Building 1st gaming computer. Looking for ideas.

[PLAfiller]

Cpu

Are you still planning on getting AMD CPU? or you have changed your mind?

I'd personally skimp on the CPU cooler. I'd probably get, CM 212 plus/Evo, for about half the price of the AIO from them. Also, 16GB ram is close to nothing these days, but if you are strung on cash, you could get 1x8gb and later on down the road get a 2nd piece. I am relatively sure you won't be that much restricted. I am running 2x4gb Cruicial on my laptop and working with Aftereffects from time to time, apart from everything else I do. Honestly I've never even run close to runnning out of RAM, not even when rendering. I wouldn't mind a faster CPU though...I really wouldn't mind it. SSD is obligatory , and the mechanical drive, I am guessing will be for the Steam Library mainly, but if you already have a solution...nah for 60 bucks just get that 2 TB anyway. US baby, gotta love those cheap PC parts

 

[krusha03]

Nah, was talking about the xfx psu. I've had mixed luck with their GPUs but if it's a seasonic inside it's fine I am sure.

I try to read... Still not immune to mistakes on occasion but yeah.

Ah ok nvm then, i apologize for my cockiness

They frequently don't put any form of cooling over one set of VRMs (Typically VRM2). The common issues with XFX GPUs is the VRM throttling due to wildly hot (128 degrees +) temperatures, and also the fact they don't let you remove the cooler, otherwise it voids the warranty.

All their PSUs however are Sea Sonic made, so they always get a recommendation from me.

This is true my 7950 DD is so hot and so loud but can mess with the cooler since then i get my warranty voided.... Luckily I have good headphones

 

[waspman3372]

Are you still planning on getting AMD CPU? or you have changed your mind?

I'd personally skimp on the CPU cooler. I'd probably get, CM 212 plus/Evo, for about half the price of the AIO from them. Also, 16GB ram is close to nothing these days, but if you are strung on cash, you could get 1x8gb and later on down the road get a 2nd piece. I am relatively sure you won't be that much restricted. I am running 2x4gb Cruicial on my laptop and working with Aftereffects from time to time, apart from everything else I do. Honestly I've never even run close to runnning out of RAM, not even when rendering. I wouldn't mind a faster CPU though...I really wouldn't mind it. SSD is obligatory , and the mechanical drive, I am guessing will be for the Steam Library mainly, but if you already have a solution...nah for 60 bucks just get that 2 TB anyway. US baby, gotta love those cheap PC parts

AMD Definetely

 

[waspman3372]

Are you still planning on getting AMD CPU? or you have changed your mind?

I'd personally skimp on the CPU cooler. I'd probably get, CM 212 plus/Evo, for about half the price of the AIO from them. Also, 16GB ram is close to nothing these days, but if you are strung on cash, you could get 1x8gb and later on down the road get a 2nd piece. I am relatively sure you won't be that much restricted. I am running 2x4gb Cruicial on my laptop and working with Aftereffects from time to time, apart from everything else I do. Honestly I've never even run close to runnning out of RAM, not even when rendering. I wouldn't mind a faster CPU though...I really wouldn't mind it. SSD is obligatory , and the mechanical drive, I am guessing will be for the Steam Library mainly, but if you already have a solution...nah for 60 bucks just get that 2 TB anyway. US baby, gotta love those cheap PC parts

Looking back now $1,000 was just a number I threw out there. This will be my main computer for everyday use and Steam gameplay. Using a laptop isn't cutting it. Still would like to use this case which I will order in 2 more days. So what all parts would you put in here to build this computer if it was you? Do I necessarily need a quad core processor?


http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/110-lexa-s-case.html

 

[Toothless]

You question a forum full of gamers about the CPU.. Can't blame you because we question eachother anyway.

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

AMD Definetely

Depending on which Amd Cpu you get you can get by with what was already said, a Hyper 212+/Evo in push pull config. The hyper 212 does a great job on them.

 

[RCoon]

AMD Definetely

You need to take a good hard look at your priorities. There's brand loyalty, but then there's this. Will an AMD CPU (the only viable one is the 8350) play games? Yes. On a $1000 dollar budget, should you go for the 8350 over an i5? No. Absolutely not. Not unless you parse and compress files all day. The intel has an edge in processor based games, and performs similarly in GPU orientated games, but the overall gains are much more abundant with an i5. The 8350 would work, but you'd be gimping yourself if you ever played a single core orientated game, or even just a bad port.

The fact you're looking for blue components as a priority instead of looking for good quality top end components above all else worries me. You're going to end up building an average PC out of aesthetics and an illogical personal preference, instead of a top end PC that might not look so pretty when the side of the case is off but perform and last longer.

I'm not here to hate on AMD, but in the processor market unless you're on a super tight budget where AMD hold ground (which you are not), there is no reason to buy an AMD CPU over an Intel in the $800+ bracket. They make good GPU's for the high end users, but I cannot truthfully recommend an AMD CPU on your budget.

 

[krusha03]

AMD Definetely

While i defended AMD in another thread and opened Pandora's box with @xfia that was a rig for $400 not $1000. I said this earlier in one of my posts and here are other members saying the same. While getting an AMD will work, intel will be better seeing as you have the budget and purchasing an FX cpu will make little sense. Look at my rig if you think i am a intel / nvidia fanboy. I have AMD CPU and GPU because it was the best I could get given the budget I had at hand

You need to take a good hard look at your priorities. There's brand loyalty, but then there's this. Will an AMD CPU (the only viable one is the 8350) play games? Yes. On a $1000 dollar budget, should you go for the 8350 over an i5? No. Absolutely not. Not unless you parse and compress files all day. The intel has an edge in processor based games, and performs similarly in GPU orientated games, but the overall gains are much more abundant with an i5. The 8350 would work, but you'd be gimping yourself if you every played a single core orientated game, or even just a bad port.

The fact you're looking for blue components as a priority instead of looking for good quality top end components above all else worries me. You're going to end up building an average PC out of aesthetics and and illogical personal preference, instead of a top end PC that might not look so pretty when the side of the case is off but perform and last longer.

I'm not here to hate on AMD, but in the processor market unless you're on a super tight budget where AMD hold ground (which you are not), there is no reason to buy an AMD CPU over an Intel in the $800+ bracket. They make good GPU's for the high end users, but I cannot truthfully recommend an AMD CPU on your budget.

 

[xfia]

grrr haha lga 1150 ftw for small and large budgets. you could have got a G or i3 and had the ability to upgrade to the best gaming cpu's but your stuck with nothing to upgrade to with i3 level performance. am3+ for a gaming build is likely to cost you more money in the long run.. guess you could look at it as you get left with a good htpc.

 

[krusha03]

grrr haha lga 1150 ftw for small and large budgets. you could have got a G or i3 and had the ability to upgrade to the best gaming cpu's but your stuck with nothing to upgrade to with i3 level performance. am3+ for a gaming build is likely to cost you more money in the long run.. guess you could look at it as you get left with a good htpc.

Let's not start this again please

 

[R-T-B]

I too would recommend an intel build in this price bracket. It's not that there is a real issue with the AMD choice, it's just there is so much more benefit with the intel one.

AMD on the other hand does have a good GPU out right now with the R9 series. Not in energy efficiency but they are priced pretty competitively right now if you look in the right places.

 

[ozorian]

Ok so far I know I want Blue neon fans. Haven't found the right Mid tower case yet. Here's 2 items I have found so far. Not sure why Ebay is cheaper than say Newegg.

NEW 750W Gaming 140MM Blue LED Fan Guard Grill Silent ATX Power Supply PSU 12V...$37.49...Would've preferred a Dual Blue Led Fan for this.

USB Red/Pink/Blue LED Backlit Gaming...$30.99....Gaming mouse and Keyboard $30.99.

In doing some research they say the case should be decided on last. True?

Also I like the Radeon HIS video cards as I've had good luck with my 1st one.
http://www.newegg.com/Desktop-Graphics-Cards/BrandSubCat/ID-2058-48.

What should I be looking at when it comes to Vid cards from a practical standpoint. The more memory the better? Quietness obviously. ddr???The higher the better.

Still looking for a Cool case to match all this up with. Idea, Pics please. Thanks all.

Wasp

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($175.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120V 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-G55 SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($108.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Fury Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($60.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($131.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card ($328.99 @ Directron)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($73.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1029.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-18 20:19 EST-0500

this is my suggestion....
i believe that i5 4690k is pretty much for a 1000$ budget pc!!(u are not going to overclock anyway...)
also that 16gb are really useless(in my opinion always)
u can add some extra ram in the future 8gb are enough for at least one year more.
i prefer to invest that money(include from cpu cooler too),as u going to build a gaming pc
at VGA, a faster ssd and a better mobo with sli ready for maybe future upgrade!
i also trade that xfx psu with this amazing EVGA 650w fully modular just because it also contains semi sleeve cables with just 55$(this is sick..).

 

[PLAfiller]

Looking back now $1,000 was just a number I threw out there. This will be my main computer for everyday use and Steam gameplay. Using a laptop isn't cutting it. Still would like to use this case which I will order in 2 more days. So what all parts would you put in here to build this computer if it was you? Do I necessarily need a quad core processor?


http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/110-lexa-s-case.html

I am at work now, but tonight I will post my suggestion, although you are one day away from ordering your case. Have in mind the people that posted have very solid suggestions and they know about PCs a lot more than I do.

CASE: I get it, that you want the NZXT Lexa S case, I get why (adds some bling factor for home/LAN parties) and I am not going to argue in favour of other cases. Though there are cheaper and better ventilated cases out there (CM Elite 430/Thermaltake Vesa H23, etc.). I guess if you are going to look at it all day long for 3 years in a row, it's better to enjoy it from the start.

About whether the CPU should be quad, from my humble experience- the more the better. I am always on a budget and if I could reasonably skimp on motherboard and GPU to get a faster CPU, I'd always do that. Because GPU's are easy to find, even second hand and it depends a lot what games you play. If it's only LoL or SC2, you don't need top of the line stuff.

 

[ne6togadno]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/94JLHx

 

[waspman3372]

Ok 1st question tonight. Do I get this one???

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PJ5QD4I/?tag=tec06d-20

or this one.....

http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/110-lexa-s-case.html

 

[waspman3372]

2nd question.... This setup.......

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/94JLHx

or this one and why..

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU:Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($175.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler:Cooler Master Seidon 120V 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard:MSI Z97-G55 SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($108.99 @ Newegg)
Memory:Kingston Fury Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($60.99 @ Amazon)
Storage:Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($131.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage:Hitachi Ultrastar 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card:Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card ($328.99 @ Directron)
Case:NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($73.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply:EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1029.81

 

[rruff]

i5. Faster and lower power consumption. Go for a 4690k.
Crucial 256g SSD for ~$90. Good, cheap, big enough.
8GB ram is enough and easy to upgrade to 16GB.
Video. Best bang for buck is the R9 290. Look for a well reviewed model with good cooling. ~$230.
PSU. 650W+ from this list: http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/faq-recommended-power-supplies

Look for good deals. I don't have time to do the shopping right now, and prices change daily. I'd suggest accumulating stuff over a period of 2-3 weeks, then check everything out asap.

 

[R-T-B]

i5. Faster and lower power consumption. Go for a 4690k.
Crucial 256g SSD for ~$90. Good, cheap, big enough.
8GB ram is enough and easy to upgrade to 16GB.
Video. Best bang for buck is the R9 290. Look for a well reviewed model with good cooling. ~$230.
PSU. 650W+ from this list: http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/faq-recommended-power-supplies

Look for good deals. I don't have time to do the shopping right now, and prices change daily. I'd suggest accumulating stuff over a period of 2-3 weeks, then check everything out asap.

This. The crucial SSDS are also crazy reliable for the money, and perform good enough.

I have a PSU from that list (Rosewill Fortress 750W) in the FS forum as mentioned earlier. It's platinum rated, really good, and only $60 shipped.. It's nonmodular though and you may not like that. Just highlighting it.

As for this:

Ok 1st question tonight. Do I get this one???

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PJ5QD4I/?tag=tec06d-20

or this one.....

http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/110-lexa-s-case.html

I'd chose the nzxt only because I know them to be a pretty reputable group. I've never heard of the other case maker honestly, but maybe I am just out of it.