Blue-ray put to death,by Chinese

[Deleted member 67555]

China- http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/markets/china/article6732410.ece
I don't think it will be long before you can get a CBHD player on Fleebay,if not already
bye bye blue ray AT dvd cost HD is gonna make a comeback

 

[Deleted member 24505]

If its cheaper than the £25 a film in the uk,then good luck to it.

 

[alexp999]

I really dont think supporting a format whose software is owned by the Govt is a good idea at all.

Maybe this format will flourish in China, but I cant see it working anywhere else.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

If its cheaper than the £25 a film in the uk,then good luck to it.

£4.5 according to article

 

[Deleted member 67555]

I really dont think supporting a format whose software is owned by the Govt is a good idea at all.

Maybe this format will flourish in China, but I cant see it working anywhere else.

As long as Movies are spoken in english the rest would be easy to deal with, But with world markets slumped Cheap, Is the way to go and If the Chinese Gov were to charge $.50 per player to use that would put 720p movies at $10 here in the U.S., Maybe not a good idea for Gov to own, but $ money talks
EDIT: just remember in CHINA, GOV owned means, THE PEOPLE OWN.... And how could you have a problem with that...I have no problems paying for fee's for development for the people who developed "IT" But i do have a problem with paying the LEACH corporations to sit on it..Which is what Sony Does...Which is why I don't own blue-ray, I own HD copy which is registered to "me" and my devices, I might pay the same as BLUE-RAY but I never paid for CRUMMY bloated over priced player

 

[Sasqui]

Getting a 404 error on that link.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

Getting a 404 error on that link.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=562&tag=nl.e539 try this one plus there is a link to the other article as well

 

[suraswami]

so those movies even if they are hollywood movies will quit working in the middle of the movie for no reason right?

 

[AKlass]

I'd rather invest in Japenese blu-ray then cheapo Chinese sweat shop players that have bad quality control

 

[FordGT90Concept]

I really dont think supporting a format whose software is owned by the Govt is a good idea at all.

Ditto, especially the Chinese government. The first thing that popped into my mind is that this "format" is simply a distribution system for nasty software (think malware including viruses, worms, drone computing, DRM, rootkits, and the like). I trust the Chinese government less than I trust Sony and I do not trust Sony at all.

Me, I'll stick to regular old DVDs for the next decade. Even DVDs are pretty craptastic in regards to DRM compared to VHS. Consumers are getting screwed. There's no two ways about it.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

Ditto, especially the Chinese government. The first thing that popped into my mind is that this "format" is simply a distribution system for nasty software (think malware including viruses, worms, drone computing, DRM, rootkits, and the like). I trust the Chinese government less than I trust Sony and I do not trust Sony at all.

Me, I'll stick to regular old DVDs for the next decade. Even DVDs are pretty craptastic in regards to DRM compared to VHS. Consumers are getting screwed. There's no two ways about it.

Most of your Pc was "Made in China" and most of ur monitor if not all of it LOL
As for second part

 

[niko084]

I'd rather invest in Japenese blu-ray then cheapo Chinese sweat shop players that have bad quality control

AMEN!

*drools at all of my Japanese solid state class a audio equipment*

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Most of your Pc was "Made in China" and most of ur monitor if not all of it LOL

Quality control often isn't. Still, I don't like that aspect of it as much as the rest. This is mainly why I don't trust the Chinese government, at all:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Shield_Project

The press is what keeps the government honest. Blocking information like they are allows them to shape minds--entire generations of minds. It isn't good...


China is as much a police state as North Korea. The only difference is the West is funding China and not North Korea.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

AMEN!

*drools at all of my Japanese solid state class a audio equipment*

so far looked up 15 blue ray players all "made in china"
the thing is your paying $22 for the blue-ray player "rights" and $x per movie This was China buying the "Rights" for hd format 720p so they would not have to "pay" "drm" fees thus reducing the price per movie to 25% of Blue-Ray cost..
any way you look at it, your buying Chinese made stuff, the question is do you want to pay ROYALTIES to a leach corporation.. AS i said i am willing to pay for development cost's,but not an extra TURD fee

 

[niko084]

so far looked up 15 blue ray players all "made in china"
the thing is your paying $22 for the blue-ray player "rights" and $x per movie This was China buying the "Rights" for hd format 720p so they would not have to "pay" "drm" fees thus reducing the price per movie to 25% of Blue-Ray cost..
any way you look at it, your buying Chinese made stuff, the question is do you want to pay ROYALTIES to a leach corporation.. AS i said i am willing to pay for development cost's,but not an extra TURD fee

I don't own a bluray player either...
I refuse to pay the outrageous price for Sony's half rate inefficient technology.

But I have been slowly considering buying one..
*NOT made in China*

The one I am most interested in buying is the Yamaha BD-S2900, which is made in Japan.

But I agree, it's a mess... Exactly why I refuse to pay for half of it.

 

[Timothy B. Schmit]

I agree, I was browsing through DVDs the other day and the prices of blue ray were astonishing!

 

[joinmeindeath417]

Blu Ray prices are dropping and soon will cost as much as DVD, do you guys not remember (if some are old enough) when VHS was being taken over by DVD, the movies were over 40 dollars a piece and the hardware was more than blu ray players are now, they are dropping faster than dvd format did,

Anyway, go buy a funstation 3 and play some of those games haha,

Point is in the U.S the format wars wont consider the CBHD, Sony has a lot of companies under there blu ray agreement, and if they have to by the time the "CBHD" comes here it will be just as cheap as dvd's cost, hell i saw a few new release movies at best buy and watchmen was only 24.99 Vs the DVD release at 24.99

just an example? i think those are the same price and one his Blu ray?

point is a matter of time before blu ray is really cheap and cost as much as dvd's, so this is basically good for anyone over seas but for us it doesn't really matter

 

[TheMailMan78]

This will never fly. No major players are supporting it. This will be like all the dumb knock offs that the Russians did in the 80's.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

I bought my first DVD player at Walmart for $179 in the late 90's but that was worth it cause i had a big square Tv that needed the 480i progressive scan. The cost for DVD's was exactly the same price at Walmart for Vhs, and i got a free 6 month membership with 6 months paid to Netflix for exactly the same price i pay now $9.49 a month but now i get Netflix "watch instantly" with Starz on demand And yeah i could get Blue-ray as well,Holly shit!!! LOL I could pick up a Blue-ray for $149 but neh It really is on it's way out

 

[joinmeindeath417]

i have to disagree it is far from on its way out? the medium isn't even being utilized cause of price yet trust me as a computer tech i'd rather copy customers data to a BD-R that is 25gb vs 5 Dvd's it just easier, granted the cost is too high to assume every customer has a BD drive in there PC but remember the technology is still new and at the time of "Format wars" it was still risky to invest in not knowing who would win.

This china CBHD doesn't even have backward support like the Blu ray players which is a huge plus once again, who wants to have 2 units that plays movies when they can do it in one package, that's how the customer looks at it, can you explain how Blu ray is on its way out im really curious to why it is.

 

[r9]

That players would be twice worst than blueray but 5 times cheaper so it is a Ok by me.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

i have to disagree it is far from on its way out? the medium isn't even being utilized cause of price yet trust me as a computer tech i'd rather copy customers data to a BD-R that is 25gb vs 5 Dvd's it just easier, granted the cost is too high to assume every customer has a BD drive in there PC but remember the technology is still new and at the time of "Format wars" it was still risky to invest in not knowing who would win.

This china CBHD doesn't even have backward support like the Blu ray players which is a huge plus once again, who wants to have 2 units that plays movies when they can do it in one package, that's how the customer looks at it, can you explain how Blu ray is on its way out im really curious to why it is.

I know, nobody thinks Blue-Ray will hit sudden death, However OnDemand Is working out the Legal ends to a Better Digital copy license that will not require a "player" but just a Broad band connection, in comes the New Pansonic Viera's a few Sony's and a few Lg's That not only let you watch Netflix Ondemand etc... but allow you to watch Hulu etc.... all in HD so as i see it 2 years

 

[joinmeindeath417]

yes but there is a huge part of the market and i mean gigantic that actually like owning a hard copy of something part of a collection, that is where its going to stop digital download movies will probably just be what it is for netflix and on demand for the people who don't want to own something and just watch it. i personally will buy a hard copy of a good movie if i like it, i don't really buy anything digital cause i like owning it.

So they can stream movies to there tv's and what not "like we can do now" those new tv's will come with a price and im sure its hefty, why not just buy a 360 that lets you watch netflix on your tv for 199 dollars or buy the media player from netflix for 99 dollars?

it sounds great on paper but the success only lies in with rental service or than purchasing.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

VHS filled a void in the market as much as DVD did. The same goes for tapes to CDs for the music industry. Namely, VHS required rewinding and altering the tracking to get a good picture and DVDs have neither of those downsides. The only real downside of a DVD player is that it can't serve as a mixing device like VHS could (merge various analog channels into one) but, because that is over the average consumer's need/want/care, DVD killed VHS virtually overnight.

Cassettes got toppled virtually overnight for the same reasons VHS did--no more rewinding.


Enter BD-DVD and HD-DVD. It offers only one benefit: better picture. A lot of consumers switching from analog to digital are seeing all the blotching on news hosts' faces--a major turn off. Really, I think there are many parallels in BD-DVD vs DVD as there is in PCs. BD-DVD is the enthusiast's product like your Alienwares, quad-SLI, SSDs, and other extravagant hardware people buy for bragging rights and the rest fit under DVD/mainstream PCs. The way I see it, BD-DVD is a niche market just like enthusiast computers--it is not something the lion's share of consumers can be convinced they need.

 

[DrOctopus]

50kuai is too expensive for the average consumer in china i think. with dvd's at an average of around 5kuai i doubt they will be very popular. However, with the government backing them anything is possible. Just think of the example in central china, (i forget the province but its the main tobacco producing area) the government set in place a law that you must purchase 1 pack of cigarettes (double happiness i beleive)a week or have to deal with a comparatively significant fine. Not the best example as i think they've since revoked the law but it provides a fine example as to how far the government is willing to go to sustain publicly owned companies.