Anyone have a SCEPTRE X20WC-Gamer?

[x800professor]

As the title asks... anyone have a SCEPTRE X20WC-Gamer?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16824112003

I'm thinking about buying it....but I can't make up my mind. I don't want to spend $200+ on something that I am going to hate. I'm used to CRTs, and I hate dead pixels. I also want something with decent color. I do play games, so ghosting is not good. I also like the fact that it supports HDCP. Anyone have any experience with this monitor?

 

[hat]

imo 20 inch is a bit much...

 

[x800professor]

imo 20 inch is a bit much...

I like big. My 22" Compaq P1220 professional CRT (never seen an LCD that can match its image quality) makes me happy. Sadly, that monitor stays on my home computer and doesn't go with me to college.

 

[mullered07]

imo 20 inch is a bit much...

why? im sure his 8800gts could cope with the 1600x1050 res without sweating too much, the bigger the better i say, hooked up my pc to my hyundai image quest 32" tv and nfs mw plays like a dream. tho mrs wouldnt let me keep it there she has the crazy idea of just watching tv on it

 

[Wile E]

Nobody is chiming in, so I'll add my experience with Sceptres. The model I worked with is about 2-3 yrs old, however. My dad has a 19" 4:3 1280x1024 Sceptre. The thing has wicked response time. It's only rated at 12ms, but that was in the time that 16 was considered good. Image quality is good, pixel pitch is good. No tearing or ghosting, but it has one major flaw that drives me crazy- backlight bleed. The outside edges have terrible bleed thru.

 

[x800professor]

Nobody is chiming in, so I'll add my experience with Sceptres. The model I worked with is about 2-3 yrs old, however. My dad has a 19" 4:3 1280x1024 Sceptre. The thing has wicked response time. It's only rated at 12ms, but that was in the time that 16 was considered good. Image quality is good, pixel pitch is good. No tearing or ghosting, but it has one major flaw that drives me crazy- backlight bleed. The outside edges have terrible bleed thru.

That's another thing I just can't stand about LCDs. You can NEVER have true black on an LCD. You can't have black when there is light shining behind it that isn't the source of the image! All LCDs have some sort of light bleed, but some are worse than others. I really wish I could see that sceptre in person, but no one sells it near me. I've heard costco does, but they are about 35 miles away from my normal (non-college) home. I just want the next (post-lcd) generation of displays to get here already.

 

[inachu]

As the title asks... anyone have a SCEPTRE X20WC-Gamer?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16824112003

I'm thinking about buying it....but I can't make up my mind. I don't want to spend $200+ on something that I am going to hate. I'm used to CRTs, and I hate dead pixels. I also want something with decent color. I do play games, so ghosting is not good. I also like the fact that it supports HDCP. Anyone have any experience with this monitor?

My dell 19" lcd monitor does not ghost and does not have any dead pixels.

 

[technicks]

My next one is gonna be a IIyama 22''. Very good imo.

 

[x800professor]

My next one is gonna be a IIyama 22''. Very good imo.

I'd rather have a 20.1". The image quality is better. It's the same resolution, but the pixels are just closer together. I saw a few 20.1" LCDs sitting next to some 22" LCDs, and the image quality was clearly better on the 20.1s. I was planning on a 22", until I really thought about it and then saw the difference. I'd rather have better image quality than a 1.9" bigger monitor.

 

[technicks]

Thanks that is some usefull info. I will keep that in mind if i'm gonna buy a new screen.

 

[bruins004]

I'd rather have a 20.1". The image quality is better. It's the same resolution, but the pixels are just closer together. I saw a few 20.1" LCDs sitting next to some 22" LCDs, and the image quality was clearly better on the 20.1s. I was planning on a 22", until I really thought about it and then saw the difference. I'd rather have better image quality than a 1.9" bigger monitor.

I agree with that.
Thats why I went with my 2 20.1"
From the specs and what I have heard, Sceptre is not a bad budget LCD company.
However, most of their LCDs do suffer from backlight bleeding in the corners (like most LCD screens).
But for that price, it is pretty good.

I made my move from CRT to LCD about a year and a half ago.
And I will never go back.
I went from an 17" CRT to a 17" LCD and it was much brighter, smaller and nicer to look at.
Now I got my 20.1" screens and it is even better

If you have more cash check out the Dell 20.1" (the E version which is cheaper).
I have it and its a good monitor, but not as good as my Viewsonic.

 

[x800professor]

I agree with that.
Thats why I went with my 2 20.1"
From the specs and what I have heard, Sceptre is not a bad budget LCD company.
However, most of their LCDs do suffer from backlight bleeding in the corners (like most LCD screens).
But for that price, it is pretty good.

I made my move from CRT to LCD about a year and a half ago.
And I will never go back.
I went from an 17" CRT to a 17" LCD and it was much brighter, smaller and nicer to look at.
Now I got my 20.1" screens and it is even better

If you have more cash check out the Dell 20.1" (the E version which is cheaper).
I have it and its a good monitor, but not as good as my Viewsonic.

I've heard the sceptre is an MVA panel. I like MVAs. I hate TN+Film panels. The colors suck. If you are used to TNs or crappy crts, then you won't notice how bad the color is until you put it next to an MVA or a nice CRT (like my P1220). TNs are good for response time and price, but not for anything else. The only thing I wonder about is that I haven't seen any MVAs faster than 8ms and that one is 5ms. I hope someone reviews it soon (like cnet or tomshardware).

 

[x800professor]

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1111802&page=2

After reading that, I think I'll stay away from the sceptre.

 

[bruins004]

Not completely true about the TN panels.
You just have to find an 8 bit panel or a 6 bit + dithering panel.
These panels have 16.8 million colors instead of the 16.2 million colors that the regular 6 bit panels have.

As I said look towards Dell or Viewsonic for 20.1" panels.
They are more expensive, but have a better quality

 

[erocker]

I've been hearing good things about the 22" Scepter 1080p model. It's only like $239.00 bucks right now!

 

[ktr]

i have this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009094

and its great....

 

[x800professor]

Not completely true about the TN panels.
You just have to find an 8 bit panel or a 6 bit + dithering panel.
These panels have 16.8 million colors instead of the 16.2 million colors that the regular 6 bit panels have.

As I said look towards Dell or Viewsonic for 20.1" panels.
They are more expensive, but have a better quality

The 16.7 million color TN panels still look like crap in comparison to MVA or IPS panels, but they do look better than 6 bit TN panels. No matter what bit depth the TN panel has...it still has crappy viewing angles.

 

[Wile E]

I know this may be blasphemous to some people here, but what about a 20" Apple Cinema Display? My iMac has the same panel built in, and it is amazingly beautiful. Much better than the 19" Samsung 941w I just bought (which has been a bit of a disappointment. Wish I would've waited a couple of weeks and just got the new Samsung 19" we spoke about before, but the CRT induced headaches where driving me crazy. lol) The Apple doesn't ghost at all watching movies (haven't tried gaming tho, 1680x1050 and Mobility X1600s don't mix. lol), and the blacks are better than most other lcds that I've seen. If it's too pricey, I have heard that the 16.7m Dell 20" have the same panel, but at a considerably lower price.

 

[yogurt_21]

I have this one and love it, not noticible backlight, no ghosting, fast responce and widescreen. colors are brilliant (especially compared to cheaper brands and the q something viewsonic cheap models)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824116062

and as always take newegg reviews with a grain of salt. one gut didn't like it because of the blue power light? wtf?

 

[bruins004]

The 16.7 million color TN panels still look like crap in comparison to MVA or IPS panels, but they do look better than 6 bit TN panels. No matter what bit depth the TN panel has...it still has crappy viewing angles.

Just out of curiousity why not get the Dell Ultrasharp 20" or 20.1"?

 

[x800professor]

Just out of curiousity why not get the Dell Ultrasharp 20" or 20.1"?

You mean like a 2007WFP? That's over $350. After rebates the sceptre is like $190. That's like discussing whether or not to buy a Corolla and then asking, "Why not a BMW?"

 

[Wile E]

You mean like a 2007WFP? That's over $350. After rebates the sceptre is like $190. That's like discussing whether or not to buy a Corolla and then asking, "Why not a BMW?"

That's the problem with looking for a 20" panel that's 16.7m. Most of them are pricey as hell.

How about the Samsung? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001095

 

[SpoonMuffin]

dell uses Benq to produce their monotors, my advice is check out benq, many/most times u can find the benq branded cheaper then the dell.

and responce time means very little, because theres no set way to caculate it, my dell (benq) 2001fp is rated at 16ms, but dosnt ghost at all, and is VERY vivid, also has a nice dotpitch, one of the few LCD's i have liked, im more a CRT fan really, i loved my old hitchi 22in prof display, to bad it got smoked(overload blew the mode switch when i wasnt around, it clicked on and off till some parts acctualy caught fire inside......)

and i have setup a few people with Scepter branded monotors, no problems or complaints, the one time i thought one had a dead pixel it didnt, just one was stuck, they said to push on it gently 5 times, 2nd push it was fixed, hasnt given her any trouble since.

if you want a cheap high end CRT try www.merkortech.com (thank ashen for that hes the one who got me hooked on their monotors) i got a 21in IBM dvi-d+vga+svideo+composit video monotor for 145bucks shiped, wish i hadnt sold it, would be good for dual display with this lcd

 

[LonGun]

As the title asks... anyone have a SCEPTRE X20WC-Gamer?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16824112003

I'm thinking about buying it....but I can't make up my mind. I don't want to spend $200+ on something that I am going to hate. I'm used to CRTs, and I hate dead pixels. I also want something with decent color. I do play games, so ghosting is not good. I also like the fact that it supports HDCP. Anyone have any experience with this monitor?

Hi, I'm currently own one. I bought it from newegg 3 months ago. In fact, I'm very happy with it. I replaced it for an old Dell CRT. I used to think CRT monitor has the best and sharp pictures than LCD. That's right, until I got the Sceptre 20' Gamer. Remember the 5ms it has, that or lower will make you happy playing video games like I do. Picture quality is great (unlike many other LCD monitors which I've worked with). The one thing I didn't like and never used is that built-in speakers lol. Well they worked, but just...not as quality as I expected. But that's not important to me since I've decided getting the monitor for different aspects and got my own (better) speakers . Anyway, I got it for $219. So right now the price dropped a little more. Anyway, good hunting!

PS: I've just noticed we have a few common things in our system specs. hehe

 

[x800professor]

dell uses Benq to produce their monotors, my advice is check out benq, many/most times u can find the benq branded cheaper then the dell.

and responce time means very little, because theres no set way to caculate it, my dell (benq) 2001fp is rated at 16ms, but dosnt ghost at all, and is VERY vivid, also has a nice dotpitch, one of the few LCD's i have liked, im more a CRT fan really, i loved my old hitchi 22in prof display, to bad it got smoked(overload blew the mode switch when i wasnt around, it clicked on and off till some parts acctualy caught fire inside......)

and i have setup a few people with Scepter branded monotors, no problems or complaints, the one time i thought one had a dead pixel it didnt, just one was stuck, they said to push on it gently 5 times, 2nd push it was fixed, hasnt given her any trouble since.

if you want a cheap high end CRT try www.merkortech.com (thank ashen for that hes the one who got me hooked on their monotors) i got a 21in IBM dvi-d+vga+svideo+composit video monotor for 145bucks shiped, wish i hadnt sold it, would be good for dual display with this lcd

Response time can be rather annoying, especially when you factor in overdrive, which I hate. I have seen merkortech, but never saw anything I liked. They have my P1220, but it cost over $200 when I was there. No one seems to make good CRTs anymore. All I can find are little 17" shadow mask crap CRTs. I don't want to spend over $200 on a used monitor. I keep thinking about that sceptre, but I can't make up my mind.