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Dark Souls games are GPU orientated. They can run on DualCore CPUs without a hitch. Most of your games are GPU orientated titles, so a better GPU will translate to better FPS

Streaming/Recording will do two things:
A) Murder a couple of CPU cores
B) Murder the HDD you're recording to.
B i) Recording should always be done to a HDD not in use by the game you're playing. Most recorders have their games/OS on a separate drive to the one they are recording a movie to. This is because of access speeds.

Performance will largely be as poor or as good depending on your record/stream settings. I personally use OBS because I can see live FPS and bitrate outputs while I'm recording, and it will warn me about CPU usage or dropped frames. It also has a wide range of settings for low and high quality recording settings.

Basically you're playing demanding GPU games on a low-mid range GPU, and trying to record on a mid range CPU. I notice in your system specs you don't have any storage besides your SSD, so I bet you're running your OS/running a game/recording to the same storage drive - this will severely murder your game FPS and recording FPS.
How big should i increase my budget if im looking to record/stream and thank you for all the help you seem to know alot more than a majority of the people iv talked too.
 
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How big should i increase my budget if im looking to record/stream and thank you for all the help you seem to know alot more than a majority of the people iv talked too.

If I was in you situation, this is what I'd be looking at- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131672&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker, LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID= or http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MSI-970G4O&c=CJ

both options offer the same performance, so it's up to your preference of AMD or Nvidia
 
How big should i increase my budget if im looking to record/stream and thank you for all the help you seem to know alot more than a majority of the people iv talked too.

Well first we could look at storage and recording settings. First and foremost I'd look into separating storage. Use your SSD for OS/Software, and then buy yourself a cheap secondary HDD for use as your recording drive. That will alleviate your issues to that end.

You might have already done this, I'm just looking at your system specs and assuming the 500GB SSD is your only drive. Let me know if you're using multiple drives, and then you can disregard my storage nuances.


As for general game/recording performance we can do many things. First, if you're not down for spending any money, lower your recording settings.
You can do this by lowering the bitrate to something around 3000-5000Kbps (this will reduce your CPU load)
[Leave audio recording quality at around 192-256Kbps, audio is best left alone at a high quality]
Reduce your recording resolution down to 720p instead of 1080p
Reduce your recording FPS down from 60FPS to 45 or 30
If you're using something like OBS you can reduce your AA from Lanczos 32 to half that or less.

Start off with low settings, test your recording quality and gameplay FPS while recording (just 30 seconds of gameplay will do) and then increase or decrease settings if you're happy/unhappy with your results.

If you want to spend dollah, then there's a few things that would help. For recording, an i7 is extremely useful, and allows us to record at 1080@60p with ludicrous bitrates of around 12000-15000Kbps. That's in an ideal world. With my i7 I can pretty much max out my recording settings and still play games without taking a performance hit.

In terms of GPU, I'd probably opt for a 290/GTX 970 for best 1080p results. I ran a 970 for a very long time, it handled a lot of titles on 4K but 1080p was a breeze.

It's all down to your budget and whats more important to you. Better recordings, or better gameplay FPS.
 
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^listen to him first and see if your current GPU can maintain acceptable performance during recording. GPU should be the last consideration in recording if your current GPU delivers acceptable performance without recording.
 
i guess ill just save up some cash build a actuall recording computer going off what i have learned and then use my current one as a mobile computer and just make more of a mobile game station. after i see how a gtx 950 does in recording
 
i guess ill just save up some cash build a actuall recording computer going off what i have learned and then use my current one as a mobile computer and just make more of a mobile game station. after i see how a gtx 950 does in recording

You have a very capable gaming machine. The only two aspects that may need changing is your CPU and perhaps GPU. Everything else is excellent, so I wouldn't go and build a whole new separate machine. You can always find second hand 1150 i7s online, and the GTX 970/290Xs aren't that expensive anymore.

Just found these. My old settings for recording on OBS with my i5.
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/t...-rig-for-1440p-streaming.202133/#post-3124054
 
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My recommendation is listening to what some of these people advise. As far as a CPU goes, the i5 4460 does pack a punch and you are likely to see little to no improvement by buying the i5 4690k except with over clocking and even then it will be a waste of money if you're using a GTX 950. Don't buy an i7 you will not really need it unless you're going to make use of the extra 4 threads, which I doubt you will. I can confirm your issue with games is the GTX 950. Its an efficient card of course however it isn't really a "gaming" card. It was marketed towards those who play RTS style games. Like DoTA, Warhammer, Diablo, etc. If you got a 970, and kept your current CPU, you will see a huge jump in performance. If you got a i7 2600k you would be losing performance per core/clock and losing features that has well has gained.
 
Terrible idea. Always always buy the most powerful single GPU you can afford, and avoid multi-GPU setups as far as you can unless you need the horsepower (In my case, I'm on 4K). Some games simply can't use multiple GPUs in a lot of cases.

What games are you playing? We can't really say whether a GPU or CPU is the bottleneck without knowing what kinda games you're playing.
thanks god for such a smart advise!

Well first we could look at storage and recording settings. First and foremost I'd look into separating storage. Use your SSD for OS/Software, and then buy yourself a cheap secondary HDD for use as your recording drive. That will alleviate your issues to that end.

You might have already done this, I'm just looking at your system specs and assuming the 500GB SSD is your only drive. Let me know if you're using multiple drives, and then you can disregard my storage nuances.


As for general game/recording performance we can do many things. First, if you're not down for spending any money, lower your recording settings.
You can do this by lowering the bitrate to something around 3000-5000Kbps (this will reduce your CPU load)
[Leave audio recording quality at around 192-256Kbps, audio is best left alone at a high quality]
Reduce your recording resolution down to 720p instead of 1080p
Reduce your recording FPS down from 60FPS to 45 or 30
If you're using something like OBS you can reduce your AA from Lanczos 32 to half that or less.

Start off with low settings, test your recording quality and gameplay FPS while recording (just 30 seconds of gameplay will do) and then increase or decrease settings if you're happy/unhappy with your results.

If you want to spend dollah, then there's a few things that would help. For recording, an i7 is extremely useful, and allows us to record at 1080@60p with ludicrous bitrates of around 12000-15000Kbps. That's in an ideal world. With my i7 I can pretty much max out my recording settings and still play games without taking a performance hit.

In terms of GPU, I'd probably opt for a 290/GTX 970 for best 1080p results. I ran a 970 for a very long time, it handled a lot of titles on 4K but 1080p was a breeze.

It's all down to your budget and whats more important to you. Better recordings, or better gameplay FPS.
this ! thanks good and @RCoon really ... best advise ever!

My recommendation is listening to what some of these people advise. As far as a CPU goes, the i5 4460 does pack a punch and you are likely to see little to no improvement by buying the i5 4690k except with over clocking and even then it will be a waste of money if you're using a GTX 950. Don't buy an i7 you will not really need it unless you're going to make use of the extra 4 threads, which I doubt you will. I can confirm your issue with games is the GTX 950. Its an efficient card of course however it isn't really a "gaming" card. It was marketed towards those who play RTS style games. Like DoTA, Warhammer, Diablo, etc. If you got a 970, and kept your current CPU, you will see a huge jump in performance. If you got a i7 2600k you would be losing performance per core/clock and losing features that has well has gained.
take in consideration that i7 can be gotten on some hot deals pretty cheap... so if there is the option for a cheap i7 1150 socket ... get it ... but just if is a real hot deal ...

Regards,
 
thanks god for such a smart advise!


this ! thanks good and @RCoon really ... best advise ever!


take in consideration that i7 can be gotten on some hot deals pretty cheap... so if there is the option for a cheap i7 1150 socket ... get it ... but just if is a real hot deal ...

Regards,
I haven't really seen any deals on i7s that would warrant the purchase over an i5 for anyone who wants the best for their dollar. New they are generally $100 in difference. For the right person, an i7 is almost invaluable. But for 70% of us, especially gamers, an i5 does enough
 
I haven't really seen any deals on i7s that would warrant the purchase over an i5 for anyone who wants the best for their dollar. New they are generally $100 in difference. For the right person, an i7 is almost invaluable. But for 70% of us, especially gamers, an i5 does enough
completely on the point!
i7s are insane processors ...
 
I think honestly depending where you got that gtx 950 see if you can get a refund, buy a gtx 970 g1 gaming prolly seeing your name. Then maybe next save for a 4790k if your still not capable of doing what you want.
 
I think honestly depending where you got that gtx 950 see if you can get a refund, buy a gtx 970 g1 gaming prolly seeing your name. Then maybe next save for a 4790k if your still not capable of doing what you want.
well im pretty sure that a simple i5 4670k will to the job, also there something that i dont understand... what is falling with the current 4460, specs for that processor shows a pretty capable processor....

turbo boosted processor @3.4 is enough for several games, apps, work and don't know what more, also OP has a hyper212EVO which is a excellent cooler that also allows a little OC on unlocked processors, PSU is front excellent quality, and also case and airflow nor temps could be a problem... so dont know what to say ... i know people that is gaming on 2nd and 3rd Generation locked i3's and i5s without any problems, using less quality specs compared to OP's listed ones...
im just wondering if you have Win8.1X64 version ... that's all i could suspect... that you have x86 and having shitty problems....

Regards,
 
im mearly going off what i was told is needed for game streaming thats why i wanna upgrade
 
im mearly going off what i was told is needed for game streaming thats why i wanna upgrade
so you'd better listen to @RCoon advices... he is TPU gaming moderator, streamer, and plenty other things about gaming here!

Regards,
 
Would he really struggle say recording or streaming some of those older games listed with a gtx 950 rcoon? I mean isnt that same level as a 760 and I know of one streamer and recorder that uses a gtx 760 and it does fine.
 
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CPU wise he should have enough grunt, however it depends what settings he's intending to play/stream said games as a 950ti wont play the latest titles on high settings so this could be where the lag is and that's what most people seem to agree on...
 
CPU wise he should have enough grunt, however it depends what settings he's intending to play/stream said games as a 950ti wont play the latest titles on high settings so this could be where the lag is and that's what most people seem to agree on...
well obviously he is not intending to play any of the newest titles maxed out if he knowingly went out and bought a gtx 950
 
well obviously he is not intending to play any of the newest titles maxed out if he knowingly went out and bought a gtx 950

Has he stated what settings and resolution he's playing at?...

Whats obvious to you isn't necessarily obvious to the OP as he was on about SLI'ing the 950 he has..
 
Has he stated what settings and resolution he's playing at?...
no but he told what games he plans on playing and im pretty sure a gtx 950 isnt struggling with them
 
no but he told what games he plans on playing and im pretty sure a gtx 950 isnt struggling with them

So you think it's his i5 and going from non K to a K chip or i7 would fix this as the OP asked?
 
Has he stated what settings and resolution he's playing at?...

Whats obvious to you isn't necessarily obvious to the OP as he was on about SLI'ing the 950 he has..
Actually he isnt wrong i do run most my current games i play all maxed out at 60 fps and im not unwilling to turn the graphics down a bit.
 
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