Aorus X570 Master

[Chomiq]

Yeah, I would stay away from early betas (a,b,c...)
And to be honest, if the system is solid already I would go only for final versions

Yup, stick to stable release unless you're hoping to fix specific issue.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Also, some recent GB BIOSes have "improve USB 2.0 hub stability" in their patch notes, so they've definitely tried to address it.

GenesysLogic POS component that costs 10 cents, instead of a decent USB 2.0 hub that would've cost them 25 cents...

 

[jesdals]

Yeah, I would stay away from early betas (a,b,c...)
And to be honest, if the system is solid already I would go only for final versions

Well then theres the 2000MHz Infinity thing but hope that the Chineese new year will bring better revisions

 

[Calmmo]

Trying out F33c @1900

 

[jesdals]

Trying out F33c @1900

Hope that F33c is more stable, F33a was not stable for me - would like the boost but also better stability

 

[juanyunis]

@jesdals so far F33c is looking like a winner for me. I still get whea errors when doing over 1900 FCLK. But everything else seems very nice. Even the USB issue (mouse stuttering for me) has been way better.

 

[jesdals]

Jumped on the band waggon to

Did a disk test because of late WD850N debate on x570 chipset

Seems to be the same

My Gigabyte 2TB arous gen4 disk seems to behave the same to

And the Corsair MP600 1TB as well

CPUz performance is more or less the same with same"ish" settings

Unfortunately it seems that WHEAs still is an issue

Did a Cinebech run without errors

Will do some more testing
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After some windows runtime - theres no WHEAs but it might be caused by graphics

 

[juanyunis]

@jesdals and I thought I had an overkill pc, yours even more Lol. I also have 3 nvme, but just 2 of them are Gen 4.

1. Silicon Power 1TB Gen 4 (OS)
2. Corsair MP600 2TB Gen 4 (Games)
3. Seagate Barracuda 2TB Gen 3 (Data)

 

[TheLostSwede]

Jumped on the band waggon to

Did a disk test because of late WD850N debate on x570 chipset
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Seems to be the same
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My Gigabyte 2TB arous gen4 disk seems to behave the same to
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And the Corsair MP600 1TB as well

CPUz performance is more or less the same with same"ish" settings
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Unfortunately it seems that WHEAs still is an issue
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Did a Cinebech run without errors
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Will do some more testing

That whole SSD thing is some kind of glitch. I had it on a PCIe 3.0 drive, but I can't remember what I did to fix it, which is really frustrating now.
Regardless, it's not a hardware issue, it's a setting or some kind of software related issue.

 

[jesdals]

That whole SSD thing is some kind of glitch. I had it on a PCIe 3.0 drive, but I can't remember what I did to fix it, which is really frustrating now.
Regardless, it's not a hardware issue, it's a setting or some kind of software related issue.

I think it might be a windows version issue and a AMD chipset thing. I had the same kind of issue shortly before upgradeing to 2004 version of windows pro and AMDs latest chipset driver at that point.

 

[tabascosauz]

Unfortunately it seems that WHEAs still is an issue
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Did a Cinebech run without errors

Will do some more testing
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After some windows runtime - theres no WHEAs but it might be caused by graphics

Looks like another dreaded Bus/Interconnect. Always pisses me off that you can't reliably lure the Bus/Interconnects out of the woodwork with any kind of stress test, they just show up whenever they please.

Can you try cutting down either your VDDG IOD or VDDG CCD? I can't remember which one I reduced to 0.9V but with VDDP and one of those VDDGs at 0.9V I went the last few weeks without a single WHEA on my cancerous 3700X. I'm leaning towards 1.05V IOD and 0.9V CCD @ 1.1V VSOC, but I can't remember, it may well have been the other way around between the 2 VDDGs. Or actually I might have set all three to 0.9V, can't remember.

No issues on my 5900X but that could just be an indication that it doesn't have cancer like my 3700X and can actually handle 3600 like a normal frickin CPU.

 

[jesdals]

Looks like another dreaded Bus/Interconnect. Always pisses me off that you can't reliably lure the Bus/Interconnects out of the woodwork with any kind of stress test, they just show up whenever they please.

Can you try cutting down either your VDDG IOD or VDDG CCD? I can't remember which one I reduced to 0.9V but with VDDP and one of those VDDGs at 0.9V I went the last few weeks without a single WHEA on my cancerous 3700X. I'm leaning towards 1.05V IOD and 0.9V CCD @ 1.1V VSOC, but I can't remember, it may well have been the other way around between the 2 VDDGs. Or actually I might have set all three to 0.9V, can't remember.

No issues on my 5900X but that could just be an indication that it doesn't have cancer like my 3700X and can actually handle 3600 like a normal frickin CPU.

I actually run them at 0.950 and vsoc at 1050 - it does seems that the 5xxx like to run lower than 3xxx serie, at least compared with my 3800x and 5950x

 

[Calmmo]

Chickenclocking the IF, 1933

Hasn't spat any errors so far (30mins).. fingers crossed

edit welp jinxed it, it is now

 

[jesdals]

1933Mhz is not stable on mine - gave a lot of WHEAs and crashed my game in Division 2

Funny thing in Division 2 - there was a lot of strange artifacts in the graphics but not on a in game printscreen - never noticed that before, but the image beneath had a lot of god rays comeing from the sky

But the print screen dosent show them - game crashed shortly after and the 20 WHEAS was from playing.

Going to stick to 1900MHz for now - but will try to get above stable later

 

[Divide Overflow]

Gigabyte seems to have stalled out on AGESA ComboV2 1.2.0.0 development at F33c betas.

 

[Chomiq]

F33e

1. Update AMD AGESA ComboV2 1.2.0.1
2. Improve L3 cache performance on Ryzen 5000 series processors
3. Improve USB 2.0 devices stability and compatibility

 

[jesdals]

F33f released on website today - all core boost seems lower with same settings as F33c. Will do some Infinity testing later.

Seems stable and I have lowered my voltage on memory to 1.5 from 1.52. Boost is a bit lower on all cores though

 

[abulkasam]

Hi,

Doing my first build for a while:
Just bought this motherboard. (X570 Aorus Master). The rev 1.2 version is what came in the box.
I am trying to work out what would be the optimal speed of RAM to purchase for 5000 series Ryzen CPU (Ryzen 7).
On the Gigabyte website it states:

1. AMD Ryzen™ 5000 series processors:
   Support for DDR4 5100(O.C.) / 5000(O.C.) / 4866(O.C.) / 4600(O.C.)/ 4400(O.C.) / 4300(O.C.) / 4266(O.C.) / 4133(O.C.) / 4000(O.C.) / 3866(O.C.) / 3800(O.C.) / 3733(O.C.) / 3600(O.C.) / 3466(O.C.) / 3400(O.C.) / 3333(O.C.) / 3300(O.C.) / 3200 / 2933 / 2667 / 2400 / 2133 MHz memory modules

Based on the above, what speed should I go with? 4000 or 3600 or 3200? or other?

I read on a couple of guides that for example, 4000 may be optimal when paired with 5000 series CPU.

Where it is only OC e.g. 4000, 3600, what does this exactly mean when compared to where it not OC e.g. 3200. In terms of specific set up? I am not yet familiar with the bios to know yet.
What would happen if I buy ram rated at 3600 or 4000 and i dont overclock for example?

Do you recommend any specific RAM or ram combination? Any help appreciated. Thanks.

 

[Zach_01]

AMD's official support is 3200MHz. But you could run at least 3600MHz without much effort. Just Enable XMP profile. Assuming the sticks are fully compatible with the setup (board+CPU).
If its Corsair LPX, stick with Z line (i.e. CMKxxxxxxxZ3x00C16).

For not spending a fortune on RAM a 3600MHz CL16 kit (any brand) would be nice. Most probably it would be CL-16-18-18-18-36 or CL-16-19-19-19-38 for not beeing too expensive. Going for CL-16-16-16-16-36 would be much much more expensive.
Of course 5000 series can potentially run RAM up until 3800MHz or even 4000MHz(rarely). You can always try to run a 3600MHz kit to 3800+ like many do.

IMHO a 3600MHz CL16 is a balanced RAM speed. With nice bandwidth and decent latency. Anything above that has minimum performance gain for the price. Actual performance and not just AIDA64 scores.

Are you considering for 16 or 32GBs? If the latter then go for 2x16GB (dual rank sticks) than 4x8GB (single rank sticks).

 

[Chomiq]

F33e (for Elite) was pulled from GB site, looks like new (beta) BIOS is coming soon.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Hi,

Doing my first build for a while:
Just bought this motherboard. (X570 Aorus Master). The rev 1.2 version is what came in the box.
I am trying to work out what would be the optimal speed of RAM to purchase for 5000 series Ryzen CPU (Ryzen 7).
On the Gigabyte website it states:

1. AMD Ryzen™ 5000 series processors:
   Support for DDR4 5100(O.C.) / 5000(O.C.) / 4866(O.C.) / 4600(O.C.)/ 4400(O.C.) / 4300(O.C.) / 4266(O.C.) / 4133(O.C.) / 4000(O.C.) / 3866(O.C.) / 3800(O.C.) / 3733(O.C.) / 3600(O.C.) / 3466(O.C.) / 3400(O.C.) / 3333(O.C.) / 3300(O.C.) / 3200 / 2933 / 2667 / 2400 / 2133 MHz memory modules

Based on the above, what speed should I go with? 4000 or 3600 or 3200? or other?

I read on a couple of guides that for example, 4000 may be optimal when paired with 5000 series CPU.

Where it is only OC e.g. 4000, 3600, what does this exactly mean when compared to where it not OC e.g. 3200. In terms of specific set up? I am not yet familiar with the bios to know yet.
What would happen if I buy ram rated at 3600 or 4000 and i dont overclock for example?

Do you recommend any specific RAM or ram combination? Any help appreciated. Thanks.

How much RAM are you planning on getting?
As pointed out above, there are a few different ways of doing things.

Anything over 4000MHz isn't worth it, as you're going to end up running the ram at a 1:2 ratio with the IF, which means much higher memory latency.
I've been running four sticks of 3600MHz Patriot Viper Steel for over a year now at 3800MHz with tightened timings. Their modules at 4000MHz+ should all be Samsung B-die, whereas their "slower" modules uses Hynix CJR.
If you're going with two 16GB modules, it seems that the latest chips from Micron are recommended, but I have no personal experience with them.

4000MHz is hardly optimal, that is as high as you're going to get and not all CPUs will be able to do it. The 5000-series should be capable of 3800MHz though, whereas not all 3000-series chips could do it.

Maybe have a look what's available to you locally and then let us know what fits your budget from that?

 

[Chomiq]

F33e (for Elite) was pulled from GB site, looks like new (beta) BIOS is coming soon.

1. Update AMD AGESA ComboV2 1.2.0.1 PatchA
2. Fix L3 cache performance on Ryzen 5000 series processors
3. Fix USB 2.0 devices stability and compatibility

 

[Calmmo]

Well can i definitely say that my one usb issue with crackling headphone audio via the usb Scarlett is now fixed after applying 33h. (was forced into using onboard realtek since upgrading from 3900x to 5900x)
Tho I did run into a weird issue where my bios would always fail posting with my profile after tweaking some very specific sys1 fan curve and saving that into my regular profile, went and edited them again to something different and.. it works again with my undervolt curve+1900IF/3800CL16 settings

 

[tabascosauz]

Well can i definitely say that my one usb issue with crackling headphone audio via the usb Scarlett is now fixed after applying 33h. (was forced into using onboard realtek since upgrading from 3900x to 5900x)
Tho I did run into a weird issue where my bios would always fail posting with my profile after tweaking some very specific sys1 fan curve and saving that into my regular profile, went and edited them again to something different and.. it works again with my undervolt curve+1900IF/3800CL16 settings

I'll have to give the beta BIOS a try on my Asus then. I can't use the Focusrite drivers for my Scarlett because it pops and crackles like it's possessed. I've been resorting to using the Windows drivers and though they are much better they still give a little pop once in a blue moon, especially when UAC prompts pop up. Interestingly enough there was no change in behaviour for me upgrading from the 3700X to 5900X on the same board.

Or maybe I'll wait for the stable 1202 BIOS, I don't think they're making a release bios for 1201 for either of my boards

 

[abulkasam]

AMD's official support is 3200MHz. But you could run at least 3600MHz without much effort. Just Enable XMP profile. Assuming the sticks are fully compatible with the setup (board+CPU).
If its Corsair LPX, stick with Z line (i.e. CMKxxxxxxxZ3x00C16).

For not spending a fortune on RAM a 3600MHz CL16 kit (any brand) would be nice. Most probably it would be CL-16-18-18-18-36 or CL-16-19-19-19-38 for not beeing too expensive. Going for CL-16-16-16-16-36 would be much much more expensive.
Of course 5000 series can potentially run RAM up until 3800MHz or even 4000MHz(rarely). You can always try to run a 3600MHz kit to 3800+ like many do.

IMHO a 3600MHz CL16 is a balanced RAM speed. With nice bandwidth and decent latency. Anything above that has minimum performance gain for the price. Actual performance and not just AIDA64 scores.

Are you considering for 16 or 32GBs? If the latter then go for 2x16GB (dual rank sticks) than 4x8GB (single rank sticks).

Thanks for the input. I went on Corsair compatibility guide.

They have this one as an example: https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categ.../Vengeance-PRO-RGB-Black/p/CMW32GX4M2D3600C18
Which has a D and not Z.

I went online here in UK and found Currys sell the Z line:

CORSAIR Vengeance Pro RGB DDR4 3600 MHz PC RAM - 16 GB x 2

CMW32GX4M2Z3600C18; DIMM; 3600 MHz frequency; Voltage: 1.35 V; CL 18; 18-22-22-42; VR Ready

www.currys.co.uk

CMW32GX4M2Z3600C18

My only concern here is about compatibilty - if I read the Gigabyte site - the 3600 line is not on there.
But corsair only lists the D as compatible - so unclear if I can go with Z - in some places, Z is suggested as simply AMD specific - so it suggests to me that it would be compatible?

Any thoughts, on the Currys website version being compatible?