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Kinda skipped the whole XFS thing altogether. Most of my linux servers either run ext4 or btrfs, while Freebsd servers mostly run on ZFS. Latter one is much more user friendly - all you need to do is check one checkbox during install, and worry about maintenance later :D:D:D
 
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I prefer to run plain vanilla ext4 because it's just way more resilient. I've had experience with XFS and it isn't bad or anything, but I've seen data loss over unexpected shutdowns.

On FreeBSD I'd run ZFS. It's way better than the other alternatives IMO. BTRFS exists but it's still immature and honestly btrfs still feels a like "lose my data rollercoaster" fs (and happened to me plenty, feel free to correct me if its any better nowadays -- last used it in 2021)
 
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Same. It is the default filesystem of nearly every Linus distro out there for a reason. That said, there's nothing wrong with experimentation.
RHEL and clones use XFS as the default; openSUSE Leap (and almost certainly SLES/SLED too) uses Btrfs as its default filesystem. And those are both enterprise distributions, so I would not say that XFS is inferior or "experimental" or that ext4 is especially stable at all.

Kinda skipped the whole XFS thing altogether. Most of my linux servers either run ext4 or btrfs, while Freebsd servers mostly run on ZFS. Latter one is much more user friendly - all you need to do is check one checkbox during install, and worry about maintenance later :D:D:D
XFS existed before ext4 (and even ext3) was a thing. That said, significant new features are planned and it is still actively developed.
 
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RHEL and clones use XFS as the default; openSUSE Leap (and almost certainly SLES/SLED too) uses Btrfs as its default filesystem. And those are both enterprise distributions
Perhaps I should restate: Nearly every desktop distro of Linux uses EXT4.
 
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Any love for JFS?
When I last geeked out over file systems ~15-20 years ago, I ultimately settled on JFS for my NAS, still in use. ZFS has captured my mindshare but not yet knowhow at this point.

My primary desktop’s FS is still ReiserFS (!= Reiser4), but now generally using Ext4 otherwise for desktop use.
 

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ZFS has captured my mindshare but not yet knowhow at this point.

at 15-20 if your anything like me, maybe you saw it using solaris, or otherwise just playing with anything from sun microsystems.
 
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at 15-20 if your anything like me, maybe you saw it using solaris, or otherwise just playing with anything from sun microsystems.
Yeah, I did poke at Solaris a bit. Time truly waits for no one, but that was a fun era for us nerds imho.

The biggest issue with ZFS for me is that life gives you only so much time, so there’s only so much capacity to geek out. (And for me, most non-vocational geekery time investment was a product of my youth. At this point in life, personal time much more often just means needing to veg out.) So unless I ran Solaris, FreeBSD, or whatever over the various years, then using ZFS was, or at least felt like, more than what I wanted to bother with. I’ll look at it again when my brain on a whim of curiosity wants to chase a ZFS rabbit trail, but unless Debian or whatever distro I may ever fancy for NAS use gives me a simple ZFS option upon installation, I might not ever bother with it until maybe retirement some decades from now. That’s a sobering thought, actually.
 
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Any love for JFS?
When I last geeked out over file systems ~15-20 years ago, I ultimately settled on JFS for my NAS, still in use. ZFS has captured my mindshare but not yet knowhow at this point.

My primary desktop’s FS is still ReiserFS (!= Reiser4), but now generally using Ext4 otherwise for desktop use.
JFS is as old as it gets (it's from IBM courtesy the OS/2 era, actually used it there first lol) but is actually quite a decent performer. That said, there is almost no activity on its codebase, which is its own issue.
 
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For the really big iron stuff we don't even use XFS, EXT4, ZFS, UFS, HFS, etc.
 
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I was going to mention FAT, but I didn’t want to show off.
If you wanted to show off, you'd have mentioned something really truly obscure like HPFS.
 
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You mean xfs on kubuntu specifically or? its not a new FS I have used it for years on production data arrays.
any particular reason instead of zfs?
 

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any particular reason instead of zfs?

Depending on application I dont have the ram to back the size arrays I am using. That and I stick with hardware backplanes and controllers.
 
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If you wanted to show off, you'd have mentioned something really truly obscure like HPFS.
Come on now, that's almost common. If you want REALLY obscure, try something like DCTS. It's so bizarre and rare that I don't know of any utility that can set it up. In case you're wondering, DCTS is an old floppy format from 1970's era Soviet Union computer systems.
 
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One of the first filing systems i used was the Acorn Cassette Filing System. It was very robust, and chunked the data into blocks such that if there was a CRC error on a data block, you were warned, could wind the tape back a few seconds, and try again. If that failed, you could turn the volume up/down on the cassette recorder and try again. I can still remember the sound of those data blocks, header IDs and training intermissions, DAAH…brrrrrrrrrrrrrr. DAAH…brrrrrrrrrr

As a teenager, those were the sounds of anticipation, waiting patiently for the game to load…
 

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Dam takes me back to an 8" floppy drive I had and a box of the huge floppy disks I had to go with it. Fat12 baby! Wish I had saved those. Might even still have them heh.
 

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Any love for JFS?
When I last geeked out over file systems ~15-20 years ago, I ultimately settled on JFS for my NAS, still in use. ZFS has captured my mindshare but not yet knowhow at this point.

My primary desktop’s FS is still ReiserFS (!= Reiser4), but now generally using Ext4 otherwise for desktop use.
After some debacles with EXT2/3 in the early linux days, JFS became my choice for home and other data systems for a long time. It is/was rock solid. Within the last couple years I started moving to XFS and ZFS. Sadly, it looks like JFS is a target to be removed from the mainline kernel. https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-Possible-Orphan-JFS
 
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After some debacles with EXT2/3 in the early linux days, JFS became my choice for home and other data systems for a long time. It is/was rock solid. Within the last couple years I started moving to XFS and ZFS. Sadly, it looks like JFS is a target to be removed from the mainline kernel. https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-Possible-Orphan-JFS
Sad. I thought this had come up before and the counter argument at the time was that lack of updates wasn’t a reflection of abandonment but utter maturity.
 
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Multiple users have been reporting metadata corruption issues on the XFS file-system when upgrading to the Linux 6.3 stable kernel.

Since last week has been this Red Hat BugZilla report over XFS metadata corruption when upgrading to Linux 6.3.3. Others have chimed in as well that others are seeing their servers consistently crash when running Linux 6.3 on their XFS-based servers. A Debian user has also reported similar XFS with Linux 6.3 issues too.

The Linux 6.4 kernel is reportedly working fine for some affected users, which is making it look like some patch(es) may have been poorly back-ported to the newer Linux 6.3 point releases. Right now the Red Hat developers involved in maintaining the kernel builds for Fedora are waiting on more reports/testing for working to track down the problem.

So for now those running an XFS file-system would be advised to stay off Linux 6.3 until the situation is sorted out and resolved.
 
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Sad. I thought this had come up before and the counter argument at the time was that lack of updates wasn’t a reflection of abandonment but utter maturity.
Their argument is actually pretty ironic considering Linux still has a in-kernel driver for OS/2 HPFS... lol.
 
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