CPU upgrade

[Estaric]

Hi im looking at upgrading my CPU cuz my i5 4460 just doesnt pack a punch anymore. I looked at tomshardware best gaming cpu post. I was arguing with myself about either getting a intel Xeon 1231 V3 or i5 4690k. Hyperthreading vs Overclocking, looking to do a bit of streaming and or game recording

 

[peche]

i5 4690k

best option ... gaming oriented chip, also well know for great OC possibilities and thermal resistance, will fit perfectly on your Z97 board,
how about the prices? prices between i5 and xeon? also is no place for an i7?

Regards,

 

[JayCan73]

I think you would see a much higher performance increase if you invested the money you intend to spend on a better gpu than on a new cpu. A 4460 is far less of a bottleneck than your gpu is. Upgrading your cpu will only gain you 2 or 3 fps in your current system, while the same investment on a gpu can easily more than double your fps. (could have sworn your system specs said you had a 750ti when I posted)

 

[Estaric]

I think you would see a much higher performance increase if you invested the money you intend to spend on a better gpu than on a new cpu. A 4460 is far less of a bottleneck than your gpu is. Upgrading your cpu will only gain you 2 or 3 fps in your current system, while the same investment on a gpu can easily more than double your fps.

i dont really feel as though my brand new gtx 950 gaming xtreme is a bottleneck

best option ... gaming oriented chip, also well know for great OC possibilities and thermal resistance, will fit perfectly on your Z97 board,
how about the prices? prices between i5 and xeon? also is no place for an i7?

Regards,

they are both $250 and i was looking to save the extra hundred that why i didnt wanna get an i7

 

[peche]

I think you would see a much higher performance increase if you invested the money you intend to spend on a better gpu than on a new cpu. A 4460 is far less of a bottleneck than your gpu is. Upgrading your cpu will only gain you 2 or 3 fps in your current system, while the same investment on a gpu can easily more than double your fps.

well this seems legit...
a GTX 970 can show you a important improvement on your gaming experience.... for sure

 

[Estaric]

well this seems legit...
a GTX 970 can show you a important improvement on your gaming experience.... for sure

yea i understand that but i dont need that fps boost when my gpu is higher than the recommended for everything i play.

 

[peche]

so what are you looking for exactly ?
i always think o better gaming experience such as better effects, ultra settings and of course moar and moar FPS on every game,
the CPU you have is excellent no doubts on that, also the ones you want are better but the reason about the upgrade?

 

[Bill_Bright]

If I already had an i5 and was not happy with it, I'd go with an i7.

 

[JayCan73]

weird, thought your profile listed a 750ti when I first posted. Anyway, what games are you playing and at what resolution, a lot of newer games might not run much higher than a stable 30fps on high settings on a 950, while games that don't use all cpu cores/threads will benefit from higher clock speeds. It all depends on what you are playing. Have you overclocked your gpu?

 

[peche]

weird, thought your profile listed a 750ti when I first posted.

well i saw the same... epic...

 

[Devon68]

Going from a i5 4460 to a intel Xeon 1231 V3 or i5 4690k does not make sense if you look at it from a price/performance stand point. But it's your money, your decision.

looking to do a bit of streaming and or game recording

I would try it on your current hardware and see if you even need a upgrade.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

i dont really feel as though my brand new gtx 950 gaming xtreme is a bottleneck

it is a hell of a lot more of a bottleneck than you 4460 is.

 

[PCGamerDR]

Hi im looking at upgrading my CPU cuz my i5 4460 just doesnt pack a punch anymore. I looked at tomshardware best gaming cpu post. I was arguing with myself about either getting a intel Xeon 1231 V3 or i5 4690k. Hyperthreading vs Overclocking, looking to do a bit of streaming and or game recording

Your CPU is better than mine and it handles my r9 290 better than i thought it would, i'd have to say the other guys have a point and a better GPU would be better overall. I've streamed some PoE, LoL and Warframe with no issues.

 

[Jborg]

Agreed here, the GTX 950 is the issue.

The i5 is more than sufficient for gaming, hell even a Pentium works well for gaming for 1080p.

I swapped TO an i5 4690k as an upgrade (Was swapping from AMD though)

I don't think its practical to upgrade the CPU here, you probably wont even notice a difference with it in games.

 

[oinkypig]

if you already own x97 its far better to stick with if you look at the higher end 4790k as an optional upgrade which is on par with the new skylake platform.

 

[Jborg]

The 4690k is essentially first generation core i7 single core performance with overclock headroom, given greater overclock potential than the i7 920 which locked down a 4.5ghz mac oc on air and watercooling. Multicore benchmarks show a 4.5 ghz i7 920 cne 11.5 @ 7.64pts and
4.5ghz 4690k cne @ 7.6 pts as equals
unless you plan on buying a decent cooler.... I would get the 4770k or 4790k to see a noticeable upgrade in performance.

What is the point of an i7 with a GTX 950? I mean its your money, you can do whatever you want with it.

A GTX 950 with an i7 just sounds skewed. Why not keep your i5 and get a GTX 970? That will give a noteworthy FPS upgrade, along with more eye candy.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

If I already had an i5 and was not happy with it, I'd go with an i7.

If i already had an i5 and was not happy with it. Id just overclock it (if it was a K model)

 

[oinkypig]

Surprisingly..... Not much overclocking potential of your 4460 and even Overclocking will barely keep up with anything greater than a gtx 670. The i7 4690k is good up to the gtx 970. No need to Go buy another "quad core" chip If you want it for only for gaming. The only real reason to upgrade to x97 was to have a 4770k. The 4690k is exactly the same performance clock per clock as the i5 4460. The only difference is how much that chip can overclock..which is a lot more. The 4770k/4790k is an entirely different quad core chip and based on those same clock rates; what you gain is another 30% improvement in single/multi core benchmarks over the 4690k.

 

[peche]

If i already had an i5 and was not happy with it. Id just overclock it (if it was a K model)

what you have done ?

Spoiler: you startled the witch...

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Id just ebay a cheap 2500k or 2700k and overclock the balls off it

 

[oinkypig]

 

[Estaric]

Okay i found an i7 2600k for $180, get a new motherboard that will put me around $280, What if i just get another gtx 950 and sli.

well i saw the same... epic...

I just bought the gtx 950 because i was upset that when i bought my gtx 750 ti the gtx 950 came out like a week or two later

 

[RCoon]

What if i just get another gtx 950 and sli

Terrible idea. Always always buy the most powerful single GPU you can afford, and avoid multi-GPU setups as far as you can unless you need the horsepower (In my case, I'm on 4K). Some games simply can't use multiple GPUs in a lot of cases.

What games are you playing? We can't really say whether a GPU or CPU is the bottleneck without knowing what kinda games you're playing.

 

[Estaric]

Terrible idea. Always always buy the most powerful single GPU you can afford, and avoid multi-GPU setups as far as you can unless you need the horsepower (In my case, I'm on 4K). Some games simply can't use multiple GPUs in a lot of cases.

What games are you playing? We can't really say whether a GPU or CPU is the bottleneck without knowing what kinda of games you're playing.

I wanna record/stream Dark souls 1, Dark Souls 2 Scholar of the First Sin, The Forest, Maybe Dark Souls 3 when it comes out, Saints Row Games, Fallout Series not sure about 4 yet. The reason i got the GTX 950 is cuz i dont play that demanding of games and i was told recording/streaming will always benefit from the extra threads. Im willing to return the 950 but so far i havent encountered any issues with it.

 

[RCoon]

I wanna record/stream Dark souls 1, Dark Souls 2 Scholar of the First Sin, The Forest, Maybe Dark Souls 3 when it comes out, Saints Row Games, Fallout Series not sure about 4 yet. The reason i got the GTX 950 is cuz i dont play that demanding of games and i was told recording/streaming will always benefit from the extra threads. Im willing to return the 950 but so far i havent encountered any issues with it.

Dark Souls games are GPU orientated. They can run on DualCore CPUs without a hitch. Most of your games are GPU orientated titles, so a better GPU will translate to better FPS

Streaming/Recording will do two things:
A) Murder a couple of CPU cores
B) Murder the HDD you're recording to.
B i) Recording should always be done to a HDD not in use by the game you're playing. Most recorders have their games/OS on a separate drive to the one they are recording a movie to. This is because of access speeds.

Performance will largely be as poor or as good depending on your record/stream settings. I personally use OBS because I can see live FPS and bitrate outputs while I'm recording, and it will warn me about CPU usage or dropped frames. It also has a wide range of settings for low and high quality recording settings.

Basically you're playing demanding GPU games on a low-mid range GPU, and trying to record on a mid range CPU. I notice in your system specs you don't have any storage besides your SSD, so I bet you're running your OS/running a game/recording to the same storage drive - this will severely murder your game FPS and recording FPS.