CPU Comparison Article

[qubit]

The other day I saw a CPU article that showed relative gaming benchmark performance across multiple Intel CPU's and I wanted to refer to it to help me decide what to buy. I just can't remember which site it was. The graphs had lots of data points on them for each processor and I seem to remember that the graphs had a black background, but that's about all. Unfortunately, looking through my bookmarks of hardware sites, I can't find this review.

Anyone know the one I'm thinking of?

 

[Sonido]

The other day I saw a CPU article that showed relative gaming benchmark performance across multiple Intel CPU's and I wanted to refer to it to help me decide what to buy. I just can't remember which site it was. The graphs had lots of data points on them for each processor and I seem to remember that the graphs had a black background, but that's about all. Unfortunately, looking through my bookmarks of hardware sites, I can't find this review.

Anyone know the one I'm thinking of?

Most likely... It was www.TomsHardware.com

It's a great little tech site. I would love to be part of a site like that. I would love to do benchies. The first person I would hire would be Fit.

 

[qubit]

I thought so too, but I couldn't find it there when I looked in the CPU section.

 

[n-ster]

tell us what your choices are, we will be happy to help and use other benchmarks to prove our words

 

[Melvis]

I lost all respect for Toms hardware after i saw his CPU tests on youtube :shadedshu

 

[n-ster]

link please? qubit don't be shy to ask our advice... we are probably better then benchmarks actually

 

[Melvis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgOmMAasqto

Can anyone see whats wrong with this video? ^

 

[n-ster]

LOLOLOL... well they had 3 yrs to come back yes there are flaws with tomshardware (ex. they were testing a cpu cooler, but they installed it backwards, so obviously it sucked ) but they are so obvious errors that anyone could figure it out you've got to admit 90% of there reviews are awesome

 

[lemonadesoda]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgOmMAasqto

Wow. Great video! In fact, that is exactly the experience I had with AMD back in the 90's and why I never bought AMD again. I had a very very expensive K6-3 which I imported from Singapore. It was properly mounted and installed etc. It was a phenominal upgrade, and i was very very impressed. it smashed benchmarks and played games very well. Until of course, a week later, the thing burnt up.

No overclocking. No overvolting. Stock cooler. Never again.

 

[Melvis]

LOLOLOL... well they had 3 yrs to come back yes there are flaws with tomshardware (ex. they were testing a cpu cooler, but they installed it backwards, so obviously it sucked ) but they are so obvious errors that anyone could figure it out you've got to admit 90% of there reviews are awesome

Haha whats wrong with this video is that you never see the temps of the intel when he puts the thermal tester on it, you only see it with the AMD chip, and secondly the comp will shut down before that even happens, the BIOS will shut off the whole system before they would start to cook.

So after i saw this video i lost any respect for Toms hardware and i think he is bi est against AMD, i remember yrs ago seeing his benchmarks (intel and AMD) and the AMD systems always had slow RAM installed Its not there anymore tho.

 

[n-ster]

see? there still some truth to it... what if your fan fails for 3 secs? your cpu burns up?

 

[lemonadesoda]

Haha whats wrong with this video is that you never see the temps of the intel when he puts the thermal tester on it, you only see it with the AMD chip, and secondly the comp will shut down before that even happens, the BIOS will shut off the whole system before they would start to cook.

Actually, that's not true. IIRC there wasnt thermal control built into BIOS until later CPU generations. It all had to be done by the CPU. And AMD CPU's didnt do this. (Then). Now is different. At the time AMD did truly deserve criticism. Things are a lot better now. But, once burnt, twice shy. I moved to Intel and didnt go back.

 

[n-ster]

oh common... you a amd hater now?

 

[Melvis]

Actually, that's not true. IIRC there wasnt thermal control built into BIOS until later CPU generations. It all had to be done by the CPU. And AMD CPU's didnt do this. (Then). Now is different.

Yea ok i just read what lemonadesoda said so yea must of been the even older CPU's of AMD, i know that the XP's even the one i have will shut off in the BIOS before that would happen, and its a very old mobo, about yr 2000-2001, so i guess it must be talking about the 90's CPU's then, thats fair enough. Still doesn't answer why he only shows the thermal temp of AMD chips only?

 

[lemonadesoda]

If you run the youtube video in "higher quality + stereo", http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgOmMAasqto&fmt=18 then you can just make out that the temperature of the first CPU test reads 28°C on the scanner.

 

[n-ster]

we see it, just that its blurry... concentrate on it and you can see it... I saw the 1st temp on the 1st try!

 

[Melvis]

If you run the youtube video in "higher quality + stereo", http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgOmMAasqto&fmt=18 then you can just make out that the temperature of the first CPU test reads 28°C on the scanner.

I don't buy it, you can very clearly see the temps of the AMD CPU's but you cant see the temps of the intels at all really, so why is it hard to read when every test of the AMD CPU is clear to read? Just bad timing with the camera? i don't think so.

 

[n-ster]

its to put more emphasis on it....

 

[Melvis]

its to put more emphasis on it....

Yea it does, to make people think it =/ I think its wrong personally.

Ive been looking up to see what date the Athlon 1400 came out and i see one review on it and the date on it was June 7th 2001, so its a K7 CPU. Unless he was using some really crappy mobo that doesn't support the auto turn off/shut down? When did motherboards come with the Auto shut off when the CPU got to hot? because this test was done in the 2000 and above.

 

[n-ster]

dude, wtv happened in the past, tom's hardware reviews TODAY are one of the best

 

[Melvis]

dude, wtv happened in the past, tom's hardware reviews TODAY are one of the best

I agree the tests today are ALOT better from toms hardware, but with what ive seen in the past just keeps popping up in my mind you know?

Now when i look up reviews i get a broad range and then get the average from it, i don't just rely on one place now.

 

[n-ster]

lol... I do do like this --> look at TH, read comments (that's where all the flaws will be pointed out almost instantly )
--> find another source that is trusted and compare to see if it makes sense just in case, if it doesn't, I find another source to either bash TH or the other source... guess what? never bashed TH

 

[Melvis]

lol... I do do like this --> look at TH, read comments (that's where all the flaws will be pointed out almost instantly )
--> find another source that is trusted and compare to see if it makes sense just in case, if it doesn't, I find another source to either bash TH or the other source... guess what? never bashed TH

lol fair enough, i guess what ever works hey?

I will include TH in my broad range, he is just a % like the rest to me lol

 

[qubit]

Q8200 / Q8300

tell us what your choices are, we will be happy to help and use other benchmarks to prove our words

I'm looking to get a 45nm C2Quad. I don't have a huge amount of cash to spend, so I was thinking of the Q8200 or Q8300. I use my PC mainly for internet (duh!) and gaiming. I know that I could probably get a dual core CPU that might outperform it when overclocked, but I'd love to have a quaddie.

I love Abit motherboards and have bought several uGuru models over the years, but now they've given up on this market. I'd like to have the Abit IP35 Pro XE and I see that Overclockers UK have just got in some stock of these going for quite cheap. As they don't make them any more and I'm on a budget, it's now or never to buy it, I feel. My only concern (other than that Overclockers' customer service is terrible) is that the mobo might have some annoying BIOS bugs that will now never be fixed. The latest BIOS is dated 17 June 2008, which isn't really encouraging. However, my current Abit AN8 Ultra motherboard has a BIOS dated 2005 and it runs fine, so I might be fretting over nothing.

If I had the cash, I'd buy a fancy DFI mobo with all the goodies, but they're quite pricey.

Any help here would be greatly appreciated.

link please? qubit don't be shy to ask our advice... we are probably better then benchmarks actually

I can't give you a link, because I can't remember where I saw it! lol Finding it is the subject of my thread.

 

[n-ster]

the link please was to malvin

as for the "gaming", tell us what you play now and how long you want to play with this rig and on what settings...

you are right, a c2d would outperform a c2q for gaming... but I would go c2q anyway too, especially that multi-threaded games are coming!

Could you please specify a budget and tell us WHAT you want to upgrade/buy?