Does anyone actually game on an AMD APU?

[silentbogo]

To be fair the AMD APU's are as fast as midrange GPU's considering that's the entire reason for this thread it is reasonably pertinent.

I only consider today's graphics cards, so more accurately: some Low-mid-range AMD GPUs and low-end NVidia GPUs only in comparison to high-end APUs.

Basically, an A10-7850K / 7870K contains an equivalent of R7 240, but through extensive overclocking can get quite close to R7 250.
A newer revision of GT730 (64-bit DDR5) is just slightly slower than R7 250 in most benchmarks (except some very specific synthetics) and is still considered a low-end videocard.

Cheaper APUs (A6/A8 7000-series) can only be compared to R5 230/240 in 3D graphics performance.

I haven't found that many comparative benchmarks, but here are some numbers from a review of A10-7870K:
http://www.overclockers.ua/cpu/amd-apu-godavari-a10-7870k/all/

I am not saying that APUs suck, all I'm saying is that modern low-end GPUs are also quite capable, otherwise there would be no reason to manufacture those (beyond upgrading old C2D rigs).

Also, the definition of low-end GPU is a bit blurred, since AMD and NVidia have a bit different approach to that classification.

 

[cdawall]

I would class the R7's as midrange, the GT730 is a tossup which way it goes.

 

[silentbogo]

There are also OEM versions of R5 240 and R5 340, which kinda also fall within the same performance range. Unfortunately at this moment there are only few R5 230's on the market worldwide. Where I'm from, those are not even available in most stores and can only be found as refurb. OEM units from Lenovo and Acer workstations (priced about the same as used R7 240).

 

[GoldenX]

The thing with the 230 is that it's a Terascale GPU (so no DX12/Vulkan).

 

[PCGamerDR]

i defended myself with my hd8670d oc'ed to 1169mhz and memory oc'ed to 2400mhz for about a year and a half before buying my r9 290, mostly played mobas and mmorpgs but i also played all assasins creed til blackflag, several battlefields at decent fps with a mixture of med to high settings.

 

[GoldenX]

My integrated HD4200 has 128MB of onboard DDR3 memory (so no ram steal), it still can play League of Legends and emulators decently on mid-low settings.

 

[Vayra86]

Um, well, I'm still delaying playing Witcher3 because I don't like how it works on my 660Ti (I can get steady 30-40fps at 1920x1200 with many things maxxed out, but it just doesn't feel right). So let's just say "can" is in the eye of the beholder.

I think that is a big amount of input lag you're feeling in TW3

 

[Liquid Cool]

In case anyone missed it...

AMD Refreshes FM2+ Lineup for APU and CPU

I've never used any of these desktop APU's, but I have had the mobile A10-5750m and it would play almost every game in my steam account(really fell flat on Alan Wake). Actually quite impressive for as cheap as I found the laptops I was using. HP Probook 455's...they repeatedly come up on ebay for $200 or less and they're easily upgradable. Probably for someone on a tight budget looking for best bang for the buck. I beat Fallout:NV on mine...it had no trouble holding 60fps.

I like AMD and I'll be looking at Zen very closely.

Best,

Liquid Cool

 

[Mussels]

If APU's can use the HBM as cache as well as iGPU VRAM, it would be insane. Imagine a CPU with 4GB L3/L4 cache.

 

[Tatty_Two]

It seems to me that despite warnings this thread continues to be derailed, once any topic loses it's focus and just turns into an exchange of insults or disagreements there is little point in it's existence so sadly I have had to delete some posts and close it down.

Please do start a new thread if anyone wants to discuss the recent refresh Liquid Cool mentioned earlier.