Cheapish GPU for wife's system

[Vya Domus]

6700XT

 

[Kapone33]

Doesn't matter if I have used one or not (you really need to stop with this argument), they are bad value for money products as they offer no practical benefit when compared to the RX 7600 or regular 8 GB 4060 Ti. The 4060 Ti is faster regardless, the regular 4060 sometimes wins, sometimes loses vs. the 7600/XT. Higher VRAM makes no difference whatsoever for this product tier.

Is the 6600 a bad card? For the money, not really, it's okay. Not great, but it's okay. It's the current "budget king" for a reason. It's a product beneath my needs and wants, so I wouldn't buy it. Doesn't mean it's bad, just that it's not for me.

HUB really with AMD. Someone that uses words like terrible and destroyed to describe 6% difference in performance? I am not saying it is a 7700XT or anything like that and I understand that some distributors base their GPU pricing on VRAM as well. Of course even that card is more than half less than a 4070. It used to be in the community that 6600s for 1080P and 6700XTs for 1440P seemed academic. With 7000 some of the community use things like the 7900Xt should have been called the 7800XT when those cards are so far apart and the actual 7800Xt is faster than the 6800xt too. I do like debating with you but using HUB for me is just wrong. Is he not the same channel that bashed 9000 CPUS only to issue a retraction a week later? I trust Level 1 way more than HUB.

All I can say about the 7600XT was that I bought one for mining and it was great. When I f'ed up my 7900XT I used it while I waited for the replacement. In Games like TWWH3 or Rogue Trader you felt the difference. In Racing Games like LMU or AMS2 the framerates were not as high but the smoothness was still there. Just like how the 6750XT is that much better than a 6700XT but priced stupidly. Of course the elephant in the room is that all Nvidia cards are almost double or triple what the competing AMD card costs so 4070 nope. On TPU (I notice) we don't use price as a measure when comparing hardware anyway.

If you are a real budget Gamer you have Game Pass or Humble Choice and there are so many Games that are not a part of the narrative. As an example SpaceBourne 2 is what Starfield wants to be but does not have even 5% of the player base of that Game. The narrative is powerful but the truth is always there if you look for it.

It's Friday so I am just waiting for thje wife to come home so I can take Mother In law to get some fresh fish to fry. After that I am going to play the snot out of Space Marine 2 with my cousin and Nephew. After that I might do an online race in LMU to earn the right to drive Hypercars online or play City Skylines 2, Rogue Trader, Battlefield Gothic 1 or 2 or maybe even Sleeping Dogs. See I am a Gamer and was an arcade head from the time I was in Grade 6. I Game for myself and not the narrative. Since I bought a 6500XT and realized that there were real QOL differences that were not mentioned in all reviews that made those cards (At the time) great value. What do I mean? 4K 120Hz HDMI ports. Just like how if you are building an APU based system using As Rock is academic as they are the only MB vendor that gives you 120hz support on the onboard HDMI port. 4K 120Hz TVs are still the cheapest way to get into big screens as a 55" 4K 120Hz VRR TV is less than a 55" 4k 144 hz monitor. We have gotten into the realm of 240hz 4K bu that only applies to E sports, Racing Games and Rocket League.

Yep it's Friday and the Dabs have been flowing Milan are blowing Lecce away, the Euorpa league was that good. The game of the year so far is Lyon vs Marsielle that had 16 minutes of highlights. That is about 3 times what regular Youtube highlights are. The bottom feeders won in IMSA and came 2nd in WEC (BMW) and Anthony Joshua got destroyed in front of 96000 at Wembley.

The truth is that modern CPUs, GPUs and storage are that good. We can now play 4K and that has been the goal since we moved to LED. BTW Happy Friday. I am typing on my barnd new Redgragon Shiva that finally replaced my G510 as I still like to have G keys and Audio buttons.

 

[Dr. Dro]

HUB really with AMD. Someone that uses words like terrible and destroyed to describe 6% difference in performance?

Price makes or breaks products, especially at the low end like this

 

[mkppo]

best would be a vanilla 6800 if you can find one for a good price. 6750xt also seems decent.

if nvidia, 3060ti at the least, vanilla 3060 is pretty trash.

 

[Kapone33]

Price makes or breaks products, especially at the low end like this

Not anymore the narrative is more powerful in influencing purchases. When the 6500Xt launched it was less than half what the 6600 cost. It was also fine for 720P or 1080P Gaming at the time. It was trounced by the media for not having an encoder. Not one review mentioned 4K 120 Hz support. Even in today's world people will compare products that are hugely separated in price. We need to get back to attractive pricing like when NVME SSDs were nice and inexpensive about 8 months ago. That does not mean that people will buy the cheapest SSD. That is why the Kingston Nv2 was such a success and out sold drives from Team that were cheaper. Of course there are still drives that no one talks about like the Patriot Burst 2 TB on Amazon that is still $109 Canadian and about the cheapest SSD on the market at that density.

 

[Macro Device]

It was also fine for 720P or 1080P Gaming at the time.

10 years before its release, yeah. It's a GPU that cost hundreds of dollars and has performance of RX 470, a 6 year old (now 8) low-mid range GPU that only cost more than a cup'o'coffee due to mining craze. RX 6600 wasn't much more expensive but offered more than twice the speed. RX 5500 XT was both faster, better in older systems, and cheaper than 6500 XT, too.

 

[Kapone33]

10 years before its release, yeah. It's a GPU that cost hundreds of dollars and has performance of RX 470, a 6 year old (now 8) low-mid range GPU that only cost more than a cup'o'coffee due to mining craze. RX 6600 wasn't much more expensive but offered more than twice the speed. RX 5500 XT was both faster, better in older systems, and cheaper than 6500 XT, too.

When the 6500Xt was launched I got the Gigabyte Gaming OC model for $229. The Asus Dual 6600 was $649 at the same time. The Gigabyte card was $699. Those prices are Canadain and before13% tax.

 

[Macro Device]

I got the Gigabyte Gaming OC model for $229.

Statistical error. Those usually went for more than 250 USD... till that bubble imploded.

 

[Kapone33]

Statistical error. Those usually went for more than 250 USD... till that bubble imploded.

During COVID?

 

[Eskimonster]

Buy a used 1080, if youre cheap get a 1070.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Not anymore the narrative is more powerful in influencing purchases. When the 6500Xt launched it was less than half what the 6600 cost. It was also fine for 720P or 1080P Gaming at the time. It was trounced by the media for not having an encoder. Not one review mentioned 4K 120 Hz support. Even in today's world people will compare products that are hugely separated in price. We need to get back to attractive pricing like when NVME SSDs were nice and inexpensive about 8 months ago. That does not mean that people will buy the cheapest SSD. That is why the Kingston Nv2 was such a success and out sold drives from Team that were cheaper. Of course there are still drives that no one talks about like the Patriot Burst 2 TB on Amazon that is still $109 Canadian and about the cheapest SSD on the market at that density.

Not really, the 6500 XT is again another case of not being worth it due to cost, particularly when you bring up its limitatons. Despite the 4K 120 support, it lacks the performance to handle anything at that resolution beyond the Windows desktop, the fact that it only has two display-outs due to a GPU limitation in Navi 24 itself, severe lack of media handling capabilities (aforementioned lack of encoding support) and a relatively high cost made it largely undesirable. The GTX 1650 doesn't have any of these problems.

There are some pretty nice looking 6500 XT models, including one I would actually want for an older machine (Sapphire ITX in white), but the cost just isn't worth it, it's too expensive for what it offers and I'll have the 1070 Ti to spare for the Core 2 Duo machine anyway once I retire the 4080 next year.

 

[Kapone33]

Not really, the 6500 XT is again another case of not being worth it due to cost, particularly when you bring up its limitatons. Despite the 4K 120 support, it lacks the performance to handle anything at that resolution beyond the Windows desktop, the fact that it only has two display-outs due to a GPU limitation in Navi 24 itself, severe lack of media handling capabilities (aforementioned lack of encoding support) and a relatively high cost made it largely undesirable. The GTX 1650 doesn't have any of these problems.

There are some pretty nice looking 6500 XT models, including one I would actually want for an older machine (Sapphire ITX in white), but the cost just isn't worth it, it's too expensive for what it offers and I'll have the 1070 Ti to spare for the Core 2 Duo machine anyway once I retire the 4080 next year.

In a HTPC system connected to a 4K 120Hz TV with VRR playing at 1080P? it was just fine, Freesync is that good? I have a Gaming desktop to play Games that require more horsepower. Currently it serves as a display for one of my mining rigs and since it idles at 2 watts it is great as that.

 

[Speedyblupi]

Budget is a little as possible (£250 is max I want to spend depending on where GPU comes from) as I intend to upgrade my GPU sometime after Christmas & transfer the 3080ti (I get 180fps+ in D4 at 5120x1440p) that is in my system into hers (hence why don’t want to spend much at all at this point)

If it's only going to be a short-term thing, an RX 6650 XT or Arc A770 8GB is probably your best new option with a £250 budget. They're less efficient than an RTX 4060, but that won't matter much if you won't keep it for very long, and it's about the same speed and a decent bit cheaper. The Arc A770 usually isn't very popular among gamers because its performance is very inconsistent between games, but it's pretty good in Diablo IV.
If you're buying second hand, then something like an RX 6700 XT or RTX 3070 would be slightly faster and you would likely be able to get one for about £250 or slightly less.

 

[Redwoodz]

6650 XT, anything more than that is not needed.

 

[arbiter]

If its only diablo 4, then pretty much any of the low end dedicated cards will work 4060, even one the intel arc cards probably be more then good enough as well. Heck i was playing it using a GTX1080 and had good fps.

 

[droopyRO]

CeX but since youre in the UK

Do you pay taxes in the UK, or is that price shown, all that you pay from your wallet ? Thanks.
/offtopic

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Do you pay taxes in the UK, or is that price shown, all that you pay from your wallet ? Thanks.
/offtopic

Prices include VAT which is around 17% (margin scheme)

VAT would normally be at 20 or 21% for brand new items.

 

[tommesfps]

Hypothetically, for the love of my life and the mother of my children I believe I would buy no less than RTX 4070 Super to get decent frames at 4K in Diablo 4 max settings including upscaling and RT and maybe frame gen.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

Seriously folks: Stop tacking on your own requirements and stick with the OPs.

To the OP: You say this is a stopgap. If you/she really can't hang tight, just get a 3050 8G and call it a day.

 

[Lost_Troll]

Budget is a little as possible (£250 is max I want to spend depending on where GPU comes from) as I intend to upgrade my GPU sometime after Christmas & transfer the 3080ti (I get 180fps+ in D4 at 5120x1440p) that is in my system into hers (hence why don’t want to spend much at all at this point)

I would look on Facebook Market Place and see what is used for the price you want to pay. You should be able to get a used 3060 12Gb or 3060Ti for 175 to 200 used. 3070 will run around 250+, with 3080's at 300+ after you haggle with the seller. Though, before you buy, ask them to run it in front of you so you know it works. I would also ask if it was used for mining and if it has a modded BIOS.

There are some good buys on Market Place, you just have to know what your look for and what they are worth.

 

[eidairaman1]

I would look on Facebook Market Place and see what is used for the price you want to pay. You should be able to get a used 3060 12Gb or 3060Ti for 175 to 200 used. 3070 will run around 250+, with 3080's at 300+ after you haggle with the seller. Though, before you buy, ask them to run it in front of you so you know it works. I would also ask if it was used for mining and if it has a modded BIOS.

There are some good buys on Market Place, you just have to know what your look for and what they are worth.

No buyer protection on fb market.

 

[dgianstefani]

No buyer protection on fb market.

That's why it's nice and cheap

 

[Lost_Troll]

No buyer protection on fb market.

Don't really need since the sellers FB account is linked to the item being sold. You can also see how old their account is and how active it is, which will tell you that it could be a scam.

My self, I have sold stuff on FB marketplace and bought stuff as well without issue, like trucks/cars, PC parts and tools without issue.

 

[Speedyblupi]

If you/she really can't hang tight, just get a 3050 8G and call it a day.

In the UK an RX 6600 is usually slightly cheaper than an RTX 3050 8GB. There's no reason to spend more for a slower GPU unless you really need CUDA support.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

In the UK an RX 6600 is usually slightly cheaper than an RTX 3050 8GB. There's no reason to spend more for a slower GPU unless you really need CUDA support.

Sure, but OP specified Nvidia, so I stuck with that.