W
Mouse Speedlink Sovos Vertical-Asus ROG Spatha-Logi Ergo M575/Xiaomi XMRM-006/touch/touch
Keyboard Deltaco DK440R/none/touch/virtual
VR HMD Medion Erazer
Software Win10 64/Win8.1 64/Android TV 8.1/Android 13/Win11 64
Benchmark Scores bench...mark? i do leave mark on bench sometime, to remember which one is the most comfortable. :o
I still find the rad on the Fury to be ridiculously clunky. Where exactly should you put it? Assuming of course you've already managed to route it out of a tower - is that through the back or do we have to cut holes in the case panel? And do you just let it hang somewhere, or sit on the carpet? Should you lay down a little wooden board? Will it think it's on a mini broadway stage and forget what they are doing?

Are we going to have to stock up on zipties so we can strap and unstrap it from the case?
Seriously?
Most modern cases have room for at least 3 120mm fans with radiators, and you want to make stupid suggestions about routing them out of a case? :slap:
as i wrote in my 2 previous post ... someone who want to do that ... is prepared and know where he will put the cards rad (well ... a normal logical someone...) my AIR540 has a 6x120 or 5x140 configuration
many case can accommodate 1 or more of them with ease (IE: a AIR540 or a Phantek, seeming that it's a Enthoo but i can't pinpoint the variation) ofc if you have a mITX case or a case that can't fit that ... then choose something else :D (or do like i would ... EK WB and a loop o_O but ofc it's imho)


btw... temp of the 4 card under load : 48-56°c
http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-4-way-crossfire-setup-benchmarked_167338
https://twitter.com/TheMattB81
 

HTC

Joined
Apr 1, 2008
Messages
4,594 (0.79/day)
Location
Portugal
System Name HTC's System
Processor Ryzen 5 2600X
Motherboard Asrock Taichi X370
Cooling NH-C14, with the AM4 mounting kit
Memory G.Skill Kit 16GB DDR4 F4 - 3200 C16D - 16 GTZB
Video Card(s) Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 480 OC 4 GB
Storage 1 Samsung NVMe 960 EVO 250 GB + 1 3.5" Seagate IronWolf Pro 6TB 7200RPM 256MB SATA III
Display(s) LG 27UD58
Case Fractal Design Define R6 USB-C
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Corsair TX 850M 80+ Gold
Mouse Razer Deathadder Elite
Software Ubuntu 19.04 LTS
Anyone know if a eyefinity 4K review and comparing to nVidia's 980 Ti / Titan X has been done yet?

Obviously, a single card will be insufficient and, probably, a 2nd card will not be enough, so i'm thinking 3 or 4 cards to run this.

From this review here it's apparent that 4 GB in HBM "format" is more then sufficient to drive 4K in CF configs. I'm just wondering if HBM will show it's limitations (if any) in such scenario.
 

Mussels

Freshwater Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 6, 2004
Messages
58,413 (8.25/day)
Location
Oystralia
System Name Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s) Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s) Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s) Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores Nyooom.
I don't think that's HBM. Since Hawaii, AMD has started to scale better than Kepler and now Maxwell.
It's what draws me to a possible Fury X crossfire build. The problem is (due to the way some games are developed) the crossfire support isn't as widespread as Nvidia's. I know it covers most games but some big titles still have shady crossfire support.

crossfire and SLI really only add the GPU power, since hte VRAM is duplicated. One of the major reasons SLI and crossfire dont scale well beyond 2 cards, is the VRAM itself becomes the limit - the HBM overclocking threads showed that these cards have an excess of VRAM performance already, and logic implies that excess helps feed the extra GPU's in crossfire.
 

qubit

Overclocked quantum bit
Joined
Dec 6, 2007
Messages
17,866 (3.01/day)
Location
Quantum Well UK
System Name Quantumville™
Processor Intel Core i7-2700K @ 4GHz
Motherboard Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
Cooling Noctua NH-D14
Memory 16GB (2 x 8GB Corsair Vengeance Black DDR3 PC3-12800 C9 1600MHz)
Video Card(s) MSI RTX 2080 SUPER Gaming X Trio
Storage Samsung 850 Pro 256GB | WD Black 4TB | WD Blue 6TB
Display(s) ASUS ROG Strix XG27UQR (4K, 144Hz, G-SYNC compatible) | Asus MG28UQ (4K, 60Hz, FreeSync compatible)
Case Cooler Master HAF 922
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty PCIe
Power Supply Corsair AX1600i
Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Pro - Black Shadow
Keyboard Yes
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
the question was originally aimed @the54thvoid ;) but also in a general manner, since i, most of the time, fail to see the real benefit of a SLI or CFX (and i had a GTX 580 Matrix Platinum SLI for a moment which i reverted to single card since then, 290 then 980 then ... time will tell. )

as for the performances of a 780 SLI is on par or slightly above my own 980 a pair of Ti's would be way sufficient to skip Maxwell indeed (if SLI CFX was really useful in the end ... scaling support and such trivial matter make it not so shiny imho)
Duh! You did indeed. I've lost the plot again. :laugh:

I agree that generally single card is best for less hassle. You see, Scan saw me coming, because they knew it was one of those buy it now or lose it situations. If hadn't bought it, then I might have been tempted to get that Asus Strix 980 Ti that TPU reviewed or something, but I'm not that bothered really and am happy to wait for Pascal with my current setup.
 
Top