Crysis_hardware Wish List

[Corrosion]

same stuff i have just add a r600. and maybe ram, and maybe a processor, and maybe ...

 

[Deleted member 24505]

i'm hoping mine will be fine as it is with chip at 3.5ghz,maybe just a dx10 upgrade to replace the 7900gs.

 

[Casheti]

Yeah I'd say all you need is new gfx card and you're maxed out.

 

[pt]

Where's the dual PCI-E??

why do you need them?

 

[Casheti]

For future use ^^

 

[Scavar]

Farcry ran like crap on my 9700Pro

I've beta tested over 70 games so I know all about un optimized codes and games breaking your PCs and stuff. The true argument though between nVidia and ATi is the samething as the argument between Intel and AMD. Conroe clearly kills everything AMD has out, and what is known about AMDs up coming stuff is questionable. 8800GTX is clearly the most powerful card out now, even though it has to run on EMULATED DX9.

I think I forgot my point....

 

[Casheti]

Really?? FarCry ran excellent on my GeForce 5200...

 

[pt]

For future use ^^

you will never use them anyway

 

[Scavar]

Really?? FarCry ran excellent on my GeForce 5200...

Actually I think it was my 9800pro, but it was probably my underclocked P4 1.8 that was the problem. Though what you actually helped my point with that, I dont remember anything about ATi cards running Farcry better then their equal nVidia

 

[SpoonMuffin]

google around for some benches, and forums reports, i have seen people with both sides cards run them side by side in tests and the ONLY thing nvidia offered back then that ati didnt was hdr, but hdr KILLED the perf so bad u had to rever to LOW RES to play with hdr on(6800gt@ultra=800x600 with hdr7 on for example)

 

[SpoonMuffin]

Actually I think it was my 9800pro, but it was probably my underclocked P4 1.8 that was the problem. Though what you actually helped my point with that, I dont remember anything about ATi cards running Farcry better then their equal nVidia

p4. 1.8gz......thats like an athlonclassic 1gz with pc133 in perf talk about hamstringing your 9700/9800 video card, thats like me litterly cutting ur hamstrings and then telling you to run to tacobell because i got the munchies

and about the comment somebody made about spending "alot" to play 1 game, well, reality is that you only have to spend alot if your still using old netburst or pre 64bit athlon chips, hell i would even bet my old 2300mhz barton system(x800xt pe) will beable to play the game, how well and at what res's is still unknown, but you can do a relitivly cheap upgrade and beable to play modern games no problem.

 

[Scavar]

Yeah after I posted that I did look around, hadn't noticed how well ATi had been out performing then. Now a days though, not including the 8800, other then like video/picture quality things seem to be closer. The 8800 still winning though. Without the r600 out, and the GTS down to 400$, I would still vote to buy a 8800 card, but thats just me I guess.

 

[Jdbody]

why should anyone spend a butt load of money to play 1 game?

Well thats a very good point so let me share how we consumers think.

New video card comes out, our current system runs flawlessly and in the back of our mind we know that we dont need to upgrade to squeeze out a feww more FPS...Yet the marketing, and the forums all entice you into realizing that you dont have the best out there and it bothers your sub-conscious....Some people in this case would go into denial and say that the new video card sux and you should wait 9 years for the next gen card.

Not a good choice...When you own something, you hope that it runs all things smoothly and you hate to wonder if your missing a better experience by not upgradeing your hardware.

It's usually called, "Hobby Addiction."

This is yours and my hobby, those who can afford to upgrade, and see that as being a satisfaction when they can run the latest software at a desired speed, feel satisfied like a baby with a rattle.


So are we upgradeing to run one game?.....No but we design our hardware expectaions on the next new app that demands sophisticated hardware combinations.

 

[SlipSlice]

Ahhmen....

hehe

 

[wazzledoozle]

Later this year ill probably be picking up a 8600GT or Ultra, and an Opteron 165. That should hold me over for a long while

 

[SpoonMuffin]

Yeah after I posted that I did look around, hadn't noticed how well ATi had been out performing then. Now a days though, not including the 8800, other then like video/picture quality things seem to be closer. The 8800 still winning though. Without the r600 out, and the GTS down to 400$, I would still vote to buy a 8800 card, but thats just me I guess.

400bucks is alot of scratch for most people to spend on a video card, honestly the 1950pro or 1900gt or 1900xt are a better value, i payed 278for my x1900xt 512mb, try farcry with hdr+aa on any nvidia card pre 8800, it wont work , you will get hdr OR aa not bouth.

feture wise the x1k cards are ahead, my buddy just got an x1650xt card 2 days ago and had me install it, to be short, the thing runs great, and hes getting better perf out of it then his 7800gs thats under RMA(its fan stoped, it cooked itself)
his plan was to use it as a temp card but now hes planing to sell the 7800gt they are sending him as replacment to his brother because hes liking 1280x1024(19in lcd) with this new card, sure its not a beast, but for the 138bucks he sepend its a great value!!!!

 

[Easy Rhino]

So are we upgradeing to run one game?.....No but we design our hardware expectaions on the next new app that demands sophisticated hardware combinations.

true, but the title of the post is 'crysis wishlist.' im assuming that the poster is willing to spend buttloads just to play this one game. if the title was 'upgrade wishlist' then i wouldnt have a problem. see the difference?

 

[Jdbody]

true, but the title of the post is 'crysis wishlist.' im assuming that the poster is willing to spend buttloads just to play this one game. if the title was 'upgrade wishlist' then i wouldnt have a problem. see the difference?

I see your point, I actually was the original poster of this thread and to clarify.

You can use one application such as 3dmark to evaluate wheter or not your system is a giant or not.

I use actual real games to determine whether or not my system runs well.

So in retrospect running a game like Crysis would tell me that if I have a system that can run that, than I have a system that doesnt need to be upgraded again for quite sometime.

Good days

 

[Scavar]

I guess I am just better off then a lot of people then, at least these days. I don't find 400$ a lot for an upgrade to video, 500$, 600$, yeah thats a little much for me. Still it isn't like Crysis is going to be the only DX10 game coming out, and according to most sources, even DX9 runs better under DX10. The 1950 isn't DX10. And when HDR and AA together was introduced, I didn't care (Though I do now)


I had a 1600xt I think it was before I had my 7800GT, and that thing was terrible, it was the reason I got a 7800GT, maybe I had a bad card I don't know. I haven't had an ATi card since my 9800Pro/9700Pro, and I still don't see a real reason too. And unless the R600 completely blows away the 8800, and I really don't think it will, then I still won't have a reason.

 

[JC316]

I am doing pretty good right now for Crysis. In my near future is going to be an AM2 or C2D and some extra ram.

 

[SpoonMuffin]

I guess I am just better off then a lot of people then, at least these days. I don't find 400$ a lot for an upgrade to video, 500$, 600$, yeah thats a little much for me. Still it isn't like Crysis is going to be the only DX10 game coming out, and according to most sources, even DX9 runs better under DX10. The 1950 isn't DX10. And when HDR and AA together was introduced, I didn't care (Though I do now)


I had a 1600xt I think it was before I had my 7800GT, and that thing was terrible, it was the reason I got a 7800GT, maybe I had a bad card I don't know. I haven't had an ATi card since my 9800Pro/9700Pro, and I still don't see a real reason too. And unless the R600 completely blows away the 8800, and I really don't think it will, then I still won't have a reason.

dx10 is not backword compatable with ANY older version, vista runs dx9L(longhorn) and dx10, dx9 dosnt run better on vista, do a clean 2k/xp/2k3 install and a clean vista install then test dx9 games on each, under a current system my exp is that at best it runs the same, at worst it runs a bit slower, but drivers are a problem with vista, since nobodys got RTM drivers ready yet

funny how nvidiots alwase say they didnt/dont care about aa+hdr till they get an 8800, not trying to be insulting but its a fact, seen people who spent the whole time since the x1k cards came out saying hdr+aa is useless and pointless, who now have 8800 cards and are all stoked about hdr+aa and how its the best thing in the world.......

i love my x1900xtx(about to flash toxic bios to it!!! i have tested both sides cards.

my video card histtory.

s3 virge3d(icky card) and a voodoo1 and pvr pcx2(matrox m3d powervr card)
voodoo rush card(2d card and voodoo card in one)
rendition verite 8mb+m3d+v1(great cards)
riva128+2xm3d+v1
tnt1
rage128 (horrid 2k drivers, its why i learned to HATE ati)
tnt2 ultra
geforce1
gf2gts
kyro2(great card)
gf4
fx5800ultra, wost card i ever owned, good/decent dx8 perf, HORRID dx9 perf, slower then a card 1/4 its price)
radeon 9600 256mb non-pro, replaced the fx5800ultra(aka dustbuster from hell) and out performed it in every way at 1/4 the price)
9800se 256bit(hard moded to pro)
6800gt, sold this card within about a month of buying it, nvidia couldnt seem to fix the driver problems with quility and perf, aa/af falloff neer center of the screen really bothered me so did the 5sec studder.
x800pro vivo>xt pe(flashed to true xt pe) still have this card, its faster then the 6800gt was overclocked to ultra, no driver buggs to speek of, just a great allaround card, still got it in my backup box.
x1900xt/xtx 512mb, got this after trying a buddys 7800gtx,7900gtx, and 7950gx2 cards at his house against his x1900 card and finding that i felt the quility was better on the 1900, also the aa+af issue was important to me, since nvidia couldnt do it.

i have also owned other 6 and 7 seirse cards but they came to me via trades and the like(got some at work from systems we replaced for people after they died also) they are "ok" but i would take my x800xt pe over a 7800gt anyday

also the fact is that ati's x1900 based cards(x1950/x1650xt) are more powerfull then their nvidia equivlants in newer games, and can also be used for folding and boost decoding(and can be used to boost encoding as well) of video data, again to me this is important, it shows the cards got a future, and when its not good enought to use for video anymore it can be moved to use as a PPU!!!!!

 

[JC316]

dx10 is not backword compatable with ANY older version, vista runs dx9L(longhorn) and dx10, dx9 dosnt run better on vista, do a clean 2k/xp/2k3 install and a clean vista install then test dx9 games on each, under a current system my exp is that at best it runs the same, at worst it runs a bit slower, but drivers are a problem with vista, since nobodys got RTM drivers ready yet

funny how nvidiots alwase say they didnt/dont care about aa+hdr till they get an 8800, not trying to be insulting but its a fact, seen people who spent the whole time since the x1k cards came out saying hdr+aa is useless and pointless, who now have 8800 cards and are all stoked about hdr+aa and how its the best thing in the world.......

i love my x1900xtx(about to flash toxic bios to it!!! i have tested both sides cards.

my video card histtory.

s3 virge3d(icky card) and a voodoo1 and pvr pcx2(matrox m3d powervr card)
voodoo rush card(2d card and voodoo card in one)
rendition verite 8mb+m3d+v1(great cards)
riva128+2xm3d+v1
tnt1
rage128 (horrid 2k drivers, its why i learned to HATE ati)
tnt2 ultra
geforce1
gf2gts
kyro2(great card)
gf4
fx5800ultra, wost card i ever owned, good/decent dx8 perf, HORRID dx9 perf, slower then a card 1/4 its price)
radeon 9600 256mb non-pro, replaced the fx5800ultra(aka dustbuster from hell) and out performed it in every way at 1/4 the price)
9800se 256bit(hard moded to pro)
6800gt, sold this card within about a month of buying it, nvidia couldnt seem to fix the driver problems with quility and perf, aa/af falloff neer center of the screen really bothered me so did the 5sec studder.
x800pro vivo>xt pe(flashed to true xt pe) still have this card, its faster then the 6800gt was overclocked to ultra, no driver buggs to speek of, just a great allaround card, still got it in my backup box.
x1900xt/xtx 512mb, got this after trying a buddys 7800gtx,7900gtx, and 7950gx2 cards at his house against his x1900 card and finding that i felt the quility was better on the 1900, also the aa+af issue was important to me, since nvidia couldnt do it.

i have also owned other 6 and 7 seirse cards but they came to me via trades and the like(got some at work from systems we replaced for people after they died also) they are "ok" but i would take my x800xt pe over a 7800gt anyday

also the fact is that ati's x1900 based cards(x1950/x1650xt) are more powerfull then their nvidia equivlants in newer games, and can also be used for folding and boost decoding(and can be used to boost encoding as well) of video data, again to me this is important, it shows the cards got a future, and when its not good enought to use for video anymore it can be moved to use as a PPU!!!!!

Damn, I thought I had alot of cards. We agree on the FX being crap. The FX 5900 is the worst card I ever owned

 

[SpoonMuffin]

5800ultra was only slitely worse in some ways(it was better in others, like glide wrapers could use some fetures the 5800 had that the 5900 removed)

they where all horrid cards just HORRID, every driver update lowered image quility to gain a littler perf, funny why every pc mag ends up regreting using the fx card in their ultimet pc's and recants saying they should have gone with the 9800 cards

 

[Easy Rhino]

I see your point, I actually was the original poster of this thread and to clarify.

You can use one application such as 3dmark to evaluate wheter or not your system is a giant or not.

I use actual real games to determine whether or not my system runs well.

So in retrospect running a game like Crysis would tell me that if I have a system that can run that, than I have a system that doesnt need to be upgraded again for quite sometime.

Good days

ah! that makes sense to me now.

 

[Easy Rhino]

if i were to upgrade right now to dx10 and play crysis with all the fun stuff it would cost about $1000. why you ask? well i would need the fx60 which would max out my sockey 939. and i would need the 8800gtx. or, 2 8800gts, depending on performance. i need that fx60 because my current dual core will slow down the damn graphics! but yea, if that 1000$ lets me play all dx10 games at a high res with good options on for the next 2 years then so be it.