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Bringing the gtx 780 back to life.

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I recently got tired of listening to the fans on my gpu's. Also, it was taxing my psu to have two of them. So I took out one of the two gtx 780's I had in sli and added the first graphics card to my water loop with a full cover waterblock. I also replaced the pump with a 25 watt Swiftech MCP50X and added an additional radiator.
With knowledge I've gathered through 100's of trial and errors making changes in the bios, I finally figured out how to make it stable. No one else's idea for a bios for the EVGA SC w/ ACX cooler could make my card fully controllable with msi afterburner or stable by any means. After doing what I describe below, the clock still drops down to 324mhz and 850mv in desktop mode.
It's all about the bios for your nvidia graphics card. If you want performance, first you have to learn the bios, how it works for your card. Don't change anything until your sure of what your doing. Also make sure you open gpu-z and make sure your working with the correct bios number for your card long before you try to flash anything. The bios version for your hardware should be on the back of the card. I suggest using that number and that number only especially if your doing any modifications to it. I use the Kepler Bios Tweaker for everything.
I don't like Nvidia's gpu boost 2.0 for the gtx 780. So I made the card think it has three solid clock states, instead of a varieting top frequency. A lot of this has to do with the voltage, or more so taking away the curve, and if you have the available power or wattage. I found the only way to get voltage stability was to set each power state to 996 watts and the last max to 997watts. Also, on the voltage table, my thoughts here are that it doesn't matter so much the voltage that you flash it at as it does the stability factor. Variating voltages equals changing clock speeds. CLK 35-52 on the voltage table should be taken into consideration, along with the first 7 power states under the voltage tab.
Under the basic clock settings, I used entry #0 for all three clocks states and set a very high boost limit. After flashing it, and without changing anything in msi afterburner, it ran solid at 1071 mhz and 1.212 volts. I unlocked voltage control and turned that down to 1100mv. I'm very familiar with what this card is stable at at what voltage. Max temp while benchmarking 39 degrees C, without the clock speed ever changing, CPU 55 degrees. From this point on, I have full control of my voltage and clock speed.
I started raising in 13 mhz increments until it needed more voltage, then I added voltage. Repeated until the mid 1400mhz's running unigine heaven extreme and decided not to push my luck. I've seen what most gtx 780's overclock to. I backed it down to 1389mhz. Even though my max GPU temp even in the 1400mhz's was 56 degrees while benchmarking, better safe then sorry.
Moral of the story, water is good. And a properly tuned and cooled graphics card can perform better than you think if your used to air cooling. My benchmark scores now are similar to when I was running SLI and choking the graphics cards of wattage. If you don't have the wattage, a single card is a much better choice than two poorly performing ones.

Also, I took a power reading with an amp meter for ac electricty from the wall. Maximum was 4.9 amps and if you know ohm's law, you'd know that is 588 total watts @ 120 volts.

Render Test. It will game like this solid too.
 

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Dude,please stop spamming your thread. Just edit your posts please.

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I might however close you down if you continue to Double post rather than use the edit/multiquote feature. Other than that....... welcome!
 
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I might however close you down if you continue to Double post rather than use the edit/multiquote feature. Other than that....... welcome!
Tom's Hardware banned my account for having a character of cartoon network. If cartoon network isn't family oriented, then what the hell are people watching? I've been using techpowerup.com for years, but I just now opened an account. I've never forum posted before here, sorry.
 
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Tom's Hardware banned my account for having this avatar. I've been using techpowerup.com for years, but I just now opened an account. I've never forum posted before here, sorry.

Glad you gave decided to join in on the fun;)

Btw, tom HW is basically a commercial with intermittent tech based arguing, your better off w/o it. Honestly, T'sHW is in my mind, like an onion, but the part that doest suck is in the center and to get to it you have to peel away 100 layers of dog$hit. And then all you have to do is wade through an endless ocean of arguments about how to properly apply thermal paste :shadedshu:
 

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Glad you gave decided to join in on the fun;)

Btw, tom HW is basically a commercial with intermittent tech based arguing, your better off w/o it. Honestly, T'sHW is in my mind, like an onion, but the part that doest suck is in the center and to get to it you have to peel away 100 layers of dog$hit. And then all you have to do is wade through an endless ocean of arguments about how to properly apply thermal paste :shadedshu:

Yeah, I've used the forums for years, read plenty of disputes about this or that. But on tom's hardware, when you search for a common problem, you get some very uncommon solutions, and a lot of posts saying "HELP, I can't get my 4790k to stabilize at 6ghz" lol. Lots of questions, not a lot of answers. Thanks for having me.
 

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Pretty nice clocks. My old MSI 780Ti Gaming got only 1200MHz, tho the vBIOS was untouched.
 
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Tom's Hardware banned my account for having this avatar.
Personally I find it offensive, but if the Mods don't mind, then I can only ignore your posts, which will be a first for me.
 
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That's the biggest problem of today, people getting offended by meaningless things.
It is meant to be a family friendly forum, if they think that is alright, then there is nothing I can do but place him on ignore so I don't have to see it.
 
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I got banned from Tom's too for having "Duality92@OCN" as a watermark on picture. Without warning, just one day, ban hammered.

Best is, the admin sent me a message if I wanted to discuss it, but I can't send private messages to anyone because that function is disabled.

On subject, good for you getting yout 780's back alive!
 
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Pretty nice clocks. My old MSI 780Ti Gaming got only 1200MHz, tho the vBIOS was untouched.
Yeah they all did 1200 on stock voltage.

I got banned from Tom's too for having "Duality92@OCN" as a watermark on picture. Without warning, just one day, ban hammered.

Best is, the admin sent me a message if I wanted to discuss it, but I can't send private messages to anyone because that function is disabled.

On subject, good for you getting yout 780's back alive!
I think they think at tom's hardware, your avatar resembles your intellect. This is a character off of cartoon network, a family's channel. TV says it's family friendly, unless you child lock yourself from cartoon network so you don't see such offensive things.
 
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I'm still running my GTX780 at stock clocks... How much faster is it realistically overclocked?
 
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I'm still running my GTX780 at stock clocks... How much faster is it realistically overclocked?
a 1400mhz gtx 780 is %61.7142857 or 1.62 times higher than over default speeds, while running in the forties, early fifties C. I don't know what this means in terms of real life performance because I use Vsync, but on 3dmark 3dmark11 unigine valley skydiver firestrike got similar scores with my overclocked single 780 as I did with two Gtx 780's in SLi, (not enough amperage on the 12v rail). But with one card, the sky is the limit. With adequate cooling of course. And knowledge of BIOS modification. Also, if you've never flashed a bios before, it can be extremely complicated when it comes down to what card will do what. Say a resistor blows on your GPU at 1228mhz, but I'm over here running 1400+mhz not a sweat. It's luck of the draw, and knowing the BIOS of your cards functionality. These things are built somewhere else then assembled in China. You're are not going to find quality control.
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Delete the thread. I dont know what I am doing obviously
 
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Ive got 2 Asus 780 Ti's OC DC II i have flashed them to the SKYNET bios, then water blocked cause the factory junk fans. I have noticed on mine, it will only overclock by certain divisor's. Like say 20 so if i change my clock speed to anything but a divisor of twenty it will fail.(this may or may not help you)
 

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a 1400mhz gtx 780 is %61.7142857 or 1.62 times higher than over default speeds, while running in the forties, early fifties C. I don't know what this means in terms of real life performance because I use Vsync, but on 3dmark 3dmark11 unigine valley skydiver firestrike got similar scores with my overclocked single 780 as I did with two Gtx 780's in SLi, (not enough amperage on the 12v rail). But with one card, the sky is the limit. With adequate cooling of course. And knowledge of BIOS modification. Also, if you've never flashed a bios before, it can be extremely complicated when it comes down to what card will do what. Say a resistor blows on your GPU at 1228mhz, but I'm over here running 1400+mhz not a sweat. It's luck of the draw, and knowing the BIOS of your cards functionality. These things are built somewhere else then assembled in China. You're are not going to find quality control.
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I was hoping you'd done some testing! :(

I doubt my gainward would do well, its not the most renouned brand. although stock cooler keeps it very cool

Delete the thread. I dont know what I am doing obviously

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Welcome to the fourm!

Good job setting custom bioses yourself. I cheated and used a well known modded bios for my titans (same card and changes as your 780 basically).. Disabling gpu boost is the best thing you can do on these cards imo. It's such an annoying 'feature' but I guess it's good for the average joe with no interest in overclocking.

You should be fine at 1.21v, I'm using a beta version of afterburner with voltage unlocked giving me up to 1.3v. I've used up to 1.25v fairly regularly for benchmarks and 1.21v for games.. I haven't managed to kill them yet! :rolleyes: They use an obscene amount of wattage when turned up this high though! :twitch:

Thanks for sharing your adventure with us.

A note to users considering this... don't even contemplate doing this unless you can live with bricking your card. Before flashing be sure you either have a spare gpu so you can flash it back and maybe recover from a bad flash/bios. Blind flashing is possible but might not work if you get any keystrokes wrong.
 
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I was hoping you'd done some testing! :(

I doubt my gainward would do well, its not the most renouned brand. although stock cooler keeps it very cool



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Welcome to the fourm!

Good job setting custom bioses yourself. I cheated and used a well known modded bios for my titans (same card and changes as your 780 basically).. Disabling gpu boost is the best thing you can do on these cards imo. It's such an annoying 'feature' but I guess it's good for the average joe with no interest in overclocking.

You should be fine at 1.21v, I'm using a beta version of afterburner with voltage unlocked giving me up to 1.3v. I've used up to 1.25v fairly regularly for benchmarks and 1.21v for games.. I haven't managed to kill them yet! :rolleyes: They use an obscene amount of wattage when turned up this high though! :twitch:

Thanks for sharing your adventure with us.

A note to users considering this... don't even contemplate doing this unless you can live with bricking your card. Before flashing be sure you either have a spare gpu so you can flash it back and maybe recover from a bad flash/bios. Blind flashing is possible but might not work if you get any keystrokes wrong.
I've flashed several cards, hundreds and hundreds of times with various bios's (according to the card of course) You must know how to work a Command Prompt. And have the necessary files to recover it if you slip up and leave a step out, or mistype in cmd, you can mess some stuff up easy.
 

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