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dbPowerAmp
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Batman Arkham Asylum
Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War II Chaos Rising
Formula 1 2010
Metro 2033
Mafia II

Everything else is okay

New Format + New Benchmarks

Synthetic Suite Benchmarks
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AIDA 64
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Number Crunching Benchmarks
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SuperPi
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MaxxPi Squared
Excel
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Audio Encoding
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Just needs more programs

Video Encoding
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Just needs more programs

Graphics and Rendering
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Just needs more programs

File Compression & Encryption
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Just needs more programs

Gaming Test
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More games?

Since Sandy Bridge is out and Bulldozer is near...maybe we need more detailed set of applications to give a more accurate way to look at a new decade of CPUs
 
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whats the question?
 
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whats the question?

Took the words out of my mouth.

 
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whats the question?

The question is can TechPowerUp improve or enhance or add more data to CPU Benchmarking?

Audio Encoding
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dbPowerAmp
ImToo Audio Encoder
Windows Media Player

Now there is a lot more powerful and better Audio Encoding software out there that are free and commercial

basically, I read techpowerup...

I can't get an adequate representation of performance of CPUs from reviews @ Techpowerup
 

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I can't get an adequate representation of performance of CPUs from reviews @ Techpowerup

I don't see why not?
memory bandwidth, 1333 MHz DDR3 9-9-9-24(JEDEC spec for all platforms).




Cinebench CPU:



Cinebench GPU:




Relative performance in CPU-demanding tasks, including some games, is directly proportional to the data above.

If you want to talk office applications, web browsing, etc, there is virtually no discernable difference, providing and SSD is used, as most of these tasks aren't so much CPU, but more drive/internet related.


Any other questions?
 

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TPU is primarily a GPU review site, with random ones here and there. So far the Graphics department is awesome, the PSU department is good since crmaris came onboard, and every so often Frederik does a good audio review on some extremely expensive gear. You will have to get to other forums for your regular CPU fix, I'm afraid. Doesn't hurt to try though.
 
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Relative performance in CPU-demanding tasks, including some games, is directly proportional to the data above.

Cinebench R11.5 CPU is only relative to Cinema4D

AIDA64 is more memory intensive but you don't see AMD systems always near the bottom



Then you have no idea what the resolution is only that it is "medium" and DX11
 

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Please do not try to use 3D application to show CPU performance, as this is too much VGA-related.

that graph was never meant to show absolute performance, so do not take it as do. That only tells you how those CPUs perform in that app specifically, not overall.

Also note that while I do give benchmarks in my motherboard reviews, I make no mention of benchmark results affecting the overall score. I could remove all benchmarks from my reviews, and still give as much information.

You must consider all information in the context it was given.

Cinebench R11.5 CPU is only relative to Cinema4D

If that was the case, the trend that has emerged with other benchmarks would not correlate, but it does. rather than focus on how the results are given, focus on how results relate to one another. I chose those benchmarks I posted for a reason.

I use SuperPi in my reviews to show the minute differences that can be had by BIOS-level tweaks. The actual numbers and workload are not important...it's how the numbers relate to one another that is important.
 
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And you got this info from where?

I don't see the quality or quantity of the reviews for other products match that of the graphics cards. Only recently PSU started to feature more heavily, and also cases. The others have a sense of "manufacturer sent me this to review, I guess I will take a look at it" feel, completely unlike the graphics card and the PSU section.
 

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I don't see the quality or quantity of the reviews for other products match that of the graphics cards. Only recently PSU started to feature more heavily, and also cases. The others have a sense of "manufacturer sent me this to review, I guess I will take a look at it" feel, completely unlike the graphics card and the PSU section.

Do you have an issues specifically with my reviews? If you do, please let me know, as without feedback I cannot improve things. Lately I have posted far more reviews than W1zz has, so I can only assume you are refering to my reviews.
 
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If that was the case, the trend that has emerged with other benchmarks would not correlate, but it does. rather than focus on how the results are given, forcus on how results relate to one another. I chose those benchmarks I posted for a reason.

My point is not for current generation of CPUs but newer generations of CPUs

More benchmarks and more tests with more programs that are in use or not in use

With more detailed notes of we did this test with such settings
 
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Benchmark Scores Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :)
I have to say, as a reviewer myself, that TPU puts forth more than adequete benchmarks and results up to formulate, at the very minimum, a general idea of relative CPU performance. If you go much more detailed, frankly, you will lose the crowd here.
 

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Do you have an issues specifically with my reviews? If you do, please let me know, as without feedback I cannot improve things. Lately I have posted far more reviews than W1zz has, so I can only assume you are refering to my reviews.

Nothing against your reviews, just the quantity of them. I know its really bad for me to ask a single reviewer (or perhaps 2, Mlee does it too iirc) to review every single motherboard out there, but if you are not covering all common motherboards its I am not going to use TPU as my main motherboard site. I will of course take what you say to account (every TPU reviewer has my respect, and more likely than not the final word), but without your views on competing products (say, for example, Z68 UD3 vs Z68 GD65 vs P8Z68 Pro), its really hard to pass judgement whether the product is good in relation to others of the same class, and because of that I tend to use other websites as starting points, and then come back to see what you say, if you reviewed the product.
 

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Nothing against your reviews, just the quantity of them. I know its really bad for me to ask a single reviewer (or perhaps 2, Mlee does it too iirc) to review every single motherboard out there, but if you are not covering all common motherboards its I am not going to use TPU as my main motherboard site. I will of course take what you say to account (every TPU reviewer has my respect, and more likely than not the final word), but without your views on competing products (say, for example, Z68 UD3 vs Z68 GD65 vs P8Z68 Pro), its really hard to pass judgement whether the product is good in relation to others of the same class.

That is very legitimate feedback, and I appreciate it.

It does take me a considerable amount of time to complete a review. I could do one every week, if need be, if my arm wasn't hurt. That will be fixed soon, and ultimately, that is my goal, one review a week, with more information that what I offer now. I am currently working on arranging the supporting hardware, and will be taking a brief hiatus from reviews while I recover from surgery. When I return, the format will improve, but it's going to take alot of work to prepare.

That said, I have not been doing reviews that long, so I did have to establish myself before OEMs would start sending me stuff more often.

I do feel that over the past 8 and a half months I've got a good start, and I do cover things that no other site does. I've got pretty solid support from the OEMs too, so I can almsot 100% guarantee this will improve in the future.

It is jsut me doing the motherboard reviews, and if you check that past little bit, you'l lsee that I have been doing just that, one review per week. Considering I do put in near 40 hours per review with testing and writing, etc, that is about as fast as I can do it, without sacrificing quality. TPU is a full-time job for me, and it's not just reviews. ;)
 

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Indeed you have been doing a good job, but I think the market is being unfair to you. To classify as a reliable reviewer (at least in my books), you will need to cover the main products of all the major motherboard manufacturers (Asus, Gigabyte, Asrock, MSI), and then one for their premium product, and another for budget, which is about 12 per socket. Add the sockets (1155, upcoming 2011, FM1, AM3+), and then different chipsets (P67, Z68 etc), suddenly you need to review hundreds of motherboards. That is completely unacceptable for a single reviewer to cover over the course of the socket/board's life, so stick to your nice reviews, and do a roundup between comparable boards when you see fit. That way we do not need to rescale your opinions in relation to other people's through guesswork.
 
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Benchmark Scores Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :)
Thats some awfully lofty requests... even for a site as big as TPU.

Is there any site that meets those standards Fourstaff?
 
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yes and after youve reviewed them all, you need to package them all well with all of their accesories and post them (via courier preferably) to my house to fap...i mean look after them :)
 

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Is there any site that meets those standards Fourstaff?

Unfortunately not :ohwell:

Tom's Hardware comes close, but still no cigar.
 

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Dude, if I could get every motherboard possible, I would. Not all OEMs offer me a choice in products either. There is also the issue that supporting hardware like videocards, PSUs, CPUs, HDDs, and everything else need to be considered as well, so while it might seem like no big deal, actually arranging reviews is far more complex, and expensive, than you might imagine.

Doing round-ups and such is possible. In the future, Intel boards will be reviewed with Intel boards, and AMD with AMD. I do have enough onhand now to make that possible, but it took some time to build that up.

I will be changing the review hardware soon which means I will have to rebench a lot of these boards. That will provide the opportunity for a "round-up" type of review, so maybe I'll have to see what I can come up with, and see how it goes. I am definitely looking into other formats that can allow us to generate more content. However, I not only have to approve this with W1zz, for example, but also the OEMs, so I cannot provide any guarantees, but it IS for sure something that is being explored, so your timing, actually, is pretty damn good, to be honest.
 
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