Bios Mod Fail... Help!

[paintufast]

Do you have a unmodified bios As a backup?

I saved the original bios on my cards before I did anything else. So yes. I saved them through GPUZ

I am concerned that my original bios file is part of my problem. I’m trying to look up the bios on tech power up system linked above. Got it down to 6 to pick from but not sure which is for sure mine.

I’m thinking that my 256 kB file may be wrong, and it should actually be 512. Another guy I work with, said that gpuz doesn’t save the complete files. And he’s POSITIVE that my cards rom should be 512 not 256

So now what...

 

[eidairaman1]

I saved the original bios on my cards before I did anything else. So yes. I saved them through GPUZ

I am concerned that my original bios file is part of my problem. I’m trying to look up the bios on tech power up system linked above. Got it down to 6 to pick from but not sure which is for sure mine.

I’m thinking that my 256 kB file may be wrong, and it should actually be 512. Another guy I work with, said that gpuz doesn’t save the complete files. And he’s POSITIVE that my cards rom should be 512 not 256

So now what...

@W1zzard.

Do you have a dual bios card?

 

[paintufast]

@W1zzard.

Do you have a dual bios card?

Nope. It’s not dual bios, as far as I can tell. I cannot find a switch anywhere on it. It does have two small chips that look like bios chips on it (see photo posted a few posts above). But I don't see a switch anywhere. I have looked multiple times.

https://anorak.tech/community/t/msi-rx-580-8gb-v1/35607

Should work right?

 

[MrGenius]

The BIOS you just flashed, according to those last pics, doesn't have a Device ID. So that's the most obvious problem. No Device ID = your system has no idea what the card is.

What is the 512KB BIOS file you have? Is it your original? Or just the one your friend gave you? Is the one he gave you supposed to be the original but modified?

There's a couple BIOS files in the unverified section that are supposedly for the card you have. One's for Hynix memory(the 113-MSITV809MH.L40 that was on your card before you just flashed it with the no dev ID BIOS), the other is for Micron.
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/198872/198872
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/197875/197875

What does your card have for memory? Hynix or Micron or Samsung? I don't suppose you know. If you attach your original BIOS I should be able to figure that much out for you. Or at least narrow it down to needing a BIOS that supports 2 or 3 brands.

BTW, 256 or 512 shouldn't matter. Attach that 512KB file and I can verify that. I bet the last 256KB are empty(all 0s).

 

[Caring1]

I bet the last 256KB are empty(all 0s).

I'm sure W1zzard already confirmed that previously.

 

[eidairaman1]

I'm sure W1zzard already confirmed that previously.

He said it because the original poster did not catch Wizards message

 

[paintufast]

The BIOS you just flashed, according to those last pics, doesn't have a Device ID. So that's the most obvious problem. No Device ID = your system has no idea what the card is.

What is the 512KB BIOS file you have? Is it your original? Or just the one your friend gave you? Is the one he gave you supposed to be the original but modified?

There's a couple BIOS files in the unverified section that are supposedly for the card you have. One's for Hynix memory(the 113-MSITV809MH.L40 that was on your card before you just flashed it with the no dev ID BIOS), the other is for Micron.
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/198872/198872
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/197875/197875

What does your card have for memory? Hynix or Micron or Samsung? I don't suppose you know. If you attach your original BIOS I should be able to figure that much out for you. Or at least narrow it down to needing a BIOS that supports 2 or 3 brands.

BTW, 256 or 512 shouldn't matter. Attach that 512KB file and I can verify that. I bet the last 256KB are empty(all 0s).

I did another flash to another backup (I had several in diff places because I had emailed them and moved between two HDD's) and the new flash DOES have device ID, that didn't fix it yet. Pic coming shortly

I BELIEVE my card is either Hynix or Samsung, but I can't be certain now. I took a lot of pics of things along the way, but I can't find one from GPUZ and obviously I can't look now. I will also attach the bios files that I think are my originals that I saved thru GPUz, standby.

it wont let me post .rom files. whats the best way to get them here for folks to see?

These two files are my original bios and the anorak modded bios. In Polaris bios editor. Does this help?

Looks like micron memory.

UPDATE, when I do my “original” bios i am getting the version that has no device ID ETC. so that original is no good for some reason.

Good look at another one to try, with micron memory, from the web... will update.

The BIOS you just flashed, according to those last pics, doesn't have a Device ID. So that's the most obvious problem. No Device ID = your system has no idea what the card is.

What is the 512KB BIOS file you have? Is it your original? Or just the one your friend gave you? Is the one he gave you supposed to be the original but modified?

There's a couple BIOS files in the unverified section that are supposedly for the card you have. One's for Hynix memory(the 113-MSITV809MH.L40 that was on your card before you just flashed it with the no dev ID BIOS), the other is for Micron.
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/198872/198872
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/197875/197875

What does your card have for memory? Hynix or Micron or Samsung? I don't suppose you know. If you attach your original BIOS I should be able to figure that much out for you. Or at least narrow it down to needing a BIOS that supports 2 or 3 brands.

BTW, 256 or 512 shouldn't matter. Attach that 512KB file and I can verify that. I bet the last 256KB are empty(all 0s).

The first CMD is trying to do my original bios which looks like it worked but didn’t have Device ID etc

Second photo is using the bios at the micron Link you shared. Restarting now...

CMD stuff here...

no luck on the restart. Trying to run DDU, will reflash, then re install AMD drivers and see if that helps...

Any other advice, Im all ears

It’s alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Now I have another question. When I use Radeon settings and I boost cards MHZ for memory (to 2250), my MHS doesn’t change AT ALL.

Why? What’s the deal? 27 is way better than zero. But this card should be in the low 30s not 27mhs.

I have the same problem with my other new rx 580. (Armor OC)

So moving forward. I still want to mod these bios. I will use CMD prompt from now on as that is much clearer and you can see whats happening. I have a good backup saved (the one suggested above that I downloaded).

I don't see a good modded version saved anywhere yet for this specific model.

 

[eidairaman1]

I did another flash to another backup (I had several in diff places because I had emailed them and moved between two HDD's) and the new flash DOES have device ID, that didn't fix it yet. Pic coming shortly

I BELIEVE my card is either Hynix or Samsung, but I can't be certain now. I took a lot of pics of things along the way, but I can't find one from GPUZ and obviously I can't look now. I will also attach the bios files that I think are my originals that I saved thru GPUz, standby.

it wont let me post .rom files. whats the best way to get them here for folks to see?

These two files are my original bios and the anorak modded bios. In Polaris bios editor. Does this help?

Looks like micron memory.

UPDATE, when I do my “original” bios i am getting the version that has no device ID ETC. so that original is no good for some reason.

Good look at another one to try, with micron memory, from the web... will update.



The first CMD is trying to do my original bios which looks like it worked but didn’t have Device ID etc

Second photo is using the bios at the micron Link you shared. Restarting now...

CMD stuff here...

no luck on the restart. Trying to run DDU, will reflash, then re install AMD drivers and see if that helps...

Any other advice, Im all ears

It’s alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Now I have another question. When I use Radeon settings and I boost cards MHZ for memory (to 2250), my MHS doesn’t change AT ALL.

Why? What’s the deal? 27 is way better than zero. But this card should be in the low 30s not 27mhs.

I have the same problem with my other new rx 580. (Armor OC)

So moving forward. I still want to mod these bios. I will use CMD prompt from now on as that is much clearer and you can see whats happening. I have a good backup saved (the one suggested above that I downloaded).

I don't see a good modded version saved anywhere yet for this specific model.

Is this your specific card?
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/support/Radeon-RX-580-8G-V1#down-quickguide
Didn't you learn anything from this?

Cut the crap out and leave the card alone.

Your problem is fixed, so just stop it please before you break it.

If you want to overclock use MSI Afterburner.

If you want to Mine, ask a question at the Mining Bios repository

 

[paintufast]

Didn't you learn anything from this?

Cut the crap out and leave the card alone.

Your problem is fixed, so just stop it please before you break it.

If you want to overclock use MSI Afterburner.

If you want to Mine, ask a question at the Mining Bios repository

I expected an answer similar to this.

What I learned is that mistakes are costly and difficult and annoying as hell and there is a lot of risk involved. Which is why I am asking about doing things right.

Sir, (and other sirs) I GREATLY appreciate all of your help. I would not have solved this problem without it, as you well know.

I am mining, so I do want to mine, and I want it to be as efficient as possible. Bios modification is a good way to add speed, when done properly. I will look in the mining bios repository.

Again, I am not going to do anything stupid and I really really truly appreciate your help. You guys rock.

 

[eidairaman1]

I expected an answer similar to this.

What I learned is that mistakes are costly and difficult and annoying as hell and there is a lot of risk involved. Which is why I am asking about doing things right.

Sir, (and other sirs) I GREATLY appreciate all of your help. I would not have solved this problem without it, as you well know.

I am mining, so I do want to mine, and I want it to be as efficient as possible. Bios modification is a good way to add speed, when done properly. I will look in the mining bios repository.

Again, I am not going to do anything stupid and I really really truly appreciate your help. You guys rock.

Ok.

Is this your specific card?
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/support/Radeon-RX-580-8G-V1#down-quickguide

These links say V1 for your bios, your Boost is 1340MHz for core, ram is 2000 (8000 effective)

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/197875/197875

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/198872/198872

These are backups.

Also, please tell us what helped fix your card too for future members.

Save 3 copies of the bios you flashed from the vga bios collection.

Change the name of 1 only, make sure .rom is at the end of it.

Since you are mining, please refer questions to here

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/mining-bios-repository.237382/

 

[Sasqui]

I believe @Sasqui had used a flashcat or something

That was for an 8 pin BIOS chip on a motherboard, though no reason it shouldn't work for a vcard... www.embeddedcomputers.net

 

[paintufast]

So I haven’t wrapped this post up and for that I apologize guys. Here is kind of a summary...

I messed with the 1-8 pin reset. There are two identical chips on the back of my card and I’m not sure which is my bios chip. I tried multiple attempts at this and assuming different arrangements of the pins (ie different 1-8 variations). I got an actual small spark at one point and assumed. That’s it, I fragged this thing...

So I decided to start all over. I took my mining rig fully apart and powered and connected the card directly to my PC power supply (usually I use a secondary server PSU for my GPUs) and when I booted it up, opened winflash it displayed a Radeon Polaris 10 driver! However GPUZ, afterburner and Radeon software didn’t see the card. But I was able to open CMD prompt and perform “ATIFlash -i” and it showed my card. So I tried reflashing my original bios I had saved from GPUZ before any editing. When I did this I could see in the CMD file that it didn’t have device name etc. This is when I confirmed a tip for going forward.

***** NEVER SAVE A BIOS COPY THROUGH GPU-Z!! *****

I don’t know for sure what the issue is, but it doesn’t save a complete copy or something.

So I got online and found a link on tech power up that had a stock bios for my exact card and memory type. (For future readers, memory type can be determined through GPUZ). So I downloaded this new “original” bios. Then flashed thru CMD window the new bios. Restarted and....

Nothing changed...I was at a loss...

THEN, I got a tip. I ran DDU, restarted, and then reflashed bio, restarted PC and then re-downloaded Radeon drivers.

VOILA.

I’m back in business. My “brick” is hashing away!
Thanks everyone for the tips and advice.

Also,

As I mentioned above, I have a second card that I messed up as well (not bricked, but not right). See link here for some light reading, if you are interested in following my saga and trying to help. Or just if you want to pop in and throw tomatoes at a newb!

 

[Iguanasan]

Two things I notice in your posts.

#1 - I would never start a memory OC at 2200. I think I've gotten one of my cards to get to 2050 with no memory errors. My worst performer is my 480 Sapphire Nitro 8g (w/ Samsung memory!)...I have to put it down to 1825mhz for zero memory errors. I'd start around 2000 and move up if you have zero memory errors after a few minutes or down if you have any.

#2 - Always use ATIWinflash (or whatever flashing software you use) to make your original image backup. I don't trust GPU-Z dumps...I saw a video on what you have to do to modify them...not worth it unless you have to.