Buying new laptop

[FakeFire]

I want to buy a new laptop but i am little bit confused between these laptop and both of them same price , 2k screen and NVME . I wanna use it for gaming.

Acer helios neo 16: i9-13900HX , 32Gb DDR6 ram , RTX 4080 12Gb vram

Lenovo legion 7: i9-11980HX , 32Gb DDR5 ram , RTX 3080 16Gb vram.

If i wanna buy acer helios neo dose it has throttle issue or not?

 

[Bogus5]

Beware of laptops with powerful 13th generation HX series processors, for example, i9-13900HX, i9-13950HX, i9-13980HX, as they require very good cooling, something that manufacturers often do not provide.
Pay attention to MSI gaming laptops, as they have the best value for money.

 

[FakeFire]

Sorry for late reply. I know about these processors. I am ok with them. MSI laptop it's a little bit expensive in my country.
What about the throttle? Cause i see many videos on YouTube according the processors some of them showed a good temperature and some of them bad.

 

[P4-630]

I wanna use it for gaming.

Get a desktop PC with good cooling, no CPU throttling, no issues with long gaming sessions.

 

[Hervon]

I own a Lenovo Legion with a 13700hx that works great with throttleStop. I litely under volted it to reduce heat.

 

[FakeFire]

Get a desktop PC with good cooling, no CPU throttling, no issues with long gaming sessions.

I cannot buy a desktop because i am not setting in one place so it is difficult for me to move it.

I own a Lenovo Legion with a 13700hx that works great with throttleStop. I litely under volted it to reduce heat.

I will take that

 

[Hervon]

Take a look at this thread. Might help:

newbie questions on legion 5 pro i7

I purchased a legion 5 pro intel Core i7 13th Gen 13700HX 1.5GHz Processor; NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 8GB GDDR6; 32GB DDR5-4800 RAM a few days ago and while playing bg3 my CPU reached 100 degrees. Someone suggested I install throttlestop I have "undervolt protection" disabled and "legion...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Bogus5]

I own a Lenovo Legion with a 13700hx that works great with throttleStop. I litely under volted it to reduce heat.

ThrottleStop doesn't actually lower the CPU temperature by lowering the voltage, instead it causes an increase in performance at the same temperatures, or higher, as before the TS was applied.
The CPU temperature is lowered by using smaller multipliers than the default, but this action lowers the performance of the chip.

You can also juggle the processor's power limits to lower the temperature, but this action, too, reduces the power of the chip.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
13900hx is a good amount of unneeded heat for a gaming lappy
I looked briefly for a 13700hx with a 4080 and came up with donuts so there must be a conspiracy or something or my searchfu is bad lol

 

[A&P211]

Beware of laptops with powerful 13th generation HX series processors, for example, i9-13900HX, i9-13950HX, i9-13980HX, as they require very good cooling, something that manufacturers often do not provide.
Pay attention to MSI gaming laptops, as they have the best value for money.

No they dont, stay away from the lower end MSI laptops, they have screen hinge design issues. They are known to brake within 6-12 months. MSI doesnt provide the best value, I find Lenovo usually provides that. MSI laptop in the mid to lower tier tend to to have the worst cooling in the industry.

Sorry for late reply. I know about these processors. I am ok with them. MSI laptop it's a little bit expensive in my country.
What about the throttle? Cause i see many videos on YouTube according the processors some of them showed a good temperature and some of them bad.

Whats your budget and what country are you in?

 

[career]

MSI laptop in the mid to lower tier tend to to have the worst cooling in the industry.

Recently heard an opinion someone said, there is a global trend of all manufacturers regarding their "mid to lower tier". Nowadays they just not quite capable to maintain quality we used to in this segment.

 

[FakeFire]

Whats your budget and what country are you in?

My budget $2600 . I am in Oman near Dubai

 

[Bogus5]

I base my opinions about MSI hardware on experience, especially since I still use the MSI GL65 9SD laptop and have no criticism of it, while the new ASUS laptop, is basically a failure, given the software and customer service.
The MSI Raider GE78 HX 13V has great specs and good reviews, and all in all, I now regret not buying it.

My budget $2600 . I am in Oman near Dubai

If you live in a warm climate, the best choice would be a hybrid on a tongfang chassis with both air and water cooling (your choice).

https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDLaptops/comments/himoym

 

[unclewebb]

The MSI Raider GE78 HX 13V has great specs

MSI shows that the CPU can be limited to only 75W. Hopefully that does not cause the CPU to throttle too much during game play. An HX CPU needs more like 175W to maintain full CPU speed if the cooling system and voltage regulators are capable of that.

https://www.msi.com/Laptop/Raider-GE78-HX-13VX

 

[Bogus5]

It's hard to say what power limits MSI has set in the BIOS for this CPU, but on the i7-9750H MSI has set 200 watts, or "unlimited."
They know gaming hardware.

 

[A&P211]

MSI shows that the CPU can be limited to only 75W. Hopefully that does not cause the CPU to throttle too much during game play. An HX CPU needs more like 175W to maintain full CPU speed if the cooling system and voltage regulators are capable of that.

https://www.msi.com/Laptop/Raider-GE78-HX-13VX

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The 75w limit is if the GPU is also being used at the same time. 75w limit rating is actually pretty high among gaming laptops, the usually limit that I see is around 60-65w.

It's hard to say what power limits MSI has set in the BIOS for this CPU, but on the i7-9750H MSI has set 200 watts, or "unlimited."
They know gaming hardware.

In the GE model, the 9750h will top out at about 71-73w.

 

[Bogus5]

In the GE model, the 9750h will top out at about 71-73w.

In the GL65 9SD laptop model, MSI has set power limits: PL1-200 W and PL2-200 W, and this laptop is equipped with an i7-9750H processor.

 

[A&P211]

In the GL65 9SD laptop model, MSI has set power limits: PL1-200 W and PL2-200 W, and this laptop is equipped with an i7-9750H processor.

There is a difference between top power levels and how much can the laptop thermally top out at. I highly doubt it that the GL will top out at 200w much less 73-75ww like the GE75 that I had. The GL model most likely will top at out 45w and/or has a single fan or crap cooling.

 

[Bogus5]

There is a difference between top power levels and how much can the laptop thermally top out at. I highly doubt it that the GL will top out at 200w much less 73-75ww like the GE75 that I had. The GL model most likely will top at out 45w and/or has a single fan or crap cooling.

It's not so bad, and the 200-watt limit means in practice that "there are no limits"

 

[A&P211]

It's not so bad, and the 200-watt limit means in practice that "there are no limits"

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You are being shocked about 20w with that model. When I had the MSI with that processor, I got higher wattage, 20w higher. I was running 4.3ghz with a slight overclock at the same temps.
You can go into the advanced Bios and do a slight overclock with the bclk. All MSI laptops have advanced bios.
holding down l-alt, then pressing r-ctrl, r-shift, then F2.

 

[Bogus5]

You are being shocked about 20w with that model. When I had the MSI with that processor, I got higher wattage, 20w higher. I was running 4.3ghz with a slight overclock at the same temps.
You can go into the advanced Bios and do a slight overclock with the bclk. All MSI laptops have advanced bios.
holding down l-alt, then pressing r-ctrl, r-shift, then F2.

The number of options intimidates, but I will tinker there at the earliest opportunity.
Thanks for the info.

@A&P211​

In the BIOS system of Asus laptops, also there is a hidden advanced menu, or is there rather nothing to count on ?
In the past, the advanced options in the BIOS were revealed by pressing CTRL+F1, but that's the distant past.

 

[A&P211]

The number of options intimidates, but I will tinker there at the earliest opportunity.
Thanks for the info.

@A&P211​

In the BIOS system of Asus laptops, also there is a hidden advanced menu, or is there rather nothing to count on ?
In the past, the advanced options in the BIOS were revealed by pressing CTRL+F1, but that's the distant past.

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Where you able to get more wattage out of the processor? I see 61w.

The number of options intimidates, but I will tinker there at the earliest opportunity.
Thanks for the info.

@A&P211​

In the BIOS system of Asus laptops, also there is a hidden advanced menu, or is there rather nothing to count on ?
In the past, the advanced options in the BIOS were revealed by pressing CTRL+F1, but that's the distant past.

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I tried the CTRL+F1, it doesnt work.

 

[Bogus5]

Where you able to get more wattage out of the processor? I see 61w.

I know you can, but before I do a bigger OC, I need to replace the paste on the CPU, because it heats up unfortunately.