[DISPROVED] Apparently one can use Freesync with nVidia cards ...

[John Naylor]

@John Naylor You can have either G-SYNC mode on, or ULMB, but not both together. Are you saying that they can run together?

BTW, my current monitor, the BenQ XL2720Z has a strobing backlight and no restrictions on refresh rate over which it will work, so it's actually better than ULMB. Using it at 144Hz is particularly awesome with such smooth and clear animation (where there are no dropped frames from the PC) and at 60Hz, gloriously migraine inducing!

This is the killer feature that I bought it for and will look for again in my next monitor.

No G-Sync / ULMB are mutually exclusive. BenQ and Asus provided G-Sync ready monitors that can provide MBR technology. I have the same panel technology in the Asus model on my deskr, using the toastystrobelight utility. And yes, I find the toastystrobelight utility great ... but that's cause everything I play on that 1080p screen is up over 80 fps. So at 1080p, it really doesn't matter as whether I use toasty or ULMB it's the same experience. However at 1440p, 2160p, that's not going to be an option so that's where the MBR tech falls short:

Below 60 fps: G-Sync / Freesync works significantly better than Motion Blur Reduction
Above 70 -75 Hz: MBR generally works better.
In between it's a tossup.

Once ya get to 1440p, a good % of the more popular games will be < 70 fps. And at 2160p, even more so .... and still even w/ the 2xxx series cards.

 

[qubit]

Reported this post to get the title in the OP changed by a mod, since i was unable to do it myself.

Ah shame, I thought it was too good to be true (the NVIDIA thing). It would have been massive, if true.

btw, if you need to edit a post, including your OP and thread title, just hit Report against the post and request it. The mods are pretty quick at granting that access.

No G-Sync / ULMB are mutually exclusive. BenQ and Asus provided G-Sync ready monitors that can provide MBR technology. I have the same panel technology in the Asus model on my deskr, using the toastystrobelight utility. And yes, I find the toastystrobelight utility great ... but that's cause everything I play on that 1080p screen is up over 80 fps. So at 1080p, it really doesn't matter as whether I use toasty or ULMB it's the same experience. However at 1440p, 2160p, that's not going to be an option so that's where the MBR tech falls short:

Below 60 fps: G-Sync / Freesync works significantly better than Motion Blur Reduction
Above 70 -75 Hz: MBR generally works better.
In between it's a tossup.

Once ya get to 1440p, a good % of the more popular games will be < 70 fps. And at 2160p, even more so .... and still even w/ the 2xxx series cards.

Oh no, you don't want a 60Hz strobe! It flashes like the old CRTs and in fact, is actually harder on the eyes, since the whole screen flashes at once, rather than a 60Hz raster scan.

I sometimes switch it on when playing Rainbow Six Siege with my friends online on the PS4 and always regret it afterwards, lol. Yes, no motion blur, but that damned flicker is a migraine inducer!

 

[Vayra86]

No G-Sync / ULMB are mutually exclusive. BenQ and Asus provided G-Sync ready monitors that can provide MBR technology. I have the same panel technology in the Asus model on my deskr, using the toastystrobelight utility. And yes, I find the toastystrobelight utility great ... but that's cause everything I play on that 1080p screen is up over 80 fps. So at 1080p, it really doesn't matter as whether I use toasty or ULMB it's the same experience. However at 1440p, 2160p, that's not going to be an option so that's where the MBR tech falls short:

Below 60 fps: G-Sync / Freesync works significantly better than Motion Blur Reduction
Above 70 -75 Hz: MBR generally works better.
In between it's a tossup.

Once ya get to 1440p, a good % of the more popular games will be < 70 fps. And at 2160p, even more so .... and still even w/ the 2xxx series cards.

Well, with reference to my sig, 1440p is already easily in the territory of high refresh capable even in newer titles and it doesn't need a 1080ti either. With some minor tweaks you can already get there on a 1080. 4K is a different beast, still. But monitors do last several GPU upgrades generally...

I would personally say that if you're in the top end of the performance stack anyway, strobing backlight should be a primary thing and adaptive refresh should be a distant second, if even that. Especially when it comes with a price increase over similar panels. Also my experience with strobe is that you really do want to be solid above 100 FPS or it will do more harm than good (tiring to look at).

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

I still think the title is misleading. The OP didnt do his research before starting the thread.

 

[HTC]

Ah shame, I thought it was too good to be true (the NVIDIA thing). It would have been massive, if true.

btw, if you need to edit a post, including your OP and thread title, just hit Report against the post and request it. The mods are pretty quick at granting that access.

I know: i just figured i'd do it this way since the post itself explained why the OP's title needed to be changed to reflect the update of the source.

I still think the title is misleading. The OP didnt do his research before starting the thread.

@ the time i posted, i hadn't seen this:



Notice this post's time and it's last edit time stamps. Assuming this is the local time, this post may have been posted AFTER i posted the OP, since i'm Portuguese and there are 5+hours difference between Portugal and USA. If it's 5 hours, then it's slightly before, otherwise it was after. Regardless, i missed it.

Also: do take note that the OP has the word "Apparently" in it so i definitely didn't present this as an absolute fact.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

its conditional that it works, doesnt mean its disproved.