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Asus p8z77-V-Win 10-42GB's of DEAD DDR3!

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Hi all,
2nd post, I joined for an answer to this one....Its a little complicated but here goes. I have an Asus P8Z77-V in my main PC, its an Ivy Bride board with an i5 3570k in it. It's been super stable and reliable for years and still is very competitive performance-wise.
Just before Christmas I decided to upgrade to Windows 10. It was a totally fresh install on a new SSD.

I went to the Asus web site here: https://www.asus.com/uk/supportonly/P8Z77-V/HelpDesk_Download/

I loaded up the chipset drivers:
Version 11.0.0.1155 Beta Version
2015/09/23 61.22 MBytes
Intel Management Engine Interface V11.0.0.1155 for Windows 10 32bit & 64bit.
"This Windows 10 driver will not be digitally signed which means that it will not have been tested by Microsoft Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL). Note that Windows will alert you with a message if a driver is not digitally signed but you can continue the installation."

Not signed......

Then, as I was looking for that Asus TuneUp software, I wanted to run it to give my CPU a boost...I installed this:
Version 2.00.01
2012/09/13 173.92 MBytes

ASUS AI Suite II V2.00.01 Install Program for Windows XP/7/8 32bit & 64bit.
ASUS Ai Charger+ V2.00.00 for Windows XP/7/8 32bit & 64bit.
ASUS Update V1.04.07 for Windows XP/7/8 32bit & 64bit.
ASUS DIGI+ Power Control V1.00.37 for Windows XP/7/8 32bit & 64bit.
ASUS EPU V1.03.22 for Windows XP/7/8 32bit & 64bit.
ASUS FAN Xpert 2 V1.00.18 for Windows XP/7/8 32bit & 64bit.
ASUS GPU Boost V1.01.05 for Windows XP/7/8 32bit & 64bit.
ASUS My Logo V1.03.06 for Windows XP/7/8 32bit & 64bit.
ASUS Network iControl V1.03.09 for Windows 7/8 32bit & 64bit.
ASUS Probe II V1.00.51 for Windows XP/7/8 32bit & 64bit.
ASUS System Information V1.02.15 for Windows XP/7/8 32bit & 64bit.
ASUS TurboV EVO V1.01.43 for Windows XP/7/8 32bit & 64bit.
ASUS USB 3.0 Boost V1.02.13 for Windows XP/7 32bit & 64bit.
ASUS USB BIOS Flashback V1.00.06 for Windows XP/7/8 32bit & 64bit.
ASUS USB Charger+ V1.00.13 for Windows XP/7/8 32bit & 64bit.
ASUS Wi-Fi Engine V1.01.03 for Windows 7/8 32bit & 64bit.
ASUS Wi-Fi GO! V1.02.07 for Windows 7/8 32bit & 64bit.
ASUS Wi-Fi GO! Remote V1.1.09 for Android.

HOWEVER, this software pack is hidden if you have Windows10x64 selected, it only shows if you pick Windows 7 x64 as your OS type.

So I thought, well what could possible go wrong, it will be fine to run old software on Windows 10.....Well it would seem I was very wrong.

I ran the auto tuning thing, off it went...your system will now re-boot....but it didn't!!!

All is got were the RAM and the CPU error LED's on the board flashing at me.
I bought another identical board with an installed CPU and more RAM, that worked, off I went again, until the next reboot. I got the same thing, no boot flashing red LED's..

This is getting silly now....I bought more RAM, they work, both boards are fine, both CPU are fine, but 42GB's of ram stick are now colourful ice scrapers.

What on earth happened to my RAM chips??????

I tried them in another board entirely and it failed to boot as well.

When the PC's try to boot they power up for a second then power down again, over and over again, like there is an over current in the RAM? A short in the chips causing high current flow? Blown over-volted RAM chips?

Any ideas people?
 
Try it in another motherboard and CPU with 100% working IMC.

How is it possible that you have 42GB? Is it 12GB x2? It doesn't divide to four, if you have a mixed setup, that's a big no.

Also its better off not to use OS botherboard tweaking or overclocking utilities. Just from the BIOS, and with some stress testing afterwards.
 
Regeneration said:
Try it in another motherboard and CPU with 100% working IMC.

How is it possible that you have 42GB? Is it 12GB x2? It doesn't divide to four, if you have a mixed setup, that's a big no.

Also its better off not to use OS botherboard tweaking or overclocking utilities. Just from the BIOS, and with some stress testing afterwards.
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Yes I have tried them in two mobo's dead dead and I had 42GB because I had 4 sticks of 8GB's, then in the "new" board, another 8GB (2x4GB) toasted so errr maths isn't my strong point, I am numblexic. 40GB's well spotted anyway.
 
I have a P8Z77-V.. not the same problems as what you have though, it didn’t kill my ram. But it won’t see any hdd or ssd on any of the sata ports. Mine died last year.
 
Advice to not use decade-old overclocking utilities with modern operating systems checks out... especially those developed for an older OS than the one you are currently attempting to run. Ensure that you aren't running a mixed RAM setup and that your CPU is socketed correctly from the last time you performed maintenance on your PC, there might be a speck of dust or a drop of TIM somewhere in the socket and that is enough to cause a memory malfunction as well. Double and triple check all that.

Anyway, while it might meet your needs, I would really think twice before calling an i5-3570K competitive with any current-generation processor, especially after all of the microcode security fixes that bog it down even harder nowadays. I'm fairly sure that even a modern dual-core processor like the Celeron G6900 (Alder Lake variant with 2 Golden Cove P-cores) would beat it in almost if not every game at this point :D

It's a decade old platform, mate. If you have used that board as your daily driver throughout the past decade, time might be coming to accept its fate and start preparing to move onto greener pastures, but don't worry about it too much. Even entry-level budget hardware would give an Ivy Bridge-class i5 a spanking of a lifetime nowadays.
 
ya dont need a boost from software ya can do it in bios easy as 3570?3770K would all do like 600mhz()minimum overclock without a sweat.
 
I do think this is a good example of why old hardware and modern drivers might be a bad idea, I bet it was something like a table of data and the decimal point was moved so instead of 1.35v it went to 13.5...POP!

Still this should not have happened...this is serious damage here. Damn you Microsoft!

When it happened I thought better start looking for a new PC, then I realised I really didn't know much about the new hardware that you can get now. I really haven't been that interested in it as this old workhorse soldiers on. However I was starting to think about getting a new PC, a lot of things don't work on Win7 any more.
I used to be quite ippressed with my mates PC he had a few years ago, he used to ask me how many frames I was getting in Arma, I would say 35-40 and he would go 90 eh hehehehe

It was time for an upgrade back then.

So after a thousand unboxing videos and reviews I have a pretty good idea of what's available now. I will be posting about what I was thinking about getting on here soon. This is a good forum already.
 
I consider all of the Asus AI software suite bloatware. I quit using it years ago. I retired my P8Z77-V Deluxe/ 3770K a few years ago. I had it at 4.7GHz it's entire time in use by simply overclocking it in BIOS. It ran 10 Enterprise 64 from the preview build through 1809 without a hiccup. Even with the later Asus AI Suite offerings for Win 10 on more modern platforms they've done updates and patches on them.

Whatever happened isn't the fault of Microsoft or Asus. Most of us here have blown things up, that's how we learned what not to do again. Time to move on into the present.
 
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