Buying ram this any good?

[Darren]

1.how long does it take ebuyer to send an item out?

It depends, you can pay slightly more if you want next day, next two/three/four days, or weekend delivery. Otherwise they do a free super saver delivery service for orders over £49, if the item is ready for dispatch they upgrade it to next day or a faster service. However with it being a Friday they will not process the order over the weekend with supersaver delivery, it would most likely arrive Tuesday or Wednesday, Thursday latest.

2.what are there return policies like if an item is faulty?

You have 30 day no argument money back guarantee if its faulty, they'll even arrange to pick up the item on a day of your choosing for free and replace the item or give you a full refund. However if the item is working but you've changed your mind they'll still refund you without argument within 30 day's but you'll have to send the product to them.

I actually RMA'd my old 9600 GT with eBuyer after a year of ownership, they tested it and found it faulty and gave me a faster video card of the same value (ATI 4830) for free. This was a year later!

3.if faulty how long till they send a replacement?

If its faulty, they'll test it and send you another one, takes about week. However you're still within 30-day's so you could technically still request a refund and buy another product.

p.s gonna get this http://www.ebuyer.com/product/149202 next day delivery

Looks good, if you buy two pairs, 8 GBs worth its free delivery. Otherwise its 0.99p for 3 day delivery or saver delivery.


Edit:

In addition to eBuyers return policy you get manufacturers warranty with components, I believe OCZ give you a "Lifetime Warranty" upon purchase.

 

[Steve-007UK]

cheers darren, 8 gig is way to much for my needs at the moment, i personly can't see myself needing 8 gig till well into next year. i dont realy play the most demanding games like crysis or crysis warhead. farcry 2 is more my thing and runs ok atm.

I'm just gonna get 4 gig of the ocz gold and pay the extra £6 or what ever it is so it will be here tomoz. and yup ocz offer a lifetime warranty so i guess when i get it i have to register it with ocz.

well i went ahead and placed my order ram should be here sometime tomoz and i already have a buyer for my old ram so all is good.

thanks again to everyone for the help and comments

 

[Steve-007UK]

well my ram is here and installed but can only seem to run it at 800mhz cpuz reports it as DDR2 PC6400 but i have PC8500 1066mhz lol, i tryed to manuly set everything to the right settings but pc just keeps reseting not sur if its just not compatable or if my psu is not strong enough now

 

[Darren]

well my ram is here and installed but can only seem to run it at 800mhz cpuz reports it as DDR2 PC6400 but i have PC8500 1066mhz lol, i tryed to manuly set everything to the right settings but pc just keeps reseting not sur if its just not compatable or if my psu is not strong enough now

Normal. Its OCZ ram it always does that, you have to manually select PC8500/1066 MHz in the bios with the correct voltage selection. Its compatible, OCZ hand test every stick and garantee compatibility due to it being premium sticks.

I think you need a voltage of around 2.1-2.2, but double check.

Remember if you've got an overclock on the FSB of the processor it sometimes nudges the "memory bus" on the ram as well. So although you may have 1066 MHz selected in the bios in reality its operating at a lot higher. (to compensate leave the memory bus @ 800 MHz check CPU-Z and you'll see that its really running at 1066 MHz or near it due to the FSB oc)

Download CPU-Z as it will tell you accruately what the ram bus is really @ taking into consideration of the FSB overclock.

 

[Steve-007UK]

CPU@2333mhz stock / FSB@333stock

RAM set manuly to 1066mhz / voltage 2.1v

when set like this the pc just restarts itself 3 times then finaly lets me into bios then tells me there was a problem due to voltage change or overclocking.

seems to run fine @800mhz 1.8 volts.

CPU-Z reports ram as DDR2 PC-6400 1.8 volts 400mhz

 

[Darren]

CPU@2333mhz stock / FSB@333stock

RAM set manuly to 1066mhz / voltage 2.1v

when set like this the pc just restarts itself 3 times then finaly lets me into bios then tells me there was a problem due to voltage change or overclocking.

seems to run fine @800mhz 1.8 volts.

CPU-Z reports ram as DDR2 PC-6400 1.8 volts 400mhz

Post some screen shots of CPUZ

 

[Steve-007UK]

Right i tryed 1 stick still no joy changed memeory slots around same thing it will only boot at 800mhz odd thing is when i look on ocz website the produst number is slighty diffrent and when i serch the produsct number on ocz site it comes up with nothing hmm,

i like the ram tho just would be nice to work out why it wont run at 1066mhz

with the bios that came with my mobo version F9 it suports DDR2 1333mhz or higher with an overclock and im sure at that speed you would need a lot more volts so it just don't make any sense why this stuff wont work right at the moment. still thinking its my weak PSU.

 

[Darren]

Indeed, it would appear that your memory is running @ 400 MHz DDR (800 MHz). Although his is normal for OCZ sticks, even my current sticks detect as PC5300 I can still manually increase it above and beyond PC6400 in the bios. I was once to worried that got the wrong sticks, but when I visited OCZ's website they clearly state that they do it deliberately.

In your case I think you've have not got enough voltage through it. The spec says "2.1 V" but I wouldn't be afraid of putting 2.2v or even more through it to see if its stable then decrease the voltage slowly.

Edit:

Right i tryed 1 stick still no joy changed memeory slots around same thing it will only boot at 800mhz

It would always boot initially @ 800 Mhz, because the ram is support 1066Mhz and lower. I believe that OCZ do not want to risk people with older motherboards that only support a maximum of 800 MHz being unable to run it with the initial bus of 1066 MHz.

 

[Steve-007UK]

i wish i could take pics of my bios but i dont have a cam im woundering if i might even need some more volts to the northbridge but im not sure witch setting it is in bios (as in not sure what its called) don't supose you have any ideas?

hmm just had a quick read on the net and it seems i might need more volts to the NB, now from what i can make out my NB is set to 1.100 volt on auto so should i try to increase this to maybe 1.150 or.1200?.

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V..........
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V..........
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V...........
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............



thanks again for all the help darren

 

[Darren]

i wish i could take pics of my bios but i dont have a cam im woundering if i might even need some more volts to the northbridge but im not sure witch setting it is in bios (as in not sure what its called) don't supose you have any ideas?

hmm just had a quick read on the net and it seems i might need more volts to the NB, now from what i can make out my NB is set to 1.100 volt on auto so should i try to increase this to maybe 1.150 or.1200?.

thanks again for all the help darren

I think your northbridge is fine.


I'm not sure if you're read the customer comment on eBuyer. He more or less confirm what I said, you have to manually configure it, as well as the voltage sometimes the timings are detected incorrectly so double check that the timings are accurate too.

But when using 1066 MHz ram with an AM2/AM2+ board and Phenom CPU you need to remember a few things.

1: When you first run the ram it will report back as 800 MHz ram in the bios and the DDR2 voltage will be around 1.8 to 1.95 volts. This needs to be change to 2.1 volts before you start changing any other setting.

2: You will need to set the ram to 1066 MHz mode in your bios or again it will come up as 800 MHz ram.

3: Some motherboards will get the timings wrong and you PC will crash or get BSOD. If you get this problem then go to the OCZ forum h**p://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52622 Post your problem and some one will get back to you ASAP. I had a problem and they got back to me a few hours with new timings which fixed my problems.

These were the settings I had to change to get my ram to work at the correct speed with out crashing or getting BSOD:

CAS set to 5, TRCD set to 6, TRP set to 6, TRAS set to 18 and all the Trfc's 0 - 3 set to 195ns and all other settings left on AUTO.

Now my system is running sweet.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/149202/show_product_reviews


Here is OCZ's website with your rams specification for timings and voltages.
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_8500_gold_edition_4gb_dual_channel

Edit:

hmm just had a quick read on the net and it seems i might need more volts to the NB, now from what i can make out my NB is set to 1.100 volt on auto so should i try to increase this to maybe 1.150 or.1200?.

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V..........
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V..........
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V...........
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............



thanks again for all the help darren

If you are sure its your NB, I wouldn't be scared to put 1.200v through it, if its stable gradually reduce it.

 

[JrRacinFan]

No offense to you Darren, but it looks like ebuyer sent him the wrong item. The 1066 sticks should have an EPP.

 

[Darren]

What is the abbreviation for an EPP.

I'm certain that they are correct.

I was trying to read the model type and number in CPU-Z but the image quality is too bad and the writing to small to make out. lol


Edit:

OCZ2G10662G.

Don't be scared to up your NB voltage. It helps stable out many things.

Yeah, I misread. that stinks though. I wonder why OCZ doesnt include an EPP (Enhanced Performance Profile) in the SPD data.

The reason why I'm certain its the correct sticks is because most "new" OCZ sticks do this, if you look at the spec sheet of some of their recent sticks they claim to downclock them deliberately. I'll post a link to my sticks in a bit showing that its been down clocked to PC5300 spec despite it being officially rated for PC6400.

 

[JrRacinFan]

OCZ2G10662G.

Don't be scared to up your NB voltage. It helps stable out many things.

Yeah, I misread. that stinks though. I wonder why OCZ doesnt include an EPP (Enhanced Performance Profile) in the SPD data.

 

[Steve-007UK]

Module Name OCZ Gold XTC OCZ2G10662G this is from everest.

cpu-z says OCZ2G10662G

on the ram sticks it says OCZ2G10664GK

 

[Darren]

Edit:

Module Name OCZ Gold XTC OCZ2G10662G this is from everest and cpu-z

on the ram sticks it says OCZ2G10664GK

Oh, then if the models are not consistant then you've definitely got the wrong sticks, it would appear. However OCZ's website acknowledges them as the "same" stick. So I believe its the same stick but the model was changed or updated, type in either model number in OCZ's search engine and you'll arrive at the same sticks.


I doubled checked OCZ's website the "OCZ2G10662G" does not exist, which means that CPU-Z is probably detecting the wrong model number. If the sticker says "OCZ2G10664GK" then I'd go by that.

Regardless, even the OCZ2G10664GK is rated @ 1066 MHz, so I still believe its downclocked deliberately as OCZ often do.

 

[Gregsm]

I'm searching ram for my new system with 955 and GA-MA770T-UD3P.
Trying to find cheap (~$100) 2x2 kit, to work as pc3-10666 at lowest latency, which seems cas 6, depends on voltage.
According to comments, the top performers seems are crucial, g.skill and mushkin. I have limited availability in my country, and I don't wanna mess with shipping if not necessary.
So I found this g.skill kit for $100 (on newegg, but 2x1GB).
Specs are ~1333mhz 7-7-7-18 1.6 volt. Can I count that they will work at 6-6-6-18 at higher voltage? Considering some i7 x3 kits rated pc-12800 cl 6 at 1.65 somehow
And these g.skill also say in spec

Specification
Main Board intel
System Desktop
System Type DDR3
M/B Chipset Intel X48,
Intel P45,
Intel X38,
Intel P35,
nVidia n7xx I (For Intel series)

Does it matter?

 

[Darren]

I doubled checked OCZ's website the "OCZ2G10662G" does not exist, which means that CPU-Z is probably detecting the wrong model number. If the sticker says "OCZ2G10664GK" then I'd go by that.

Edit:

According to comments, the top performers seems are crucial, g.skill and mushkin. I have limited availability in my country, and I don't wanna mess with shipping if not necessary.
So I found this g.skill kit for $100 (on newegg, but 2x1GB).
Specs are ~1333mhz 7-7-7-18 1.6 volt. Can I count that they will work at 6-6-6-18 at higher voltage? Considering some i7 x3 kits rated pc-12800 cl 6 at 1.65 somehow
And these g.skill also say in spec


Does it matter?

I'd trust OCZ, Crucial, Corsair, and Kingston. From what I hear in the states G.Skills is also reliable, but its not a well known brand in the UK. As far as timings go, typically you'd be able to reduce it slightly but performance will not make any difference going from 7-7-7-18 to 6-6-6-18, I'd almost say that you are wasting your time. However if performance is key you'd be better off buying DDR3 at a higher bus of 1600 MHz or 2000 Mhz.

 

[Steve-007UK]

im gonna try flash to an older bios as i dont need 1333mhz suport as i don't intend to go any faster than 1066mhz, i tryed setting everything manualy but the pc just resets on post then goes back to the last setting that worked 800mhz ram speed anyway brb again.

 

[Gregsm]

I just wasting my time based on this test. Overall the 6-6-6-18 @ 1066mhz give 0.1 more fps than 7-7-7-18 @ 1333
So I'm looking cas 6 @ 1333 mhz

 

[Darren]

Gregsm, I hope this helps explain it better,


This is my memory, its the "OCZ DDR2 PC2-6400 Vista Upgrade 2GB Module/4GB Kit" model number "OCZ2VU8004GK".

Here you can see the specification on OCZ website where it mentions the deliberate down clock, the picture illustrates the specific area i'm talking about, its in the attachment.

 

[Gregsm]

Gregsm, I hope this helps explain it better,


This is my memory, its the "OCZ DDR2 PC2-6400 Vista Upgrade 2GB Module/4GB Kit" model number "OCZ2VU8004GK".

Here you can see the specification on OCZ website where it mentions the deliberate down clock, the picture illustrates the specific area i'm talking about, its in the attachment.

Sorry, but I don't see the point... You talking about that you need manually to set it at rated specs? I figured it out with my own reapers
I'm asking if having so much voltage headroom from 1.6 up to 1.9, can I hope to reduce the timings with higher voltage?

 

[Steve-007UK]

I think i need to send this stuff back seems my mobo can't run this ram at 1066 in 2gig sticks but might run in 1 gig sticks, and the pc keeps locking up with both sticks now so at the moment im running on one stick with the latest bios installed again. dunno what else to do now apart from send it back and maybe get 4x1gig sticks.

right back with both sticks running no lockups as of yet so ill see how it goes maybe ill stick with this ram and get another motherboard and build this one into a second pc lol.

well still been messing and no joy but a few things diffrent happened.

now when i try and set the ram to 1066mhz the pc just bleeps then restarts so i looked up the bleep code and it says power error so im realy starting to think my PSU is just not good enough so gonna buy a new PSU next week if work is good

 

[Sir_Real]

I carnt really see your problem ? Why you jumping to the conclusion its the ram making your pc restart? You prob not got enough cpu core voltage to run that cpu with a 1066fsb. I have the same ocz 1066 gold i run it at 2.1 volt.

Also even if you carnt get it stable at 1066fsb then just leave the fsb around 1000, set the multiplier higher & bang the core speed up insted.

A cpu will run at a higher core speed if you keep the fsb down.

 

[Steve-007UK]

Untill late lastnight i could not get the pc to even boot with the ram set at 1066mhz its proper speed, and as for my cpu its defualt FSB is 1333mhz, if you had checked the hole thread out you would know im not messing with my FSB to get my ram to 1066 as i have setting to change it without changing the cpu and well its a no go.

now after some messing with diffrent bios versions i had some look setting the ram to 800mhz with 5 5 5 15 timings i then droped the spd down to 667mhz then clocked cpu to 2800mhz using a 400mhz FSB not the default 333mhz and pc been working all night so i say the ram is dodgy or my motherboard just dont suport it in 2gig sticks or my PSU is to weak.

when cpu is at default and ram set to 1066mhz all volts set right and timings pc wont boot at all now it just bleeps lots and its supose to een a power error.

still messing got ram upto 889 ish mhz now

 

[Steve-007UK]

well after hours and hours of messing im starting to see a few difrrent and hopefully good results.

Now before i go into detail let me explain again how my system is setup.

Before i installed my new ram i made sure bios was set to fail safe settings.
i then took old ram out and put new ram in (pc was fully powered down unpluged any left over power drained) grounded myself on metal side panel.

Booted up the pc only for it to just restart 2 to 3 times before it finaly posted.

set volts/timings to the right settings and ram to its normal speed of 1066mhz saved settings and exited bios.

pc restarts over and over again untill it decides to post.

after a few trys i decide to try an older bios version but this seemed to make things worse.

now late into lastnight i updated bios back to version F9 (latest bios) and things started to ack diffrently.

when ever i set ram to 1066mhz the pc will now bleep loads, lots of small bleeps and according to my book this meens power error.
but the odd thing is i have now managed to run a few settings that wouldent work before.

at this moment while posting my cpu is set dodgy almost 400mhz FSB but with a 6x multi but this has allowed me to get my ram to 950mhz but i also had to pump 1.3v into my NB not sure how far people would go on this but i do see some ppl saying 1.4. anyway another setting i managed was FSB400mhz x7 multi CPU@2800mhz with ram at 800mhz 5/5/5/15 timings 2.1volt.

im now going to mess some more but i would like to know from other what the max is they would pump into the NB as at the mement this seems to stablise things a little.

well i have used all my knolage of pc's and looked around the net and i am stuck at either FSB 400mhz = 2800mhz cpu speed.
800mhz ram speed with 5/5/5/15 timings, or FSB 392ish with multi of 6 = 2370ish mhz cpu speed.
950mhz ram speed with timings of 5/6/6/18

so my plan is to get a new PSU next week and test again but untill then im going to keep everything at stock and ram at 800mhz.

if that fails im going to just buy a new motherboard that suports my ram and build this one into a cheapo gaming rig.