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Temjin Trifecta! :roll:

(not my pics below)

The TJ08-E Titanium won't arrive until Wednesday. Thanks for the tip Sexpotbro, should be an amazing little chassis to build into. :D
y'all lucky bums, my case doesn't arrive until next Wednesday, something about transit time between Michigan and BC

I started testing stock Ryzen 3000 boost settings again, this time with a -0.075V offset, and what a difference it makes. I think my M1 is feeling the impending threat of the TJ08 and wants to draw my attention to itself for as long as possible :p
 
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^Yup, my old x99 topped out at 3400MHz C14. It required a lot of tuning the SA / IO voltages to get HCI Memtest stable at 1000% coverage. Raising those voltages too high definitely effects the CPU temps as well as the Input voltage. Ahh miss the days of quad channel ram overclocking. Was so satisfying once you get it to consistently train and have not the IO / RTL's drift between warm and cold boots.
Sounds like you had fun, I definitely need faster ram currently running it at 2666 14-16-16-35 2T @ 1.33v so nothing special, just crap micron A die. Gotta say pushing RAM made everything just feel more fluid for some reason, and turns seem faster on Civ 6.
 
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Non computer related, but my washing machine decided to take a dump and the drum barrel cracked during a wash cycle. It was a frantic mess to clean and remove the unit to recycling. Our weekend adventure was to go shop for a new set which will be delivered at the end of this week. Just in time if I may add!

Project sidekick Robin will unfortunately need to take a back seat and on hold for a little bit. :rolleyes:

My flooring took a hit and buckled up a bit but most of the water is dried. I didn't receive any complaints from the neighbors downstairs over the weekend so I talked to the owner tonight and he'll let me know if he spots any water on the ceiling. :)

Out with the old and damaged! (Disclaimer - not actual pic. In my rage of disposal I didn't bother to take a picture. It's the exact same model, 22 years old original to my apartment)


Water damaged flooring which will need to be replaced :(


Laundry closet cleaned up and ready for the new set!


My little pupper doing his best to inspect and tell me everything will be alright.
 
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TJ08-E Titanium just arrived! :clap:

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Nice! How is the finish on it? Does it match with the Gunmetal from CL? Also, that Aida latency score is nuts, I haven't seen 20ns before. :eek:
 
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Nice! How is the finish on it? Does it match with the Gunmetal from CL? Also, that Aida latency score is nuts, I haven't seen 20ns before. :eek:
Haven't opened the box yet, not certain we are keeping the TJ08, gf found another Silverstone inverted she likes better for the new house family room. :rolleyes:


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Whoa it's like the TJ08 on roids, dual 180mm AP fan?!! Thinking about putting the second z390 Dark in the MM01? ;)
 
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Whoa it's like the TJ08 on roids, dual 180mm AP fan?!! Thinking about putting the second z390 Dark in the MM01? ;)
Hemorrhoids? :roll:

1st (RMA'd) Z390 Dark stopped working. Not sure if I can fix it. EVGA sent it back yet didn't charge us so I'll see what I can do. If not fixable - will look very nice on the motherboard wall in the new office. :)

That Silverstone Mammoth MM01 would actually look very nice on the left side of my working position along with a custom cut glass side panel - still extremely impractical and lacks all the amazing efficiencies of the Batman build, it wouldn't be inaudible or even comfortable or thermally efficient, every component would run much warmer even if I pulled out the silly HEPA filter :kookoo: from the front intake.

Anyhoo, I'm thinking more of moving my all gunmetal CL test bench (not the Batman CL testbench, I have two) to another table in the new office space just for working on and testing parts, and picking up a 4U server chassis for the 2ndary research rig since my current APC UPS is server length/width and ready to mount into a rack.

Someone out there certainly produces a short desktop server rack frame capable of mounting 2 or 3 components I can reach from my work desk. :)

I just need to find it.

...something like this 4U server case below. Inexpensive like $125 and I can move into the inaudible range easily with (2) very lightweight 80mm industrial fans from Blacknoise Germany - noise energy isolated - to create a nice PULL of cold air through the chassis front to rear, and I'll use my 2year old Seasonic 600watt fanless PSU, this 4U case below supports standard ATX power supplies. Should be awesome with a 2.5in Supermicro hotswap SSD mobile rack mounted in the right hand accessory bay.


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Here's a short tabletop server rack about 10U overall capacity (pic below) that would work out ok since my APC UPS is 2U rack mountable and the server case above is 4U. Leaving room for one more component and some airflow.

Sorry gents, the Temjin TJ08 will need to be returned to Amazon tomorrow unopened. :oops:

It's an amazing little case that's for certain, but for a home office I really should stay with E-ATX form factors so I can directly pass down components from previous builds and industrial server type cases just blend so well aesthetically with all my current components along with offering so many more configuration possibilities and modifications maybe at an even a greater level than the CL open bench.

This server rack below with or without wheels is what I have in mind to position to my left on top of my computer tables, while the Batman primary rig always sits to the right.

I'll mount the 2ndary research rig (Maximus X Apex and 8700K@5.2Ghz Trident Z 3200/14 kit Noctua C14S Seasonic 600w fanless) and the APC SRT1000RMXLA SmartUps Online into this short server frame, should look great when filled with components. :)

2nd pic, what my APC 1000VA UPS looks like. Will need to purchase the rack mounts then I can move the extremely tall and heavy unit OFF the floor. :oops:

Last pic, the APC UPS unit is just too darn tall for the desktop in tower configuration, eclipses any view of hardware, it's an absolute monolith that needs to be reconfigured to the horizontal - mounted in a nice server rack. :)

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Your office is going to be a hybrid server closet meets silent pc computing. Oh~ the inaudible beauty!

And now the three Temjineers has become two. :slap:
 
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Case CaseLabs Mercury S8 open bench frame two-tone black front cover with gunmetal chassis
Audio Device(s) Creative $25 2.1 speakers lol
Power Supply Seasonic Prime Titanium 850watt / Seasonic Prime Titanium 700watt Fanless (Arriving November 2019)
Mouse Logitech MX Master 2S dark midnight teal blue wireless
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Your office is going to be a hybrid server closet meets silent pc computing. Oh~ the inaudible beauty!

And now the three Temjineers has become two. :slap:
I sowwy, I let you guys down. :cry::cry::cry:

Would've been a blast building (3) Temjins all together.
 
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I sowwy, I let you guys down. :cry::cry::cry:

Would've been a blast building (3) Temjins all together.
Dammit!

But to tell the truth, I can't say I know what to do with this build either. Aside from running the TV and loaning it to my father to help him diagnose some performance issues with his office PC, this wasn't the most "necessary" purchase I've made...

One thing is for sure, though. I've been longing to get a TJ08 for years, and I sure as hell wasn't going to pay more than double the money for a mATX case with inferior build quality and materials compared to the M1 (Chimera Cerberus). Cerberus has ridiculously long I/O cables, the options drive the price even higher, and can't support even a U12A, so the TJ08 is a win in those regards.
 
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Your office is going to be a hybrid server closet meets silent pc computing. Oh~ the inaudible beauty!

And now the three Temjineers has become two. :slap:
I think you meant to say - oh the inaudible paradox.

Since server racks/rooms are normally extremely noisy. :laugh:

Found an ideal 9U desktop rack with rails. Adjustable depth, that's cool I only need 22.5inches for my relatively short components. Not sure just how the rail system works just yet. :confused: Have to figure that one out.

Nice little compact unit with 3U of spare capacity for airflow or another component.

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Case CaseLabs Mercury S8 open bench frame two-tone black front cover with gunmetal chassis
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Power Supply Seasonic Prime Titanium 850watt / Seasonic Prime Titanium 700watt Fanless (Arriving November 2019)
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The new office is going to be amazing, lots of windows, small kitchen and bathroom on one end, double bed for undisturbed napping and the best part of all, I'll finally get that screen door installed that allows me to stay in touch with the rest of the house, yet keeps out felines, and blue mini-rex bunnies and their fur out of the computer gear, and also child-proof unless supervised.

My lovely home office screen door - just like Kramer. :D

 
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The fan reference a few posts back, the Blacknoise Industrial fans from Germany. Way back 2016, when I was still moving enclosures with top and side panels (standard cases) into the inaudible range, I searched for a fan much lighter in mass (therefore easier to isolate) than the Sanyo Denki Industrials which can be a bit on the heavy side. The Blacknoise Industrial Series are ideal for that purpose. Same company that produces the NoiseBlocker eLoops which were/are so popular with enthusiasts.

Have a few 120x25mm and 120x38mm (SuperThicc) skus that I just love (pics below). Honestly, if Blacknoise made an industrial fan in the 140mm range I would choose the lowest rpm rated sku and mount one to both my Noctua C14S air coolers, they are that amazing with extremely high CFM/mass ratio along with quiet motors. They only come in basic black, no frills, no RGB which is fine for my builds.


Yep, if Blacknoise only produced a 140mmx25mm sku, I'd probably not be purchasing the Noctua 140mm Industrials, which by themselves are exceptionally good.

Most groups that manufacture industrial enterprise server and data center cooling fans DO NOT move into the 140mm range at all, only Noctua, and thank goodness they made that decision.

Already have a few Blacknoise 120x25mm skus I can mount a single fan on the front of the YangYi Taiwan 4U server case for a little filtered PUSH flow, and I'll need to order quantity (2) 80mm lowest rpm range Blacknoise to create the dual PULL flow out the rear of the case.

Using a 2nd Aquacomputer Aquaero 6 LT to drive the fans both PWM and DC each fan isolated/mounted with (4) soft silicon grommets, all three case fans plus the 140mm mounted on the Noctua cooler should operate easily within the inaudible range inside the server case. Using MSI's Afterburner software to drive the AMD Radeon Pro workstation graphics card fan, shouldn't hear a single peep from the server case build all day long. Ahhhhh! :)

Wow, all my photos using a color camera remain in black and white. Need to add some color into my life. lol :p

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Case CaseLabs Mercury S8 open bench frame two-tone black front cover with gunmetal chassis
Audio Device(s) Creative $25 2.1 speakers lol
Power Supply Seasonic Prime Titanium 850watt / Seasonic Prime Titanium 700watt Fanless (Arriving November 2019)
Mouse Logitech MX Master 2S dark midnight teal blue wireless
Keyboard HHKB Professional 2 Silent Type-S white and gray PBT keycaps Topre switches
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Ahhh, there's some color. Good morning Trident Z Royal in soothing glowing aqua-teal.

Not to be confused with a Royal with Cheese. lol :p


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The fan reference a few posts back, the Blacknoise Industrial fans from Germany. Way back 2016, when I was still moving enclosures with top and side panels (standard cases) into the inaudible range, I searched for a fan much lighter in mass (therefore easier to isolate) than the Sanyo Denki Industrials which can be a bit on the heavy side. The Blacknoise Industrial Series are ideal for that purpose. Same company that produces the NoiseBlocker eLoops which were/are so popular with enthusiasts.

Have a few 120x25mm and 120x38mm (SuperThicc) skus that I just love (pics below). Honestly, if Blacknoise made an industrial fan in the 140mm range I would choose the lowest rpm rated sku and mount one to both my Noctua C14S air coolers, they are that amazing with extremely high CFM/mass ratio along with quiet motors. They only come in basic black, no frills, no RGB which is fine for my builds.


Yep, if Blacknoise only produced a 140mmx25mm sku, I'd probably not be purchasing the Noctua 140mm Industrials, which by themselves are exceptionally good.

Most groups that manufacture industrial enterprise server and data center cooling fans DO NOT move into the 140mm range at all, only Noctua, and thank goodness they made that decision.

Already have a few Blacknoise 120x25mm skus I can mount a single fan on the front of the YangYi Taiwan 4U server case for a little filtered PUSH flow, and I'll need to order quantity (2) 80mm lowest rpm range Blacknoise to create the dual PULL flow out the rear of the case.

Using a 2nd Aquacomputer Aquaero 6 LT to drive the fans both PWM and DC each fan isolated/mounted with (4) soft silicon grommets, all three case fans plus the 140mm mounted on the Noctua cooler should operate easily within the inaudible range inside the server case. Using MSI's Afterburner software to drive the AMD Radeon Pro workstation graphics card fan, shouldn't hear a single peep from the server case build all day long. Ahhhhh! :)

Wow, all my photos using a color camera remain in black and white. Need to add some color into my life. lol :p
Aside from hating spiky Ryzen, I've always just settled for "good enough" on noise. I'm in heaven with the A12x25. Thinking back, it was a while ago when I was dealing with a screaming 280X Vapor-X and three F12s at full speed :eek:

Was thinking about the Vardar for a while, but the A12x25 sates my gentle typhoon cravings lol
 
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Aside from hating spiky Ryzen, I've always just settled for "good enough" on noise. I'm in heaven with the A12x25. Thinking back, it was a while ago when I was dealing with a screaming 280X Vapor-X and three F12s at full speed :eek:

Was thinking about the Vardar for a while, but the A12x25 sates my gentle typhoon cravings lol
When the A12x25 is available as the A14x25 in black, I'll be all over that fan, Two Please! :D

As you say, absolute inaudibility from your sitting position isn't so important in most situations. Only if you are easily distracted by or sensitive to noise. Unfortunately, I am while working. :oops:

And no real need to approach a silent build from the silicon efficiency extreme point of view like I do. Although yes, that is the most scientific way to begin, and will give you the best overall end results.

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Anytime I delve into this basic stuff most of us learn early on I have to apologize to all those enthusiasts with a strong knowledge base who already know these simple facts and principles. Yet, I still want and feel the need to help those newcomers that do not.
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So for the newcomers:

1) Begin by simply choosing lightweight fans

150grams and less the easiest to isolate
200grams to 250grams easily isolated using a fan controller with a wide range of PWM or dc adjustment
250grams to 300grams extra silicon material may be needed and a fan controller with extra low power "boost at start" capabilities
300grams to 350grams - Forget it, why bother? I've tried - Find another fan. :laugh:

2) Mount them with four soft silicon grommets (pics below)
3) Tune your rpms from maximum down to 75% or 50% into a range that's comfortable for you and gives you great temps, doesn't need to be inaudible.

Zalman and Noctua both offer inexpensive single-channel rheostats that can control multi fans with Y-splitters.

OR even less expensive, my first super silent build was soft grommets to mount all case fans and using about (6) of those molex direct to PSU connectors with in-line resistor voltage attenuators like 49cents to 99cents each, and still free in some of the Noctua and BeQuiet fan packaging.

Those daisy-chain molex fan cables directly off the PSU not pretty or adjustable - yet still work. :)

The greatest single factor if you are just starting out building computers to reduce noise is isolating and absorbing the rotational energy produced by your case fans with soft silicon mounting grommets, instead of hard-mounting your case fans with fan screws and allowing that same noise energy to be transmitted throughout your chassis.

Then, I see enthusiasts after they've hard-mounted their case fans with fan screws adding foam padding to case panels or selecting a silent type case that restricts sound and air ventilation (the Silverstone MM01 is extremely restrictive in that regard) so they cannot hear the extra noise, which in turn usually increases your idle and load temps. I'm like WHAT??? :confused:

Isolating and absorbing the noise energy directly at the source (the fan mounting) is the best way to go. Don't let the noise energy transmit from your fan mounts throughout your case. When you isolate the noise energy at the source be it fan or water pump then even an open air build with no panels or foam padding can perform way down into the inaudible range, with lovely low temperatures.

Again, this basic info is only to help the newcomers, please don't be offended if you already OWN this knowledge base. ;)


So this post is for the 6,000 to 8,000 guests that view TPU continuously everyday, yet are not signed up as members. Thanks for stopping by, hope this basic stuff helps with your new build. :)

Class dismissed. :laugh:


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I need help deciding on the front panel for the Robin build. Let's band together and pick out some options! For the front panel, I was thinking of split reservoir and Aquaero for the 5.25" bays. The pump would then be mounted on the floor.

The alternative would be to go with a dual bay reservoir + D5 combo. The Aquaero would then be mounted somewhere in the case (most likely floor) without the front LCD.

Let's get creative and share some ideas!
 
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I need help deciding on the front panel for the Robin build. Let's band together and pick out some options! For the front panel, I was thinking of split reservoir and Aquaero for the 5.25" bays. The pump would then be mounted on the floor.

The alternative would be to go with a dual bay reservoir + D5 combo. The Aquaero would then be mounted somewhere in the case (most likely floor) without the front LCD.

Let's get creative and share some ideas!
I'm an air kinda guy. Whatever you choose, I'm sure it'll look great!

Got my TJ08T-E and SFX-ATX bracket (I have to use the spare SFX450 for now) to build the rig with just minutes to spare before I left the house. Unfortunately, I left the house and won't be back until Sunday. :( You're up first, bud.

@E-curbi If I was still running the A9x14 exhaust, I would think about doing the whole rubber grommet thing, since I have way too many of them. But I don't because it interferes with dual-fan U9S and D9L. I can try it on the TJ08 with the F12 and eventually the A14, though! Maybe it's best to use screws with the M1 since it travels around town so much.
 
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I need help deciding on the front panel for the Robin build. Let's band together and pick out some options! For the front panel, I was thinking of split reservoir and Aquaero for the 5.25" bays. The pump would then be mounted on the floor.

The alternative would be to go with a dual bay reservoir + D5 combo. The Aquaero would then be mounted somewhere in the case (most likely floor) without the front LCD.

Let's get creative and share some ideas!
I ran that front panel setup/config a few years back. Aquaero 6 XT and EK single bay res. The single bays can be difficult to prime along with your pump, had to fill the loop with the build on it's side, no big deal really but I had very little gravity feeding the pump from reservoir when the build was upright and air would build inside the res easily, and as AquaSuite became SO MUCH BETTER, I really couldn't find a reason to want to glance over at the Aquaero 6 dot-matrix front panel display, when all the information displayed there was also directly in front of me and so much more within the AquaSuite software. Plus the additional pain and clutter of routing all the Aquaero fan and thermal and pump cables to the front of the case. I moved both of my Aquaero 6 XTs into the LT (no display) configuration and never looked back.

I say mount the A6 inside at a convenient location for cabling even on the floor at a distance from the pump or low profile industrial strength velcro or double-sided gorilla tape it to a bare chassis wall if you have any hanging around, always nice to fill up those bare spaces.

I always liked the look of the Koolance dual bay reservoirs, but haven't shopped reservoirs in a long time, so what do I know? :)

...a few retro pics when my 2ndary build had a short water loop. 1x120mm, 1x240mm, 1x360mm rads and Blacknoise Industrial 120mm superfans with velcro/sorbothane soft-mounts to rad. No fan screws, no long radiator screws. No screws whatsoever lololol. Industrial Velcro layered with Sorbothane mat or double-sided gorilla tape works perfectly to soft-mount fans to rads. Ya just stick em on, press and hold. Didn't have any of the (6) 120mm fans lose their grip over the 26months the loop was in service Sept 2016 to Nov 2018 - I should patent that sh*t. :laugh:

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I'm an air kinda guy. Whatever you choose, I'm sure it'll look great!

Got my TJ08T-E and SFX-ATX bracket (I have to use the spare SFX450 for now) to build the rig with just minutes to spare before I left the house. Unfortunately, I left the house and won't be back until Sunday. :( You're up first, bud.

@E-curbi If I was still running the A9x14 exhaust, I would think about doing the whole rubber grommet thing, since I have way too many of them. But I don't because it interferes with dual-fan U9S and D9L. I can try it on the TJ08 with the F12 and eventually the A14, though! Maybe it's best to use screws with the M1 since it travels around town so much.
Yup, definitely everything I said above about soft mounting fans was for computers that stay-at-home. Not those world travelers like your M1 rig. lol :p

Grabbed this cool UPS yesterday, and packing away the super big server one. LOVE this new 1000VA APC UPS so much and the price so nice - well comparatively speaking. I have the Smart UPS Online SRT 1000VA double-conversion (pic this page above post) server-grade blah blah blah rack mount and the lowest price I could find back in 2018 was $589, ouch. This more home office desktop friendly 1000VA UPS was only $148 and it's so sweet. Superquiet, no fan no noise, no auditory output at all from the unit except a few obnoxious alarms that can easily be disabled.

Not certain why I waited so long, adore having a constant all day long "current load in WATTS" displayed 2inches left of monitor while working. Not so sure I'm going back to the super-expensive supertall superheavy server unit at this point.

Sometimes my love for the pro-gear simply gets the best of me, when the home office stuffs is just as sweet or better. :oops:

As far as which VA level to choose. Yea, only $11dollar more and Amazon offers the 1350VA and another $30 gets you the 1500VA. The 1500VA has a working fan installed, so something to consider if you're going for library quiet office space which is always my goal.

Any higher VA over your "calculated needs" is only going to pump more waste heat into your office space even when running on clean AC, more so when the battery kicks in for brief periods brown-outs, spikes, click offs, resets, whatever - we have all that going on in my area. So yea, I wasn't trying to save $11 by going with the 1000VA, lol. I know my maximum VA needed when both PCs are running and the un-rushed time necessary for a proper manual shut down of all gear is around 700VA. So this 1000VA unit lends a bit of room to add a few more components in the future, but more importantly the 1000VA will pump less waste heat into my office all day than the 1350VA or the 1500VA, which is important since even with the air conditioning running it's still fighting against a very warm outdoor environment vs living up north and it's 55F outside working with the windows open - I wish I had that working space - trying to get there with our next move.

Also, the display is nice and big, looks like OLED, much clearer brighter sharper greatly improved over the older dot-matrix of past APC UPS units.

Pardon the crazy cables in the pics everywhere, I'm still in the process of recabling from the old UPS along with (2) separate APC surge strips. :ohwell:

Last pic is proximity to monitor. About one inch away from lower left corner, so ideal when working a quick glance so much comfort to know the working load in watts at any time, maybe it's a nerd thing, but I loves it so much. :p

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