Bad performance/Usage spikes with R9 290 Tri-X CF.

mull54 · Aug 4, 2014

I bought 2 R9 290 Tri-X recently and i have low FPS in games like Crysis 3 and BF4. In crysis i have somewhere between 35-90 fps and in BF4 i have around 50-60 on Ultra, 1080P. I have noticed some serious GPU usages spikes in those games.

I have turned off ULPS, tried in windows mode, the temps are good and the benchmarks "seems" okey.

Do you guys have any clue what the problem might be?

vega22 · Aug 4, 2014

games on the ssd or spinner?

Durvelle27 · Aug 4, 2014

50-60 Ultra at 1080P seems very low for BF4

mull54 · Aug 4, 2014

Durvelle27 said:
50-60 Ultra at 1080P seems very low for BF4

Yeah it's really low.

marsey99 said:
games on the ssd or spinner?

On the HDD, but with my 6950CF i had it on the HDD aswell and no problem.

mull54 · Aug 4, 2014

I ran the same settings as anandtech did in there bench. They got 77 with one card. I got 60 with 2. Something is wrong.

Durvelle27 · Aug 4, 2014

mull54 said:
I ran the same settings as anandtech did in there bench. They got 77 with one card. I got 60 with 2. Something is wrong.

what are temps for both cards and is anything OC'd

mull54 · Aug 4, 2014

Durvelle27 said:
what are temps for both cards and is anything OC'd

Maximum of 75C on the hottest card. And no stock clock 1GHZ.

OneMoar · Aug 4, 2014

welcome to the world of crossfire
pray that AMD fixes there drivers or simply disable Xfire are your options

mull54 · Aug 4, 2014

OneMoar said:
welcome to the world of crossfire
pray that AMD fixes there drivers or simply disable Xfire are your options

Haha thank's. I would be happy if it was just CF problems. This feels like something else is wrong. Anandtech said i should get 77FPS(with 1 card) on Crysis 3 with a specific setting. I got 30 with one.

OneMoar · Aug 4, 2014

mull54 said:
Haha thank's. I would be happy if it was just CF problems. This feels like something else is wrong. Anandtech said i should get 77FPS(with 1 card) on Crysis 3 with a specific setting. I got 30 with one.

might not be throttling up all the way install msi afterburner and lock it to max nominal clocks and see what happens

mull54 · Aug 4, 2014

OneMoar said:
might not be throttling up all the way install msi afterburner and lock it to max nominal clocks and see what happens

It says they are running at 1000Mhz when am playing. Don't know what the problem is.

GhostRyder · Aug 4, 2014

mull54 said:
Haha thank's. I would be happy if it was just CF problems. This feels like something else is wrong. Anandtech said i should get 77FPS(with 1 card) on Crysis 3 with a specific setting. I got 30 with one.

That is not likely the cause, there are no issues with crossfire in those games as I play both on 3 290X cards with way better FPS (1 card on 1080p stays at 60FPS pretty constant) which likely leads to believe something else is the cause.

Odd that your getting usage spikes, are you using full screen mode or windowed?

You maybe hitting a bottleneck somewhere else or having an issue with a certain feature. I know for a fact many people report problems on i7 processor in BF4 with Hyper Threading enabled so you might want to look into that.

On the Crysis 3 note, that game has always been odd when running on any system and changes constantly. Sadly its not well optimized even on the most powerful rigs.

Ferrum Master · Aug 4, 2014

First thing... did you nuke the OS? Are CFX really active, full load on each card...

the dumb question... is v sync off? No pun intended.

mull54 · Aug 4, 2014

Ferrum Master said:
First thing... did you nuke the OS? Are CFX really active, full load on each card...

the dumb question... is v sync off? No pun intended.

Nuke the OS?

But yeah CF is active. But no, i don't get full load on both the cards. Massive usage spikes.

newconroer · Aug 4, 2014

OneMoar said:
might not be throttling up all the way install msi afterburner and lock it to max nominal clocks and see what happens

I'm certain that it's not downclocking due to Crossfire - only from personal experience I've seen that as soon as you add a second card, they no longer use dynamic clocks/boost.

Downclocking would happen if there was a problem e.g. heat.

vega22 · Aug 4, 2014

mull54 said:
On the HDD, but with my 6950CF i had it on the HDD aswell and no problem.

the way they do xfire now puts more stress on the mobo which could be causing the hold ups which is why you are seeing dips in fps.

i would throw bf4 on the ssd and see if it helps any.

mull54 said:
I ran the same settings as anandtech did in there bench. They got 77 with one card. I got 60 with 2. Something is wrong.

as your system is not the same as their testbench, you will see differences in results. you can only use charts like those as comparisons for other hardware in the same machine. not use them to say what your machine will get.

also what does just 1 card get?

Wrigleyvillain · Aug 4, 2014

Yes it sounds like crossfire's simply not working. I get 50-70 in BF4 at 1440P with one 290X. Keep troubleshooting it. I assume you are running full screen.

Durvelle27 · Aug 4, 2014

which slots are you using

mull54 · Aug 4, 2014

marsey99 said:
the way they do xfire now puts more stress on the mobo which could be causing the hold ups which is why you are seeing dips in fps.

i would throw bf4 on the ssd and see if it helps any.

as your system is not the same as their testbench, you will see differences in results. you can only use charts like those as comparisons for other hardware in the same machine. not use them to say what your machine will get.

also what does just 1 card get?

Around 30-40 FPS and two card get between 40-60 FPS. When i play at window mode. 1 card seem to work at 100% but still 30-40FPS.

Wrigleyvillain said:
Yes it sounds like crossfire's simply not working. I get 50-70 in BF4 at 1440P with one 290X. Keep troubleshooting it. I assume you are running full screen.

Yes i am.

Durvelle27 said:
which slots are you using

The two blue slots. They are PCI-E 16X i think.

GhostRyder · Aug 4, 2014

mull54 said:
Around 30-40 FPS and two card get between 40-60 FPS. When i play at window mode. 1 card seem to work at 100% but still 30-40FPS.

Ok so then your getting some interesting FPS, like I said before I would check your processor on this one especially considering your running at stock. BF4 has issues running Hyper Threading on the i7's which has cause poor performance issues. Also you might try enabling Mantle and see if that helps (Or Vice Versa).

mull54 said:
Yes i am.

Ok well that knocks that out of the picture.

mull54 said:
The two blue slots. They are PCI-E 16X i think.

Running two cards with that board would be at 8X which is more than fine so thats not the problem unless your board is running them at 4x or something. You can check that in CCC when checking hardware.

mull54 · Aug 4, 2014

GhostRyder said:
Ok so then your getting some interesting FPS, like I said before I would check your processor on this one especially considering your running at stock. BF4 has issues running Hyper Threading on the i7's which has cause poor performance issues. Also you might try enabling Mantle and see if that helps (Or Vice Versa).

Ok well that knocks that out of the picture.
Running two cards with that board would be at 8X which is more than fine so thats not the problem unless your board is running them at 4x or something. You can check that in CCC when checking hardware.

Yeah it was 8X. So that's not the problem either. I saw that the CPU usage was around 60-90% on all cores on Crysis 3.

I got 38FPS Avg in some places when playing Crysis 3 in fullscreen. That's worse than my 6950CF.

GhostRyder · Aug 4, 2014

mull54 said:
Yeah it was 8X. So that's not the problem either. I saw that the CPU usage was around 60-90% on all cores on Crysis 3.

I got 38FPS Avg in some places when playing Crysis 3 in fullscreen. That's worse than my 6950CF.

Well something has to be a miss here... I get above that running at 4k reolution so something is not right...

Might I inquire what driver version your using?

You should be getting averages much closer to this area...

mull54 · Aug 4, 2014

GhostRyder said:
Well something has to be a miss here... I get above that running at 4k reolution so something is not right...

Might I inquire what driver version your using?

You should be getting averages much closer to this area...

Just my thinking. I was using 14.4 and today i installed 14.7 beta. Got the same result.

douglatins · Aug 4, 2014

dem heatz

broken pixel · Aug 4, 2014

What driver do you have installed? Do you use vsync? I have two 290x GPUs and run 1440p on 2x ultra settings vsync at 100Hz and get a pretty steady 100 fps with the 14.4 drivers.

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